Jon the Hat Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 From my own experience of drinking and meeting girls, back in the day, it's usually best to give neither your name, job, phone number, address or anything. Yeah, if you are not careful they find you and before you know it you are married with kids and mortgage!!
Jon the Hat Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Unless its a few million worth of gold bars No seriously I agree better to work for your wealth than inheriting it H It's anice theory, but right now I would happily accept a hefty inheritance.
Zingari Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Give anyone or anything an inch and they will always try and take a mile. Do you think it's possible you are mixing with like minded people too much Most people in my experience react very positively to small acts of kindness .
Rincewind Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 I was always spared all that regarding dates with girls. They always got in first with a 'NO WAY!'
Guest MattP Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Do you think it's possible you are mixing with like minded people too much Most people in my experience react very positively to small acts of kindness . I was talking about society in general. I would go out of my way for my friends and family in any way shape or form and expect nor want nothing back.
Guest MattP Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 No seriously I agree better to work for your wealth than inheriting it A big inheritance rarely comes without responsibility. One of my close friends will receive a very large sum at some point in his life but he will also be expected to take on the family business, he has already done a university course and will now be at nightschool for a few years to prepare to do it so it's unfair to say he won't have worked for it. That's way inheritance tax is a nasty piece of theft pushed by envy ridden people in government.
leicsmac Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 There's more satisfaction in having something earned and worked hard for than anything simply given on a plate. At the same time though, money won is twice as sweet as money earned.
Rincewind Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 A big inheritance rarely comes without responsibility. One of my close friends will receive a very large sum at some point in his life but he will also be expected to take on the family business, he has already done a university course and will now be at nightschool for a few years to prepare to do it so it's unfair to say he won't have worked for it. That's way inheritance tax is a nasty piece of theft pushed by envy ridden people in government.
Guest MattP Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Yep, god forbid anyone actually work hard in life to leave something for a offspring, sick individuals.
Zingari Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 A big inheritance rarely comes without responsibility. One of my close friends will receive a very large sum at some point in his life but he will also be expected to take on the family business, he has already done a university course and will now be at nightschool for a few years to prepare to do it so it's unfair to say he won't have worked for it. That's way inheritance tax is a nasty piece of theft pushed by envy ridden people in government. Noblesse Oblige
Captain... Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 A big inheritance rarely comes without responsibility. One of my close friends will receive a very large sum at some point in his life but he will also be expected to take on the family business, he has already done a university course and will now be at nightschool for a few years to prepare to do it so it's unfair to say he won't have worked for it. That's way inheritance tax is a nasty piece of theft pushed by envy ridden people in government. It's a funny one, the problem with inheritance is that it doesn't fit the capitalist model, there should be a disincentive to saving lots of money and not spending it, I know that the tax is on your estate and not just money, not sure how it works on investments. For capitalism to work money needs to be constantly moving and not get caught up in the uber rich. The limit is 325k up to 650k if inherited from 2 people indirectly (partner dies leaves all to wife, she then dies and leaves all to kids, so counts as double the limit). That is a lot of money, any more than that is kind of superfluous. I would much rather see my parents retire early and spend my "inheritance" having a good life in their retirement (which is what they have done), than work themselves to the bitter end for more money to pass on to me. There are exceptions where someone has inherited the house they are living in, and had to pay tax on it, and the only way to do so is by selling the house, but really if you've just inherited over 350k, and you have to pay tax on all of that over the 350k it is still not a great hardship. 350k tax free is between 10-20 years work depending on how much you are on.
MooseBreath Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Inheritance tax is a breach of a fundamental human right imo. No government should have the right to steal from dead people. It's nothing short of a disgrace.
Steven Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Inheritance tax is a breach of a fundamental human right imo. No government should have the right to steal from dead people. It's nothing short of a disgrace. I agree. I am going to have a lie down now
Captain... Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 I agree. I am going to have a lie down now I'll reply to you as I have moose on ignore cos he's a tiresome troll, unfortunately I see his quoted posts. It is not stealing off dead people, it is the living people who have inherited a large amount of money that pay tax on it. Ironic that those so against the entitlement attitude of the poor are such big supporters of it when it comes to the rich. You pay tax on things you have worked for, why is it so bad to pay tax on things you haven't done anything in life to deserve.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Its hard going on Foxes Talk with all the pro Pearsonites, but common sense will prevail.
Mike Oxlong Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 I'll reply to you as I have moose on ignore cos he's a tiresome troll, unfortunately I see his quoted posts. It is not stealing off dead people, it is the living people who have inherited a large amount of money that pay tax on it. . Inheritance tax is generally paid from the estate of the deceased before it is passed on to beneficiaries.
Jon the Hat Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 It's a funny one, the problem with inheritance is that it doesn't fit the capitalist model, there should be a disincentive to saving lots of money and not spending it, I know that the tax is on your estate and not just money, not sure how it works on investments. For capitalism to work money needs to be constantly moving and not get caught up in the uber rich. The limit is 325k up to 650k if inherited from 2 people indirectly (partner dies leaves all to wife, she then dies and leaves all to kids, so counts as double the limit). That is a lot of money, any more than that is kind of superfluous. I would much rather see my parents retire early and spend my "inheritance" having a good life in their retirement (which is what they have done), than work themselves to the bitter end for more money to pass on to me. There are exceptions where someone has inherited the house they are living in, and had to pay tax on it, and the only way to do so is by selling the house, but really if you've just inherited over 350k, and you have to pay tax on all of that over the 350k it is still not a great hardship. 350k tax free is between 10-20 years work depending on how much you are on. £650k is a family home down here.
The God Emperor Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 It's a funny one, the problem with inheritance is that it doesn't fit the capitalist model, there should be a disincentive to saving lots of money and not spending it, I know that the tax is on your estate and not just money, not sure how it works on investments. For capitalism to work money needs to be constantly moving and not get caught up in the uber rich. The limit is 325k up to 650k if inherited from 2 people indirectly (partner dies leaves all to wife, she then dies and leaves all to kids, so counts as double the limit). that's not true. money is constantly moving around, the only way that it doesnt is if people hide it under a matress. you keep you money in a bank, it is being moved round by them in the form of loans so that people can own property and start businesses. capitalism isnt about the super rich making everyone spend money, its about money being in the hands of individuals to spend or save as they wish rather than the government's hands. Inheritance or providing for ones children is the main incentive for anyone going out to earn a significant amount of money. my dad didn't work up and down the country doing 7 day weeks for months on end doing a job he hated for his own benefit, he did it so that I could have advantages that he didn't when he was young. at the moment I'm content plodding along doing the job I'm doing now but if I ever have family I'll probably do the same that he did.
Guest MattP Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Sorry Captain but it is stealing from the dead. You can try and dress it up as taking it from the one who is inheriting it if you want but we both know that is not what is happening. Dead people still have money and you are resorting to the actions of a common criminal. I find it amazing people like you criticise tax cheats etc and people who hold money in foreign accounts and then support things like this. Amyone who hides their money to avoid inheritance tax should be treated as a hero, not a criminal. There is only one thief in this scenario.
Rincewind Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 I'll reply to you as I have moose on ignore cos he's a tiresome troll, unfortunately I see his quoted posts. It is not stealing off dead people, it is the living people who have inherited a large amount of money that pay tax on it. Ironic that those so against the entitlement attitude of the poor are such big supporters of it when it comes to the rich. You pay tax on things you have worked for, why is it so bad to pay tax on things you haven't done anything in life to deserve. spot on How can anyone seriously think that anyone fiddling taxes and tax payers is an hero yet somebody on minimum wages or somebody with a disability and claiming benefits that are a living income by law is wrong? It's a laugh.
Guest MattP Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 You know a country is ****ed when non tax payers are demanding tax payers pay even more. What a fcuk up. How did we get to this?
MooseBreath Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Not just ordinary tax payers now either but dead tax payers too. It is deeply disturbing that good honest hard working people who have dedicated decades of their lives to the grind in order to leave something to their descendants, are having their good intentions and dignity ripped apart by these rabid vultures, barely seconds after they've taken their last breath. What a sorry state of affairs. It's an appalling, twisted lack of morality which leads these vermin to convince themselves that stealing is ok. For some I'm convinced it's become a sordid perversion, where actual pleasure is derived from denying a man his one final gift to those he loves. They'll actually sit in the pub drinking another person's life savings and will actually be proud of what they've done, convincing themselves that they deserve it. A humanitarian disgrace.
leicsmac Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Now THAT is pure, unsullied selfrighteous indignation almost worthy of the very best evangelical preachers. Impressed.
Guest MattP Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 Not just ordinary tax payers now either but dead tax payers too. It is deeply disturbing that good honest hard working people who have dedicated decades of their lives to the grind in order to leave something to their descendants, are having their good intentions and dignity ripped apart by these rabid vultures, barely seconds after they've taken their last breath. What a sorry state of affairs. It's an appalling, twisted lack of morality which leads these vermin to convince themselves that stealing is ok. For some I'm convinced it's become a sordid perversion, where actual pleasure is derived from denying a man his one final gift to those he loves. They'll actually sit in the pub drinking another person's life savings and will actually be proud of what they've done, convincing themselves that they deserve it. A humanitarian disgrace. Perfectly put. "Sick Perversion" - that's exactly what it is.
Guest MattP Posted 6 September 2013 Posted 6 September 2013 spot on How can anyone seriously think that anyone fiddling taxes and tax payers is an hero yet somebody on minimum wages or somebody with a disability and claiming benefits that are a living income by law is wrong? It's a laugh. It's the Law, it's the Law!! it must be right!!! Go to work, pay more tax I need more Money!!!! Give me more!!!!
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