leicsmac Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Like all of natures animals Mark, we are put on this earth to propagate. That is why we have two sexes. Fairly basic I would have thought. Accidents of nature do happen, and that is why we have homosexuals and lesbians. I also notice that people afflicted by this mistake of nature, don't liked being called what they are, and so have invented a change to the real meaning of the word gay. And as has been said here before, does sex exist purely for the purpose of procreation? If it does, then the online pr0n business really shouldn't be making much dough. And what about heterosexual couples who simply just don't want kids?
RumbleFox Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 I am genuinely horrified by some of the views on here. You do realise Mr Dangerous Tiger that Homosexuality is not a choice? It is not as though you can "promote" it and suddenly everybody will be gay. May I ask at what age you "chose" to be straight? Half of me can't be bothered to even bite in case you are trolling but my God man what is wrong with you? First off, sexuality is not a choice. This campaign is not "promoting" homosexuality, simply asking for support for anyone who happens to be gay. Secondly, who cares what sexuality someone is? I am amazed it is still even an issue in by now. Surely your life would be easier if you were not horrified by so many things. X
Captain... Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Like all of natures animals Mark, we are put on this earth to propagate. That is why we have two sexes. Fairly basic I would have thought. Accidents of nature do happen, and that is why we have homosexuals and lesbians. I also notice that people afflicted by this mistake of nature, don't liked being called what they are, and so have invented a change to the real meaning of the word gay. If we have been put on this earth to procreate, then you would have no problem with gay men having babies and raising children, just fvcking other men on the side for a bit of fun.
Strokes Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 If we have been put on this earth to procreate, then you would have no problem with gay men having babies and raising children, just fvcking other men on the side for a bit of fun.We all do that, dont we?
Harry - LCFC Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 And what about heterosexual couples who simply just don't want kids? Exactly. If you're going to say homosexuality is abnormal then you have to be equally condemning of couples who choose not to have children. If DT hasn't got children of his own then I'd ask him if he thinks he's functioning correctly? Or is there something wrong with him? I don't think this 'natural behaviour' argument holds any merit. Humans do so many things that might be considered unnatural that there's really no point in trying to justify your anti-gay stance by saying it isn't in keeping with 'natural' behaviour. Use of condoms is a good example.
Guest Bilo Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Jesus. This thread is like going back in time.
Strokes Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Jesus. This thread is like going back in time. Im just ironing my ben sherman shirt.
Guest Bilo Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Looking forward to the latest episode of Love Thy Neighbour tonight. Ooh, hang on. My golliwog just fell off the bed.
leicsmac Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Jesus. This thread is like going back in time. Well, irrationality and irrational views are peoples right to have through the ages...but of course its other peoples right to call them out on it.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 People are welcome to express their own views on homosexuality. What the issue is is the lack of rational reasoning behind practically all of the negative ones. Pretty much every reason for actively being against equality in terms of this is fallacious, from the "slippery slope" fallacy (oh, homosexuals are equal so paedophiles will be soon too) to the "limited information" fallacy (it doesn't lead to procreation, when the majority of sex is for recreational purposes anyway). This is a public forum and you're absolutely fine to say whatever you like, but don't pretend that there is any logic or rationality behind a dislike of homosexuals. Noone has said they dislike homosexuality though have they?
lgfualol Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Like all of natures animals Mark, we are put on this earth to propagate. That is why we have two sexes. Fairly basic I would have thought. Accidents of nature do happen, and that is why we have homosexuals and lesbians. I also notice that people afflicted by this mistake of nature, don't liked being called what they are, and so have invented a change to the real meaning of the word gay. Are you going to start quoting the bible? Or telling us that God Hates Fags? Just curious.
Harry - LCFC Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Noone has said they dislike homosexuality though have they? "abnormal" "unnatural" - don't fit in, not normal human behaviour, excluded from people who behave 'normally'
leicsmac Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Noone has said they dislike homosexuality though have they? Nope, not directly. Instead they are hiding behind supposedly sound 'reasoning' in an attempt to give their dislike a veneer of authenticity. But believe me, the dislike is there. If the club take part in this I wont be going again. Disgusting. Though this runs it pretty close, I would say.
HoustonFox Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 I am genuinely horrified by some of the views on here. You do realise Mr Dangerous Tiger that Homosexuality is not a choice? It is not as though you can "promote" it and suddenly everybody will be gay. May I ask at what age you "chose" to be straight? Half of me can't be bothered to even bite in case you are trolling but my God man what is wrong with you? First off, sexuality is not a choice. This campaign is not "promoting" homosexuality, simply asking for support for anyone who happens to be gay. Secondly, who cares what sexuality someone is? I am amazed it is still even an issue in by now. Surely your life would be easier if you were not horrified by so many things. X Well said Rumble. It is a disgrace it is still an issue but the fact that there is the need for campaigns like this clearly demonstrates that there is still need for awareness and promoting tolerance. I am sick of people who say minorities just bleat to get sympathy. No they ask for recognition and equality which is a basic human right.
Ash79 Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 I'm horrified by some of the views aired on this topic recently whilst everyone's opinion should be allowed on a forum like this the sheer intolerance of some people staggers me... I'm not gay but if either of my children chose to be I'd love them all the same... I think THIS topic alone shows why more needs to be done to support homosexuality in football.
BoneDog Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 You MUST be joking. No, I honestly can't see what the problem is nowadays. Every time I see a gay out somewhere they seem happy enough. If someone is giving a gay unwarranted grief where they live or work then they should report it to the police or at least assault them with a car jack to warn them off. On a side note, did anyone hear Stringer's piece on the radio about this around 2.30 time yesterday? I think he had to read something out and it went along the lines of, 'football is dominated by heterosexual attitudes and this is about getting more homosexual attitudes involved in football'. Why? We don't need any kind of attitudes in football, we just want people who are committed and try to play their best when they get a game. 95% of people couldn't give a plop about what the footballer does in their spare time - or if they're gay.
Formidable Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Absolutely ridiculous. Queer footballers do not want a pair of fooking laces to prove all is okay. How many gays are in pro football anyway? Shouldn't be encouraged at all.
BoneDog Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Can see the same excuses being trotted out for paedophilia in 50 years time. Oh they can't help it...ohh its natural...animals do it...peadophobe! It's already happening in some parts of the "Liberal Intelligentsia". Tatchell has already had a chapter in at least one book trying to 'normalise' adult 'relationships' with children. And a few other famous faces have also said similar words. Nonces.
Buce Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Provide proof that over a thousand species do it! It is morally wrong. How can two 'men' reproduce? Masturbation is natures way of reliving tension Presumably you feel the same way about any sexual act that can't result in pregnancy? Must be a wild time in your house..
leicsmac Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Absolutely ridiculous. Queer footballers do not want a pair of fooking laces to prove all is okay. How many gays are in pro football anyway? Shouldn't be encouraged at all. Depends on the aim of the campaign. If it's to try and educate and lose the stigma of being a gay footballer, then surely it's a good thing? And yes, there IS a stigma attached. We don't know how many, because of the aforementioned stigma. I do agree with Empty in that if a guy is a good enough footballer, being gay or not gay shouldn't be an issue. But it still is, and everyone knows it. It's already happening in some parts of the "Liberal Intelligentsia". Tatchell has already had a chapter in at least one book trying to 'normalise' adult 'relationships' with children. And a few other famous faces have also said similar words. Nonces. Don't go all 'slippery slope fallacy' on us here Empty. You made a bloody good point above and you know that acceptance of homosexuality and acceptable of paedophilia are two completely different things and one in no way is going to lead to the other.
BoneDog Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 On a side note, I've often warned people of the dangers of pootube sex. Even some heterosexuals do it and I warn them in the same way so I'm not being gayist if I ever say bum sex is bang out of order. ANUSES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE ENTERED. THEY ARE PROVEN BY SCIENTISTS TO BE EXIT PIPES. BEWARE. So what your saying is it is perfectly natural for ugly men who can't any pussy to go gay, there may be some truth in that: No I wasn't saying that about gay people, just what I think of the gay animal arguement! Looking forward to the latest episode of Love Thy Neighbour tonight. Ooh, hang on. My golliwog just fell off the bed.
BoneDog Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Don't go all 'slippery slope fallacy' on us here Empty. You made a bloody good point above and you know that acceptance of homosexuality and acceptable of paedophilia are two completely different things and one in no way is going to lead to the other. I never meant to imply that gays are in any way like paedos. I don't think that at all I just meant that some people are actually already saying what MattP said they would - Tatchell being one of them. I would say Dawkins is in that camp too and I don't think he's gay.
Buce Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 I am genuinely horrified by some of the views on here. You do realise Mr Dangerous Tiger that Homosexuality is not a choice? It is not as though you can "promote" it and suddenly everybody will be gay. May I ask at what age you "chose" to be straight? Half of me can't be bothered to even bite in case you are trolling but my God man what is wrong with you? First off, sexuality is not a choice. This campaign is not "promoting" homosexuality, simply asking for support for anyone who happens to be gay. Secondly, who cares what sexuality someone is? I am amazed it is still even an issue in by now. Surely your life would be easier if you were not horrified by so many things. X As difficult as it is to believe, unfortunately he's not trolling; I've seen his views on other topics. No, the fact is he really is every bit as odious as he seems.
leicsmac Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 I never meant to imply that gays are in any way like paedos. I don't think that at all I just meant that some people are actually already saying what MattP said they would - Tatchell being one of them. I would say Dawkins is in that camp too and I don't think he's gay. That's true, but I don't reckon the word of professional shit-stirrers like Tatchell and Dawkins (and yes, they are antagonistic despite making some good points on some topics) should really be taken as representative, just like the word on active antagonists on the other side of the debate should be either.
thlcfc93 Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 100% serious. If people are homosexual, that is no fault of theirs, but to promote is the norm, is wrong, For my stepson to get his very young nephews and niece to call him "aunty" is disgusting. He is well aware of my views. What difference does it make if those kids do think of it "as the norm", what harm is it going to do them exactly? Also, don't get how you can "promote homosexuality". It isn't something that you just advertise and recruit new gays from a young age and if you think that is the case then you're about as deluded as it gets.
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