davieG Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10373105/Ministers-urged-to-forget-about-saving-failing-cities-and-towns-such-as-Hull-Hartlepool-and-Burnley.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Do these people not think that these places are failing because there are attitudes like this towards them in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Saw this on 'Have I Got News For You' on Friday. I'm sure the Government don't care about anything outside of London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny. Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Saw this on 'Have I Got News For You' on Friday. I'm sure the Government don't care about anything outside of London. There is stuff outside of London?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 There is stuff outside of London?! Yes. Some great places with some great sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Yes. Some great places with some great sights. I think you're confused. There's just a vast, unwashed wasteland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexikokopops Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 I think you're confused. There's just a vast, unwashed wasteland. Beyond the commuter belt of course. I'm having my mansion in the countryside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 I think you're confused. There's just a vast, unwashed wasteland. I know Hull and Middlesbrough always get brushed with this 'worst place' thing. Not going to disagree, but both places have wonderful sights in terms of The Humber Bridge and The Transporter Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 And the way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zingari Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Do people actually get paid to write tripe like that? Surely it's some schoolboy's homework essay that's somehow been printed by mistake. I would think it's much easier to move jobs to places where people and houses are , than to move people to jobs where there is little spare housing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 I think you're confused. There's just a vast, unwashed wasteland. Ahhh Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseBreath Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Seems reasonable to me. If expensive efforts to attract jobs to these cities are failing, why not concentrate on improving transport infrastructure so that people living in those cities find it easier to get to jobs in other cities? Then they can bring their wealth back to the original city which will provoke growth in a much more natural way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Surely help these towns out? Don't let them become more derelict and dull than they already are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 I have to say that it is a very odd idea to promote people to work outside their area. Surely it is akin to putting that old cart before the horse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 I know Hull and Middlesbrough always get brushed with this 'worst place' thing. Not going to disagree, but both places have wonderful sights in terms of The Humber Bridge and The Transporter Bridge. The Humber Bridge isn't in Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Ideally you want people to work close to home, cutting traffic, pollution and increasing local wealth. There's absolutely no reason why cities such as Hull, Middlesborough, Burnley (I notice these are all in the north ) can't attract businesses beyond a general apathy of large companies wanting to make an effort. I'm not talking sacrifices here, just the same thing that every working jo/e has to put into their job if they want to be successful, a modicum of effort. Ivory towers and all that. Let them eat barm cakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 The Humber Bridge isn't in Hull. Humberside then. My mate lives about two minutes away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexikokopops Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Surely help these towns out? Don't let them become more derelict and dull than they already are! The article's argument was based on the Government having already spent too much on these towns and it not changing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 The article's argument was based on the Government having already spent too much on these towns and it not changing things. Ah right. I had a case of misleadingtitleitis as I couldn't open the article. I've recovered now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 What utter crap. Britain needs to revive it's manufacturing industries, what better place than previous industrial areas with international gateways and with regard to Hull, a motorway that runs right to the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseBreath Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 What utter crap. Britain needs to revive it's manufacturing industries, what better place than previous industrial areas with international gateways and with regard to Hull, a motorway that runs right to the town. You want to bring things like the textiles industries back with human manufacturing so that we can produce pairs of socks for about a tenner each which nobody will ever buy? Or do you want to cut the min wage back to about a pound an hour and see a return to days of practically no h&s regs so that we can compete on price with the likes of China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 You want to bring things like the textiles industries back with human manufacturing so that we can produce pairs of socks for about a tenner each which nobody will ever buy? Or do you want to cut the min wage back to about a pound an hour and see a return to days of practically no h&s regs so that we can compete on price with the likes of China? No you bring back what works or is needed. How long do you think the nannie state can last on service industries. I don't understand your argument that everything has to be black or white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Humberside then. My mate lives about two minutes away from it. He doesn't live in Hull then, he lives in Hessle. It would be like trying to talk about Leicester by bringing up Melton Mowbray or Loughborough. Don't slag off a city ("I don't disagree") you've clearly never visited aside from the football (which is in a shite area as most modern stadiums are, look at the KP) then try to make yourself look reasoned by bringing up a giant concrete white elephant that's not even in the city. If you'd said the Marina, the Fruit Market, most of the City Centre (which is actually rather attractive), Queens Gardens or any of the student areas I would accept that you know what you're talking about. There are a lot of talented, well educated and determined people in cities like Hull continually undermined by ignorance like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseBreath Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 No you bring back what works or is needed. How long do you think the nannie state can last on service industries. I don't understand your argument that everything has to be black or white. Whatever manufacturing that works is already here. The beauty of a free market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 22 October 2013 Share Posted 22 October 2013 Whatever manufacturing that works is already here. The beauty of a free market. If that was so, the area Greenville Spartanburg SC would still be a farming region instead of the high tech industrialized area it is today with all the attendant service industries That was set up as a special economic zone some years ago that has attracted many notable manufacturers to the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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