Jamie Oliver questions food poverty

[purpleronnie]

Meals on wheels has gone down hill lately .

The shite they send me you wouldn't give to a dog !

If it's so much cheaper to use fresh stuff , why don't those cvnts do it ?

Need to fix the brakes.

[Zingari]

Need to fix the brakes.

I  want that stuff that Ronnie Corbett takes out !

He could sit on my overstuffed armchair and tell me a few jokes while I eat my spotted dick. 

[ADK]

When I was in Spain I noticed that the supermarkets there sell a lot less crap food and mostly fresh ingredients.

 

Compare this with Britain where most of the aisles are full of processed food. 

 

We have a society that gorges on processed food. 

 

Places like Farmfoods sell some absolutely vile looking processed meals yet there's always obese women with their fat kids stuffing their trolleys with the stuff. 

 

I just can't imagine that scene in France or Spain for example.

[Captain...]

When I was in Spain I noticed that the supermarkets there sell a lot less crap food and mostly fresh ingredients.

 

Compare this with Britain where most of the aisles are full of processed food. 

 

We have a society that gorges on processed food. 

 

Places like Farmfoods sell some absolutely vile looking processed meals yet there's always obese women with their fat kids stuffing their trolleys with the stuff. 

 

I just can't imagine that scene in France or Spain for example.

 

My girlfriend was shocked by the amount of ready meals we have over here. In Spain it was brilliant, you could get a kilo of mussels for a couple of euros, a decent bottle of wine was about 5 euros, things like Chorizo, Jamon and all this great meat were a fraction of the cost over here. They mainly stocked local food and produce and prices were very seasonal. They also all know how to gut fish and butcher chickens, so they rarely bought chicken breasts, instead they would get a whole chicken and know how to prepare. It was terrifying to watch my ex go at a chicken with a knife. I made sure I was back in the UK before I dumped her.

 

It really is an attitudinal problem we have in this country when it comes to food and cooking. It is seen as a chore an arduous but necessary task so that we don't die, rather than seen as an enjoyable process of cooking good food and sharing it, taking your time over cooking and eating. Here food it was fit in around work and drinking/watching TV, eating is cheating, how many times do you just grab something cheap and nasty from a supermarket to keep us going instead of having a proper meal. Until we change this relationship with food, we will always be looking for cheaper, quicker easier ways to get the calories we need to survive. 

 

That is why this program won't make any difference, people don't want to eat better healthier and cheaper, they just want to eat and get on with their lives.

[hairy]

Britain’s poorest families could save money and enjoy more nutritional meals by eating stale bread, Jamie Oliver has suggested

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/jamie-oliver-let-them-eat-stale-bread-8785062.html

[Ozwin]

I wish he didn't kill off turkey twizzlers. They were the bomb.

[Nick]

I may watch this new show. I spend hundreds a month on groceries to cook with! To be fair to Mr. Oliver I use a number of his recipe books and I've learnt a lot about cooking from them.

[Jon the Hat]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/jamie-oliver-let-them-eat-stale-bread-8785062.html

 

Oh for the love of god.  I hate our media, I really do.

[Nick]

Oh for the love of god.  I hate our media, I really do.

 

I think the title of the article is misleading but the content seems fair enough!

[Zingari]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/jamie-oliver-let-them-eat-stale-bread-8785062.html

The Naked Chef said: “I meet people who say, 'You don’t understand what it’s like.’ I just want to hug them and teleport them to the Sicilian street cleaner who has 25 mussels, 10 cherry tomatoes, and a packet of spaghetti for 60 pence, and knocks out the most amazing pasta. You go to Italy or Spain and they eat well on not much money. We’ve missed out on that in Britain, somehow.â€

 

 

 I want to do the same!!

 

( well apart from the hugging bit , some of those low class greasy  fatties stink a bit )

[ADK]

What is the actual solution then?

[I am Rod Hull]

What is the actual solution then?

 

Shop around and learn to cook.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

You mean they can't heat pasta in a saucepan full of water? Really?!

 

I understand why people don't like him but it's hard to criticise what he did for school dinners. And I also don't see any problem with raising awareness with people who probably don't realise they can pick up cheap fruit and veg (in a local market or a supermarket) in order to cook a dinner that will be healthier and cheaper than a microwave meal.

 

Nigh on exactly what I thought - regardless of whether you like him or not, is he actually doing anything wrong?

[Zingari]

What is the actual solution then?

Teleport all our fatties to France Spain And Italy and don't let them back in until they've learnt how to cook and eat proper healthy stuff .

 

 

I'd probably give them a hug then .

[Haydos]

Of course they can, it doesn't mean they'll end up with a decent pasta meal though.

 

Maybe he does have a point, but not with the example he used.

 

And you get a decent pasta meal from a ready meal? Jesus, stop making excuses.

[I am Rod Hull]

Teleport all our fatties to France Spain And Italy and don't let them back in until they've learnt how to cook and eat proper healthy stuff .

 

 

I'd probably give them a hug then .

 

You dont need to go to France, Spain or Italy to learn how to cook, just visit youtube 

[Trav Le Bleu]

I know it is a generalisation, but, the lowest paid and poorest section of society are not the best educated.

 

It is not hard to make something nice and healthy for very little from Tesco, but you have to know what you are doing, pasta, chicken, onion, tin of chopped tomatoes, salt and pepper a few frozen peas a bit of oil and you can make something very healthy and nice, you want to push the boat out you can chuck in some garlic, spices, herbs, it is not hard and doesn't take long if you know what you are doing. If you don't know what you are doing, haven't ever cooked before then it sounds really complex.

 

It is so much easier to buy some ready meals or frozen chips/burgers/chicken to just chuck in the oven and job's done, this is not just poor people either, it is a general laziness towards food we have in this country.

 

So the answer is education. This is the kind of education that doesn't require high intelligence, just the knowledge. I'd argue that unfortunately the same laziness or lack of motivation (is it the same thing? ) that makes many of these families poor, will result in an apathy toward educating themselves and making their life better.

[Zingari]

You dont need to go to France, Spain or Italy to learn how to cook, just visit youtube 

My mum taught me how to cook

And  my dad taught me how to catch, kill and skin it. 

[I am Rod Hull]

My mum taught me how to cook

And  my dad taught me how to catch, kill and skin it. 

 

Havent skinned a rabbit for a few years but I still pluck and gut the odd wood pigeon or mallard now and again 

 

.177 scoped and patience 

[The God Emperor]

My mum taught me how to cook

And  my dad taught me how to catch, kill and skin it. 

Hopefully I wont be forced to do that for a good few years. got plenty of canned food in my bunker for when the new world order of space lizards takeover

[davieG]

They should bring back school cooking lessons for boys as well as girls.

[Captain...]

So the answer is education. This is the kind of education that doesn't require high intelligence, just the knowledge. I'd argue that unfortunately the same laziness or lack of motivation (is it the same thing? ) that makes many of these families poor, will result in an apathy toward educating themselves and making their life better.

Well apathy and laziness is also something we could improve on at a younger age, so much irreversible damage can be done. I didn't learn how to cook anything at school except cup cakes, my mum taught me the basics, such as heating things up in the oven, then boiling things, then frying things, whereby to the point at 14/15 years old me and my sister could fry chicken add sauce from a jar and rice. Not rocket science but enough to teach us the basics. One problem today is the education system, it is so geared to passing exams that people don't take the time to teach any other life lessons and families are too busy. It is not laziness or apathy at that age, but kids won't ask about how to cook things when they have tv to watch or games to play. They need to be encouraged from somewher to appreciate first where food comes from, then how to prepare and cook it, and finally how to enjoy it.

Like I said there is not one quick solution, such as a tv program, it needs an attitude change across the board in this country.

[ADK]

They should bring back school cooking lessons for boys as well as girls.

 

If they do that then they will have to cut back on some other aspect of education.

[Trav Le Bleu]

We need more cookery programmes.

 

[davieG]

If they do that then they will have to cut back on some other aspect of education.

Well they managed to fit it in before so I don't see that as a problem, they could combine it with other aspects managing your personal life like budgets.