bovril Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 I lived in Sicily and I can tell Jamie Oliver that street cleaners don't 'knock up' pasta and mussels ever evening. Most teenagers gorge on MacDonalds and the most popular coffee in Palermo is four Euros from Starbucks. People eat / drink shit in every country these days, same reason people prefer to browse the net than read, we've got lazy and overworked. Why doesn't he just give us recipes instead of forever bitching about what people beneath his lofty social standing eat? The ****.
Zingari Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 I lived in Sicily and I can tell Jamie Oliver that street cleaners don't 'knock up' pasta and mussels ever evening. Most teenagers gorge on MacDonalds and the most popular coffee in Palermo is four Euros from Starbucks. People eat / drink shit in every country these days, same reason people prefer to browse the net than read, we've got lazy and overworked. Why doesn't he just give us recipes instead of forever bitching about what people beneath his lofty social standing eat? The ****. yes i think some of these luvvies have their heads in the clouds
Rincewind Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 We talked about this today and will be included in the discussions on the radio on Thursday. The example he gave is not the norm. What we did say is that different people have different views of what is a priority. I would not class a 42'' TV as a priority but to some people it may be the only companionship they get. i'm not defending it though. One of our editors is doing a tenancy course and said one of the group insisted that a TV was top and would not change their mind. On Thursday there will be an in-studio poll with those present saying what would be the first thing you would buy for a new flat if money was short. Maybe a poll suggestion for on here? Not sure what mine would be. Microwave? Get one 20-30 quid. When I left home I had little knowledge with cooking. But I was not put off. Sunday, a small roast chicken spuds with stuffing and veg. I bunged it in the oven went out to a nearby laundrette, loaded my washing then nipped to the Marquis Wellington for a pint or three. After a while I realised that the pub did meals for the price of a chicken dinner. So my time in the kitchen was reduced. I then invested in a washing machine which allowed me to widen my search for the perfect pint and Sunday roast. Tonight I had cheese and onion pastie with steamed spuds and veg. Pasties 3 for 1.20 rest in freezer.
Webbo Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 He's got a series staring next week about cheap meals so that is probably why the Radio Times asked him about it. As for what he said he's absolutely correct and certainly less of a propaganda campaign than the BBC claiming thousands starving to death every time the govt change the benefit system.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Seems Jamie Oliver is suggesting some who are claiming they can't afford to eat well are eating expensive ready meals. Come on MattP and Moosebreath, let us know what you think. The Huffington Post: Oliver, whose new Channel 4 show, Jamie's Money Saving Meals, is designed to help people save on their food bill, added: "The fascinating thing for me is that seven times out of 10, the poorest families in this country choose the most expensive way to hydrate and feed their families. The ready meals, the convenience foods." The Naked Chef said: "I meet people who say, 'You don't understand what it's like.' I just want to hug them and teleport them to the Sicilian street cleaner who has 25 mussels, 10 cherry tomatoes, and a packet of spaghetti for 60 pence, and knocks out the most amazing pasta. You go to Italy or Spain and they eat well on not much money. We've missed out on that in Britain, somehow." Oliver, who had a partnership with Sainsbury's for 11 years and campaigned to improve school dinners, said: "One of the other things we look at in the (TV) series is going to your local market, which is cheaper, anyway, but also they don't dictate size. From a supermarket you're going to buy a 200g bag of this or a 400g pack of that. If you're going past a market, you can just grab 10 mangetout for dinner that night, and you don't waste anything." However the Child Poverty Action Group (CPAG) insisted that low income can be a barrier to healthy eating. Imran Hussain, the group's head of policy, said: "Jamie Oliver has made a huge contribution to improving school meals and we're grateful for the support his foundation has given us in our work on free school meals. "He is right to say that healthy food doesn't always have to be expensive - one of CPAG's ambassadors, the food blogger Jack Monroe, is an excellent example of this - but for many families it's low income which gets in the way of healthy eating. "As official statistics show, parents of poor children are much less likely to be able to afford fresh fruit for their children. We also know from the evidence that as the incomes of poor families rise, they spend more on things like healthy food and children's clothes. "The huge hits many working and non-working families are taking in their incomes as a result of cuts in tax credits and benefits are very real, as is the resulting huge growth in demand for food banks. The Government's child poverty strategy is seriously adrift and urgently needs rethinking I 100% believe it. Bloke over the road hasn't worked in the eight years I have lived here. Get's his rent and council tax paid. Smokes, drinks, has holidays, and ready meals delivered EVERY day. Must be hard to live like that, poor chap. Got himself arrested yesterday, but don't know what for..
Vlad the Fox Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 I do agree with him to a point! But has anyone noticed the price of apples lately? Lucky to get half a dozen for under £2! Consider you can get 2 dozen doughnuts for £2 and work out the Math! Healthier isn't always cheaper! 6 gala in a bag from asda £1. When I left home I got myself a cook book, more followed via birthdays and Christmas, and taught myself to cook. It isn't easy but I try and cook my family meals from scratch most of the time. The secret is to find recipes that are quick, easy and nutritious and take very little effort as sometimes it can be a real ball ache if you get home from work with a load of prep to do for dinner and your knackered.
Rincewind Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 I 100% believe it. Bloke over the road hasn't worked in the eight years I have lived here. Get's his rent and council tax paid. Smokes, drinks, has holidays, and ready meals delivered EVERY day. Must be hard to live like that, poor chap. Got himself arrested yesterday, but don't know what for.. They are the ones that make the headlines and give the genuine ones who are in the majority a bad name. Although someone who is my editor was talking about her neighbour and she said she is close in grassing him up. she said she has heard him outside on his phone boasting about not going to interviews. Stays at home and does nothing. Yet across the road she says there is a woman widowed and left with young children and she struggles to feed them. Cannot afford child care. So for every scrounger there are many who are doing everything they can to survive. Problem is the scroungers know what they are legally entitled to and where to go for help the others do not. These are the ones DNO try to help by giving out information as to where to go for financial help. Some are too proud to ask. For the record I repeat, I have no time for cheats rich or poor. Got a bag of Fair Trade bananas for £1 at sainsburys.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 We talked about this today and will be included in the discussions on the radio on Thursday. The example he gave is not the norm. What we did say is that different people have different views of what is a priority. I would not class a 42'' TV as a priority but to some people it may be the only companionship they get. i'm not defending it though. One of our editors is doing a tenancy course and said one of the group insisted that a TV was top and would not change their mind. On Thursday there will be an in-studio poll with those present saying what would be the first thing you would buy for a new flat if money was short. Maybe a poll suggestion for on here? Not sure what mine would be. Microwave? Get one 20-30 quid. When I left home I had little knowledge with cooking. But I was not put off. Sunday, a small roast chicken spuds with stuffing and veg. I bunged it in the oven went out to a nearby laundrette, loaded my washing then nipped to the Marquis Wellington for a pint or three. After a while I realised that the pub did meals for the price of a chicken dinner. So my time in the kitchen was reduced. I then invested in a washing machine which allowed me to widen my search for the perfect pint and Sunday roast. Tonight I had cheese and onion pastie with steamed spuds and veg. Pasties 3 for 1.20 rest in freezer. A 26" TV is all the companionship you can get at half the price.
Vlad the Fox Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Got a bag of Fair Trade bananas for £1 at sainsburys. Sounds good. How many in a bag? Asda do ten for £1.50.
purpleronnie Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 I've only got a 14inch, does the job though.
Rincewind Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 A 26" TV is all the companionship you can get at half the price. Not seen the article what size did he mention? I could not fit a 42 inch in my place and I doubt they would fit in most council flats. You would need a big lounge.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 I've only got a 14inch, does the job though. Is that a humble brag?
Rincewind Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Sounds good. How many in a bag? Asda do ten for £1.50. Only five.
Guest MattP Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Lower class scum in can't cook properly shocker.
Rincewind Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 goallllllllllllllll Many people cannot cook for themselves. That is where restaurants owned by Jamie Oliver come in where they charge £100 for a slice of chicken on a bay leaf.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Lower class scum in can't cook properly shocker. I'm working class and can cook perfectly well. Chattering classes in talking out their arses shocker.
Guest MattP Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Olivers restaurants are actually quite reasonable when uit comes to the main course. Only thing I could remember crticising was the price of the beluga. Was offensively expensive. I'm working class and can cook perfectly well. Chattering classes in talking out their arses shocker. Lower class scum isn't working class.
Rincewind Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Olivers restaurants are actually quite reasonable when uit comes to the main course. Only thing I could remember crticising was the price of the beluga. Was offensively expensive. Lower class scum isn't working class. Well Jamie Oliver was the subject of the thread. Saw no reason to change. Hat trick Wood.
absolutelegend Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 jamie is largly correct. basically people need to take more responsibility for their lives, instead of always looking to blame someone or something else, even for something as simple as what food they eat. I can't cook healthy food because.... I can't learn a new skill because... I can't stop smoking because... I didn't try hard at school because... I don't do much exercise because... like most things in life, it comes down to personal responsibility and effort.
Guest Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 It is down to people's personal decisions but I can't help but wonder if in this country it goes beyond that. It appears to be a cultural phenomenon here in Britain -we are just massively unhealthy compared to our European neighbours. The line "you go to Italy or Spain and they eat well on not much money. We've missed out on that in Britain, somehow" says everything about this country. Our neighbours live happier lives with less stress, better food and a more rounded lifestyle than we do here with our snouts ground into the dust day after day working longer and longer hours for less and less reward and a culture of binge drinking and poor food. But then, of course, Europe is evil so I should be glad to live here in Blighty of course!
Webbo Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 It is down to people's personal decisions but I can't help but wonder if in this country it goes beyond that. It appears to be a cultural phenomenon here in Britain -we are just massively unhealthy compared to our European neighbours. The line "you go to Italy or Spain and they eat well on not much money. We've missed out on that in Britain, somehow" says everything about this country. Our neighbours live happier lives with less stress, better food and a more rounded lifestyle than we do here with our snouts ground into the dust day after day working longer and longer hours for less and less reward and a culture of binge drinking and poor food. But then, of course, Europe is evil so I should be glad to live here in Blighty of course! What's the unemployment rate in well rounded Spain and Italy?
Kyle_Le_Don Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Not the most expensive way. You can stuff your family for about £3.80 at Maryland Chicken. They may well throw it back up 30 minutes later, but it'll have worked out cheaper than his ideas Also... ...I want a Turkey Twizzler, and it'll never happen again after he singled them out. "Make your own th...thhhhh.... *SPITTING* thhhhhhhhh.... PUKKA th.... thhhhhhhhhh *SPITTING*. Chuck-a- puckin' thhh thhh mint leathes in thhhhhhh..thh pan, pucking thucking lovely... thhhhhh!" *SPIT* Can't believe I will never eat a twizzler again!
MPH Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Several months ago I was driving along the road and this taxi pulled out of this road that came from a poor area. Nothing wrong with that of course... lots of people dont have cars. Well I was on The way to the chemist.. this woman took the taxi and went into the McDonald's drive through that was next to it!!!! Couldn't belive it!! got my sons medication in time to see her handed two large bags of food and a drinks tray. Getting a taxi to go to McDonald's drive thru!! Bet it cost a small fortune when you factor in the cost of the taxi. Could of fed a family for all their meals for a few days jamie style. so glad jamie didnt see it. Would of had a heart attack bless him!
Rincewind Posted 27 August 2013 Posted 27 August 2013 Several months ago I was driving along the road and this taxi pulled out of this road that came from a poor area. Nothing wrong with that of course... lots of people dont have cars. Well I was on The way to the chemist.. this woman took the taxi and went into the McDonald's drive through that was next to it!!!! Couldn't belive it!! got my sons medication in time to see her handed two large bags of food and a drinks tray. Getting a taxi to go to McDonald's drive thru!! Bet it cost a small fortune when you factor in the cost of the taxi. Could of fed a family for all their meals for a few days jamie style. so glad jamie didnt see it. Would of had a heart attack bless him! Could have been an eccentric millionaire. Never assume.
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