Leicester City boss Nigel Pearson says club in much better position than when he took over

[RumbleFox]

His fans use any ol' rubbish to prove what a God like man he is. The only thing that counts is winning as i've said before, if he wins promotion, then he's done a good job, if he doesn't he must be and i'm sure he will be sacked.  My opinion of him is known so l won't go on about it. Lets hope he wins promotion, but l would not put one penny on him doing it.

 

Wowee mister, you'd be a tough boss!!  Whilst I want promotion as much as anyone and I want it this season some of the talk on here is just funny.  If you were doing your job well, you improved your stats, reduced your outgoings and improved the morale in your office I bet you wouldn't be quite so black and white if your boss said "two other men in our Swindon branch got slightly better stats that you so you're sacked me duck."  I know football is a different world but let's all try and be a bit less joyful about the prospect of people losing jobs eh?

 

And before you start, I don't want to accept being a Championship team and I want promotion this year I just don't quite have the same beleif as you that Leicester City have a divine right, more right than anyone else in this league and a few in the premiership to be in the top tier.  These things can sometimes take a little time and I truly believe we'd be looking at administration without Pearson.  Let's try and enjoy football a bit more eh?  It's suppoesed to be fun you know.

 

Come on you Foxes!!

 

X

[Dan]

Surely the question would be "Is Nigel Pearson the best man to lead us to a promotion or is someone else avaliable who we think is better equipped to?" rather than a black and white "No promotion = No Deal"

 

It's obtuse thinking to get rid of someone is no one out there is capable of getting us closer on the same budget.

 

Yet a thought pattern a growing number seem to be going through.

[Babylon]

Did you see that game?  lf you did you wouldn't talk so much rubbish. Have a look on youtube or somewhere you might find it interesting.

Did you see the Cardiff away game?

[Babylon]

My opinion of him is known so l won't go on about it.

Yes he'd "one of the worst managers we've ever had".... you think anyone is going to take you remotely seriously after that?

[Dan]

His fans use any ol' rubbish to prove what a God like man he is. The only thing that counts is winning as i've said before, if he wins promotion, then he's done a good job, if he doesn't he must be and i'm sure he will be sacked.  My opinion of him is known so l won't go on about it. Lets hope he wins promotion, but l would not put one penny on him doing it.

 

You do that actually, but to the other extreme - you'll go to any length to try and play down a single thing he's done for LCFC, such as...

 

Little at least got to the finals, Pearson can't win Semi's, just saying….

 

Here's my point. We got to the play-offs over a 46 game period and yet you're writing it all off because Little got one step further - a step where Pearson has been done over by a penalty right at the death on both occasions. How ridiculous is that? You're using the finest margin to determine a far bigger gap than there actually is and it's pretty obvious you're doing it due to a dislike of him in general. How you can accuse others (far more realistic posters may I add) of using any excuse to defend him whilst chirping out this utter nonsense defies me.

 

Are you a football fan or an accountants groupie ?  Whats club finances got to do with supporting a football team, who cares, you wouldn't understand it any way, so why use it as plus points for the manager when you really have no idea if he is a genius number cruncher, which l would hazard  a guess he's nothing of the sort. Jesus !

 

Next we'll be having, on things why we need to keep him,  he keeps his trainers nice and clean Martin O'Niell and Brian Little didn't.

 

That first line sums up how simplistic you are on the whole topic. Oh aye, lets just pretend it doesn't happen, lets just ignore what's going on behind the scenes and pretend it doesn't affect what happens on the pitch in the long-term 'because we're only fans'.

 

Can appreciate that some people have other views but don't accuse others of bias when you're quite easily the most biased one here.

[Dan]

Well you posted this at 12:09 am so I suppose you're excused because it was late at night.

 

Why would we go back to mid table if we got rid of NFP?

You're assuming that all other options would be worse than NFP?

 

Considering the fact we do end up pretty high every year and that we as a club seem to have an appalling track record of managerial appointments in the past few years, I'd say there's a strong chance.

 

2011/12 and the shit that went on that year will linger over this club for years. I'd go as far to say as it held us back more than relegation to League One.

[Corky]

Are you a football fan or an accountants groupie ?  Whats club finances got to do with supporting a football team, who cares, you wouldn't understand it any way, so why use it as plus points for the manager when you really have no idea if he is a genius number cruncher, which l would hazard  a guess he's nothing of the sort. Jesus !

 

Next we'll be having, on things why we need to keep him,  he keeps his trainers nice and clean Martin O'Niell and Brian Little didn't.

 

Quite a bit actually. Remember the finances of this club nearly cost it's life just over a decade ago.

Well you posted this at 12:09 am so I suppose you're excused because it was late at night.

 

Why would we go back to mid table if we got rid of NFP?

You're assuming that all other options would be worse than NFP?

 

Who else in the last 10 years has gone beyond mid-table?

[hackneyfox]

Considering the fact we do end up pretty high every year and that we as a club seem to have an appalling track record of managerial appointments in the past few years, I'd say there's a strong chance.

 

2011/12 and the shit that went on that year will linger over this club for years. I'd go as far to say as it held us back more than relegation to League One.

 

 

 

 

Who else in the last 10 years has gone beyond mid-table?

We had an idiot as Chairmen for much of it.

If you keep worrying about what happened in the last 10 years then you'll never have the nerve to change things.

Change doesn't have to be for the worst.

 

This is all starting to feel like last year, a few people feel that things aren't going well and the reaction from a few is 'we can't get rid as look what happened in the past'. It's a tired argument.

[Dan]

We had an idiot as Chairmen for much of it.

If you keep worrying about what happened in the last 10 years then you'll never have the nerve to change things.

Change doesn't have to be for the worst.

 

This is all starting to feel like last year, a few people feel that things aren't going well and the reaction from a few is 'we can't get rid as look what happened in the past'. It's a tired argument.

 

Where-as the current one fell for the Sven hype.

 

Mind you I think they've learned as Pearson's quite clearly a better fit for the job.

 

We would do very well to attract a manager who'll take us to the next level with our situation. Hull getting Steve Bruce was an extremely shrewd move and not many sides will pull off one like it. He's grown on me more than any other manager in the last year or so.

 

Said it before but I do wonder 'what if' about that Rene Girard who even expressed a desire to join the Championship. Won Ligue 1 with a side that were equivalent to someone like Newcastle or Aston Villa in England (some decent players but tipped to be nowhere near where they ended up), has since taken over Lille and is sat in a CL spot. I'm very happy with how it's gone with Pearson this year but I do wonder if we missed a trick there.

 

If we don't go up this year, Pearson goes, and we get a manager in who takes us to the next level in the following season - then I bow down to what you've been saying. Would I have faith in Leicester City to do that? Honestly? Absolutely not.

[seenitall]

I've never wanted him here since his second spell started and I don't believe in the stability myth at all - absolute rot - very few of the big European teams ever have longstanding managers and virtually no one who has been promoted to the Prem in the past 5 years have either

 

However - if the general trend is forward rather than backwards (and by this I mean ignoring blips and losing 3 in 5 just about) then he should be given a chance to continue. Another decline like last season and he really should go because despite his worshippers belief either he or the new improved (probably) squad won't be up to it and therefore change will be needed.

 

I watched the Brighton game - so bad in the first half as to make you laugh - very positive in the second but ultimately too little too late. The next few matches will certainly decide Niges fate I think.................

[cityfanlee23]

Still stick by Neil Warnock

If Pearson gets sacked id have him in a heartbeat,

Don't care how we win (would prefer free flowing football) but how many times do we lose games by being completely outbattled?? Obviously not this season, we have been fortunate that we have not needed to be strong, but over past seasons... I don't honestly think people fear playing us like they fear playing past teams like Leeds etc

We'd be no pushovers then...

That's if you like paddy Kenny,

Brown and tonge....

Proven to be good at this level, and I've always had a soft spot for him anyway tbf...

Bit of passion, I love the good old English game, no bullshit, no fairies falling after every tackle.

If anybody fancies a good documentary on Neil warnock, it stretches back to 2006 so is outdated, but you learn a lot about the man, it's irrelevant to the thread but a good watch, remember seeing it. Few years back.

[Dan]

Wouldn't go anywhere near Warnock. Ignoring the fact it's Warnock he's past-it for me now. He'll try to sign his usual aging gang of Paddy Kenny, Michael Brown, Michael Tonge and the others. We'll play woeful, regressive, percentage football and we won't go up either. Ask any Leeds fan what they think of Warnock (this is his most recent job) and they'd tell you he's as bad as any of the shit they've had in the past few years.

 

It's a no from me.

[hackneyfox]

About 5 or 6 games in to the bad run last year I'd have sacked Pearson and taken almost anyone as I believed the players were good enough and were being let down by the managers tactics. I'd have even taken Warnock at that point but only on the understanding that when the final whistle of the season blew he was out of a job, whether he got us up or not. I think he's capable of getting the best out of a team by cajoling them, his tactics are non existant and I don't want him anywhere near the club nowadays.

 

Pearson is manager, over the season so far we're doing well, hopefully we'll get out of this current blip. For me he needs to be given the whole season unless we hit another bad run like last season then it's a matter of who may be available.

[cityfanlee23]

Wouldn't go anywhere near Warnock. Ignoring the fact it's Warnock he's past-it for me now. He'll try to sign his usual aging gang of Paddy Kenny, Michael Brown, Michael Tonge and the others. We'll play woeful, regressive, percentage football and we won't go up either. Ask any Leeds fan what they think of Warnock (this is his most recent job) and they'd tell you he's as bad as any of the shit they've had in the past few years.

It's a no from me.

Ask Leeds fans how good they are and they will tell you they are European champions ...

I'm not itk, but was told by someone who is itk at Leeds (family friend... all my family come from Leeds so that's the connection)

Was that when warnock took over they were in a complete state, and warnock steadied the ship, much like Pearson however their mess was behind the scenes, you then need to remember their squad was shit and warnock was given nothing to spend and ken bates lied about it all as he usually does.... As far as I was led to believe, warnock done a fantastic job, but just couldn't get them playing, someone else comes in now look at them , much like clough at dierby....

Obviously I am biased as I like warnock!

I think warnock has only lost around 30% of his games in his ENTIRE CAREER

Pearson has lost 28% with 1,000 less games managed

Not much of a comparison just found it interesting, a warnock side is hard to beat

[Corky]

Still stick by Neil Warnock

If Pearson gets sacked id have him in a heartbeat,

Don't care how we win (would prefer free flowing football) but how many times do we lose games by being completely outbattled?? Obviously not this season, we have been fortunate that we have not needed to be strong, but over past seasons... I don't honestly think people fear playing us like they fear playing past teams like Leeds etc

We'd be no pushovers then...

That's if you like paddy Kenny,

Brown and tonge....

Proven to be good at this level, and I've always had a soft spot for him anyway tbf...

Bit of passion, I love the good old English game, no bullshit, no fairies falling after every tackle.

If anybody fancies a good documentary on Neil warnock, it stretches back to 2006 so is outdated, but you learn a lot about the man, it's irrelevant to the thread but a good watch, remember seeing it. Few years back.

 

Are you serious? Warnock presided over a 7-3 HOME  defeat to a Nottingham Forest side managed by Steve Cotterill. Then you have the 6-1 HOME defeat by Watford last season. He lead Leeds to mid-table playing crap football, now they have a decent manager in charge who is up in a higher position.

 

He's done in management, thank God, I'd rather have someone in who is fresh, young and hungry than the blame-shifting prat who has lived off one good season with Sheffield United for years after bottling it for 6 years before then.

[cityfanlee23]

Are you serious? Warnock presided over a 7-3 HOME  defeat to a Nottingham Forest side managed by Steve Cotterill. Then you have the 6-1 HOME defeat by Watford last season. He lead Leeds to mid-table playing crap football, now they have a decent manager in charge who is up in a higher position.

 

He's done in management, thank God, I'd rather have someone in who is fresh, young and hungry than the blame-shifting prat who has lived off one good season with Sheffield United for years after bottling it for 6 years before then.

 

Yeah I am serious, 

Like I said it just my opinion, I still think he's good enough personally, 

 

And with the last comment, Let's not speak to fast eh perticularly the "Bottling it" bit!

I personally would welcome him, my opinion would probably be alone though!

[Thracian]

Whether Pearson is a good manager or not depends on the targets set by the club and his personal aims within the job.

 

Seems to me it's common ground between club and manager that the aim is promotion to the Premiership but that doesn't mean all other aspects are irrelevent or that the targets are necessarily realistic.

 

For all his upbeat talk, watching Pearson's efforts over last season and this, I'd doubt he's been satisfied very often at all because I definitely wouldn't have been. Pleased? Yes, sometimes. But satisfied? Hardly ever. 

 

And he's certainly not been successful because he's won nothing. His only "success" was in lifting us up from the lowest position we'd ever fallen to - or effectively repairing a footballing puncture.

 

What Pearson has done since is restore some of the club's credibility, manage within a more sensible financial structure, sign some acceptable players, get rid of waste as efficiently as the council binmen and put us in a position to compete.

 

That means he's categorically right that the club is in a better position for his tenure and considering this I hope he now gets the promotion he's been seeking and the chance to take the club even further in the Premiership.

 

Unfortunately I don't think either will happen because Pearson doesn't seem to be the best tactically, he doesn't seem to recognise basic shortcomings and put them right and he doesn't make the best of the players individually or collectively more than occasionally.

 

Indeed, our most frightening position in The Championship is top of the league because Pearson simply can't seem to handle it...or even having a dream chance to progress in the play-offs.

 

He gives the impression of being a ruthless, no-nonsense manager yet his team has gone out as league leaders, both this season and last, and played like rabbits caught in the headlights with no idea which way to run.

 

Why? Well, Babs will doubtless come up with some defence, but I can only conclude it's because he's just another philosophical rabbit underneath. He doesn't know which way to turn any more than his players, so he gets whacked for not committing himself to either direction.       

 

It's as if he gets altitude sickness and loses all sense of purpose.

 

Even this week we've had players carping in the papers about their contracts.

 

Bloody hell, after losing an early lead against relegation-fodder at Sheffield, there should have been no-one talking to the press about anything for a month. And certainly not about contracts.

 

Even the issue is pathetic. If the players do their best and surprise me by winning promotion it'll likely see em right for a good  contract in the future even if it's not with Leicester - and a better one, either way, than if they blow it again.

[cityfanlee23]

Whether Pearson is a good manager or not depends on the targets set by the club and his personal aims within the job.

Seems to me it's common ground between club and manager that the aim is promotion to the Premiership but that doesn't mean all other aspects are irrelevent or that the targets are necessarily realistic.

For all his upbeat talk, watching Pearson's efforts over last season and this, I'd doubt he's been satisfied very often at all because I definitely wouldn't have been. Pleased? Yes, sometimes. But satisfied? Hardly ever.

And he's certainly not been successful because he's won nothing. His only "success" was in lifting us up from the lowest position we'd ever fallen to - or effectively repairing a footballing puncture.

What Pearson has done since is restore some of the club's credibility, manage within a more sensible financial structure, sign some acceptable players, get rid of waste as efficiently as the council binmen and put us in a position to compete.

That means he's categorically right that the club is in a better position for his tenure and considering this I hope he now gets the promotion he's been seeking and the chance to take the club even further in the Premiership.

Unfortunately I don't think either will happen because Pearson doesn't seem to be the best tactically, he doesn't seem to recognise basic shortcomings and put them right and he doesn't make the best of the players individually or collectively more than occasionally.

Indeed, our most frightening position in The Championship is top of the league because Pearson simply can't seem to handle it...or even having a dream chance to progress in the play-offs.

He gives the impression of being a ruthless, no-nonsense manager yet his team has gone out as league leaders, both this season and last, and played like rabbits caught in the headlights with no idea which way to run.

Why? Well, Babs will doubtless come up with some defence, but I can only conclude it's because he's just another philosophical rabbit underneath. He doesn't know which way to turn any more than his players, so he gets whacked for not committing himself to either direction.

It's as if he gets altitude sickness and loses all sense of purpose.

Even this week we've had players carping in the papers about their contracts.

Bloody hell, after losing an early lead against relegation-fodder at Sheffield, there should have been no-one talking to the press about anything for a month. And certainly not about contracts.

Even the issue is pathetic. If the players do their best and surprise me by winning promotion it'll likely see em right for a good contract in the future even if it's not with Leicester - and a better one, either way, than if they blow it again.

Brilliant post, accurate on all accounts.

[BNET]

Whether Pearson is a good manager or not depends on the targets set by the club and his personal aims within the job.

 

Seems to me it's common ground between club and manager that the aim is promotion to the Premiership but that doesn't mean all other aspects are irrelevent or that the targets are necessarily realistic.

 

For all his upbeat talk, watching Pearson's efforts over last season and this, I'd doubt he's been satisfied very often at all because I definitely wouldn't have been. Pleased? Yes, sometimes. But satisfied? Hardly ever. 

 

And he's certainly not been successful because he's won nothing. His only "success" was in lifting us up from the lowest position we'd ever fallen to - or effectively repairing a footballing puncture.

 

What Pearson has done since is restore some of the club's credibility, manage within a more sensible financial structure, sign some acceptable players, get rid of waste as efficiently as the council binmen and put us in a position to compete.

 

That means he's categorically right that the club is in a better position for his tenure and considering this I hope he now gets the promotion he's been seeking and the chance to take the club even further in the Premiership.

 

Unfortunately I don't think either will happen because Pearson doesn't seem to be the best tactically, he doesn't seem to recognise basic shortcomings and put them right and he doesn't make the best of the players individually or collectively more than occasionally.

 

Indeed, our most frightening position in The Championship is top of the league because Pearson simply can't seem to handle it...or even having a dream chance to progress in the play-offs.

 

He gives the impression of being a ruthless, no-nonsense manager yet his team has gone out as league leaders, both this season and last, and played like rabbits caught in the headlights with no idea which way to run.

 

Why? Well, Babs will doubtless come up with some defence, but I can only conclude it's because he's just another philosophical rabbit underneath. He doesn't know which way to turn any more than his players, so he gets whacked for not committing himself to either direction.       

 

It's as if he gets altitude sickness and loses all sense of purpose.

 

Even this week we've had players carping in the papers about their contracts.

 

Bloody hell, after losing an early lead against relegation-fodder at Sheffield, there should have been no-one talking to the press about anything for a month. And certainly not about contracts.

 

Even the issue is pathetic. If the players do their best and surprise me by winning promotion it'll likely see em right for a good  contract in the future even if it's not with Leicester - and a better one, either way, than if they blow it again.

Nail on the head.

[BNET]

Did you see the Cardiff away game?

Yes l was there, whats your point ?

[The Horse's Mouth]

imo he should be sacked for not talking to Stringer #thepeopledeservetoknow

[hackneyfox]

Whether Pearson is a good manager or not depends on the targets set by the club and his personal aims within the job.

 

Seems to me it's common ground between club and manager that the aim is promotion to the Premiership but that doesn't mean all other aspects are irrelevent or that the targets are necessarily realistic.

 

For all his upbeat talk, watching Pearson's efforts over last season and this, I'd doubt he's been satisfied very often at all because I definitely wouldn't have been. Pleased? Yes, sometimes. But satisfied? Hardly ever. 

 

And he's certainly not been successful because he's won nothing. His only "success" was in lifting us up from the lowest position we'd ever fallen to - or effectively repairing a footballing puncture.

 

What Pearson has done since is restore some of the club's credibility, manage within a more sensible financial structure, sign some acceptable players, get rid of waste as efficiently as the council binmen and put us in a position to compete.

 

That means he's categorically right that the club is in a better position for his tenure and considering this I hope he now gets the promotion he's been seeking and the chance to take the club even further in the Premiership.

 

Unfortunately I don't think either will happen because Pearson doesn't seem to be the best tactically, he doesn't seem to recognise basic shortcomings and put them right and he doesn't make the best of the players individually or collectively more than occasionally.

 

Indeed, our most frightening position in The Championship is top of the league because Pearson simply can't seem to handle it...or even having a dream chance to progress in the play-offs.

 

He gives the impression of being a ruthless, no-nonsense manager yet his team has gone out as league leaders, both this season and last, and played like rabbits caught in the headlights with no idea which way to run.

 

Why? Well, Babs will doubtless come up with some defence, but I can only conclude it's because he's just another philosophical rabbit underneath. He doesn't know which way to turn any more than his players, so he gets whacked for not committing himself to either direction.       

 

It's as if he gets altitude sickness and loses all sense of purpose.

 

Even this week we've had players carping in the papers about their contracts.

 

Bloody hell, after losing an early lead against relegation-fodder at Sheffield, there should have been no-one talking to the press about anything for a month. And certainly not about contracts.

 

Even the issue is pathetic. If the players do their best and surprise me by winning promotion it'll likely see em right for a good  contract in the future even if it's not with Leicester - and a better one, either way, than if they blow it again.

Good post

[Babylon]

Yes l was there, whats your point ?

 

The same as yours.

[Babylon]

Brilliant post, accurate on all accounts.

Apart from the bit about us failing as soon as we go top, we went top last season after drawing at Brum and then beat Brighton in the next game to stay top. Obviously not that frightened.

[davieG]

Well you posted this at 12:09 am so I suppose you're excused because it was late at night.

 

Why would we go back to mid table if we got rid of NFP?

You're assuming that all other options would be worse than NFP?

You're assuming we'd be better off, either way we don't know.

 

One may as well toss a coin to decide whether to stick or twist.

 

The only way changing the manager would be seen as a success is for them to get immediate promotion, I'd like to see the odds on that.

 

I'm neither for changing or sticking because it's just a lottery, I leave it up to the whims of the owners as at least they'll know what the financial situation is because none of us do.