Corky Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 I have no problems with homosexuals(the word gay means happy), but to integrate it with sport is ludicrous. My stepson is a homosexual, and I accept it, but to expose to children, as normal behaviour, (and we have them watching football), is a bloody disgrace, and little short of disgusting. If people are homosexual, or lesbian inclined, so be it, but don't promote natures sexually flawed humanoids. Bloody hell, they have a sexual preference, they aren't criminals.
Strokes Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Bloody hell, they have a sexual preference, they aren't criminals.I bet some are, equality and all that.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 And as has been said here before, does sex exist purely for the purpose of procreation? If it does, then the online pr0n business really shouldn't be making much dough. And what about heterosexual couples who simply just don't want kids? Big difference. That is a choice. Lesbians and homosexuals are natural mistakes of nature, not inferior of course, but more to be pitied for their circumstance.
Guest Bilo Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Come on DT, you can't stay in there forever!
Harry - LCFC Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Big difference. That is a choice. Lesbians and homosexuals are natural mistakes of nature, not inferior of course, but more to be pitied for their circumstance. The irony in that comment is astonishing. Truly astonishing. That you can sit there and say 'not inferior' despite explicitly stating you think they are inferior is quite unbelievable.
Buce Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Bloody hell, they have a sexual preference, they aren't criminals. Only since 1967.
fatboytim Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Big difference. That is a choice. Lesbians and homosexuals are natural mistakes of nature, not inferior of course, but more to be pitied for their circumstance. Those 3 words, together, in that order just don't make any sense to me. None of us are genetically perfect so I guess you could say that we are all "mistakes of nature" to some extent. But irrespective of this, if we are to condemn homosexuals on the basis that "it just isn't natural" as well as recreational sex, are we all meant to stop flying off to faraway locations as humans don't naturally fly? Or stop wearing glasses/contact lenses as eyesight naturally gets worse with old age and we weren't born with such artificial aids. I really don't think my blood pressure would be able to stand reading through this whole thread so if it's already been answered, I apologise for asking again, but does anyone know which of our players (if any) wore their rainbow laces yesterday? It's sad that this is still an issue - who really cares what consenting adults get up to as long as no-one gets hurt? - but the fact that this thread has so many replies and has caused such a debate on here means that the whole rainbow laces campaign is needed, the same as kick racism out was/is still needed.
Strokes Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Has this thread gone to far for puns? Please advise.
Kitchandro Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 No surprise to see DT trolling another thread.
C-man Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 No, I honestly can't see what the problem is nowadays. Every time I see a gay out somewhere they seem happy enough. I'm sure they are. But you don't live in countries where they are beaten, arrested or even murdered for being homosexual so you cannot use that as an argument to claim that there is no persecution. With that logic it's probably a good thing that you weren't around during the Holocaust. 'What are these fvcking Jews moaning about now? They're not persecuted. Look how rich they are', says El Empty Head as Hitler chambers another million. I wish people would just stick DT on ignore, or at least not quote his homophobic bile. Odious creature.
1964FOX Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 It saddens me that some still have the views expressed in this thread although I realise some are on the wind up and others think they are being funny. What pleases me is that they are getting fewer and fewer and are have to hid behind computer forums to express their views which are usually made through lack of understanding of the issues the LGBT community deal with. Hopefully soon a few footballers will come out and if this campaign helps then good.
Kitchandro Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Exaxtly. Its the same as black managers. The only people who don't make the black managers issue an issue are the black managers themselves Not true. Powell and Ince are right cvnts about it. They love stirring it up in interviews.
Haydos Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Morning Mark, No I have no problems with them, but I do object to the manner in which a number attempt to promote it as being "normal" Nobody's promoting homosexuality you ****tard. Nor even trying to say it's 'normal'. It's to try and make it acceptable for footballers to live their life as normal without having to live in secret or be persecuted to it or even driven to suicide. I'd rather have 100 poofs in the world instead of you if it meant not having to read your bigoted shit all the time.
Haydos Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Big difference. That is a choice. Lesbians and homosexuals are natural mistakes of nature, not inferior of course, but more to be pitied for their circumstance. Why isn't this cvnt banned from here yet?
Dr The Singh Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Why isn't this cvnt banned from here yet? We need cvnts like him to remind us of how lucky we are, that we don't think like him. He's our censor check!!
Kitchandro Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Can see the same excuses being trotted out for paedophilia in 50 years time. Oh they can't help it...ohh its natural...animals do it...peadophobe! What I would say about that Matt is that paedophilia is no less 'natural' than homosexuality in essence, and in fact I suspect it's a lot more common than we think. Acting on it is a different matter. It's hurting nobody if two grown blokes have sex. Raping a kid is obviously hurting the kid.
Guest Bilo Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 While attitudes like some of those expressed on this thread are allowed to persist, there will never be an openly gay footballer. It's really quite saddening that our national support is still a bastion for the kind of bigotry, prejudice and venom the rest of British society expunged decades ago. We rightly criticise the monkey chanting crowds of Eastern Europe, but we have to accept that our very own game has a different type of prejudice that is just as backward and just as prevalent. The worst thing is that we don't seem to have an idea how to move forward. We either go the Liverpool way and call phrases like 'man up' homophobic when they patently aren't, or condone the kind of homophobia Sol Campbell faced from Tottenham fans as 'banter.' Plenty say it's a non-issue and that gay footballers who hide their sexuality should be able to survive this, but what if they have a partner and have to deny it at every opportunity? What if they even have to have a sham relationship with a woman to 'prove' their 'red-bloodedness?' With the thousands of professional footballers in this country, this is a situation that has probably been repeated dozens or maybe even hundreds of times. Football has to accept it's part of society and should reflect that. We wouldn't accept racist abuse on the terraces in 2013 because Britain's great strides in accepting difference and diversity is reflected on the terraces, we shouldn't accept or excuse homophobic abuse for the same reason.
Dr The Singh Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 What I would say about that Matt is that paedophilia is no less 'natural' than homosexuality in essence, and in fact I suspect it's a lot more common than we think. Acting on it is a different matter. It's hurting nobody if two grown blokes have sex. Raping a kid is obviously hurting the kid. You can't compare homo's to paedo's, that's insane! Homo's have consentual relationships, paedo's prey on young vunerable children!!
Kitchandro Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 You can't compare homo's to paedo's, that's insane! Homo's have consentual relationships, paedo's prey on young vunerable children!! I thought I just said that? Can you not read?
Dr The Singh Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 I thought I just said that? Can you not read? My post wasn't at you, it was about the whole thing! I was lazy, and quoted you to make things quick Are you descriminating against me cus I can't spell or read?
Haydos Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 While attitudes like some of those expressed on this thread are allowed to persist, there will never be an openly gay footballer. It's really quite saddening that our national support is still a bastion for the kind of bigotry, prejudice and venom the rest of British society expunged decades ago. We rightly criticise the monkey chanting crowds of Eastern Europe, but we have to accept that our very own game has a different type of prejudice that is just as backward and just as prevalent. The worst thing is that we don't seem to have an idea how to move forward. We either go the Liverpool way and call phrases like 'man up' homophobic when they patently aren't, or condone the kind of homophobia Sol Campbell faced from Tottenham fans as 'banter.' Plenty say it's a non-issue and that gay footballers who hide their sexuality should be able to survive this, but what if they have a partner and have to deny it at every opportunity? What if they even have to have a sham relationship with a woman to 'prove' their 'red-bloodedness?' With the thousands of professional footballers in this country, this is a situation that has probably been repeated dozens or maybe even hundreds of time. Football has to accept it's part of society and should reflect that. We wouldn't accept racist abuse on the terraces in 2013 because Britain's great strides in accepting difference and diversity is reflected on the terraces, we shouldn't accept or excuse homophobic abuse for the same reason. It's not 'football' though, it's people. I know it's not the best sample size but we can see from this thread that the majority are sympathetic, open minded, non judgemental people. There are a few that accept but lean towards not classing it as completely normal. Finally there's disgusting pieces of shit like DT that are homophobic and don't care if people know it. He might deny it but he is. He looks down on gays, he thinks that he's better and even genetically superior to them because he was 'made correctly'. He can dress it up any way he wants but he's an unpleasant, small minded man who is stuck in the past. It may sound extreme but he is exactly the reason why gay men and women still hide it. Imagine if his son or daughter were gay. Imagine if they ARE. That is the kind of situation that drives people to killing themselves. We have gay people reading this thread and having to read his 'views'. Some may brush it off but others may see it as another blow and it really is. Attitudes like this shouldn't exist and I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be banned from this forum.
Bert Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 Bagged with my rainbow laces this morning! Couldn't give two hoots about what sexuality the next person is. Let people be free and be who they want to be.
stevelcfc Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 I just think its sad that we still live in a society where there is discrimination against whatever race, sexuality etc. They shouldn't need a campaign, they are just normal people, the same as you and me, equals, not inferior in any way shape or form. Who gives two shits where they are from, who they are or what there sexual inclination is. Its none of our business anyway,
Kitchandro Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 It's not 'football' though, it's people. I know it's not the best sample size but we can see from this thread that the majority are sympathetic, open minded, non judgemental people. There are a few that accept but lean towards not classing it as completely normal. Finally there's disgusting pieces of shit like DT that are homophobic and don't care if people know it. He might deny it but he is. He looks down on gays, he thinks that he's better and even genetically superior to them because he was 'made correctly'. He can dress it up any way he wants but he's an unpleasant, small minded man who is stuck in the past. It may sound extreme but he is exactly the reason why gay men and women still hide it. Imagine if his son or daughter were gay. Imagine if they ARE. That is the kind of situation that drives people to killing themselves. We have gay people reading this thread and having to read his 'views'. Some may brush it off but others may see it as another blow and it really is. Attitudes like this shouldn't exist and I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be banned from this forum. Well I'm afraid this is the downside of free speech, the internet and anyone being allowed to use it. I'd love to see DT banned because he's a cvnt but technically, he's not doing anything wrong. At the end of the day, it is just a ifferent opinion, no matter how wrong rational people think it is. Of course, if Mark just doesn't like him he can do what he likes I wish I could just ban people from facebook, there's about 100 DTs on my newsfeed.
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