Benefits Street

[Soar Fox]

Who's this lesbian Jack Monroe? Looks like she's going to cry.

[Soar Fox]

lol

What the fvck am I watching. The big benefits row live.

"Give me a job innit"

[Guest MattP]

Who's this lesbian Jack Monroe? Looks like she's going to cry.

One of the butchest lesbos I've seen.

Rude, crude and vulgar. Her only intention of appearing on the show seemed to be to show us how much of a bloke she is.

Tattoos out and shouted the crudest obscenity she could, glad they took her off as I'm sure she was going to lift her leg and fart or tell us about a massive shit she has had next.

I bet she gets some weird looks even at the Guardian HQ.

[Guest MattP]

I can find out.

What's the best way to top up your benefits through mental illness?

People have often said I'm bipolar and I've always just shrugged it off.

If it's going to trouser me a few hundred quid a month no questions asked I might be assessed.

Or is it best to wait until 2015 now until Labour are back in?

[Soar Fox]

One of the butchest lesbos I've seen.

Rude, crude and vulgar. Her only intention of appearing on the show seemed to be to show us how much of a bloke she is.

Tattoos out and shouted the crudest obscenity she could, glad they took her off as I'm sure she was going to lift her leg and fart or tell us about a massive shit she has had next.

I bet she gets some weird looks even at the Guardian HQ.

She didn't seem to like Edwina Currie's comments regarding her parents and grandparents jobs.

[Guest MattP]

She didn't seem to like Edwina Currie's comments regarding her parents and grandparents jobs.

Nope, they generally don't when they are trying to pass off being poor when they actually aren't.

[Rincewind]

She has a blog called A Girl Called Jack. she gives advice on how to live on benefits. When she was desperate she sold everything in her house and went to the supermarket to buy some stuff off the last minute shelf and made her two year old son a meal. he said to her 'Wheres yours mummy?' and she replied 'I'm not hungry.

She wrote columns in her blog on how to last a week and cook healthy meals on £10 a week. She does a lot of work with charities too.

 

What do you think of her now?

 

Would you like somebody slagging your parents and grandparents off? I certainly wouldn't like a woman like Currie slagging my family off/

[Guest MattP]

She has a blog called a girl called Jack. she gives advice on how to live on benefits. When she was desperate she sold everything in her house and went to the supermarket to buy some stuff off the last minute shelf and made her two year old son a meal. he said to her 'Wheres yours mummy?' and she replied 'I'm not hungry.

She rote columns in her blog on how to last a week and cook healthy meals on £10 a week.

What do you think of her now?

That she's a vulgar, foul mouthed lesbian that writes columns for the Guardian.

Look at the full facts though ken, don't be suckered in by the mainstream media, her family has serious wealth.

She certainly won't be eating on a tenner a week.

[Guest MattP]

What do you mean 'a woman like Currie?

[Strokes]

She has a blog called a girl called Jack. she gives advice on how to live on benefits. When she was desperate she sold everything in her house and went to the supermarket to buy some stuff off the last minute shelf and made her two year old son a meal. he said to her 'Wheres yours mummy?' and she replied 'I'm not hungry.

She rote columns in her blog on how to last a week and cook healthy meals on £10 a week.

What do you think of her now?

Would you like somebody slagging your parents and grandparents off? I certainly wouldn't like a woman like Currie slagging my family off/

Shes still a cúnt.

[Rincewind]

I would not have blamed her if she had whacked Curry and that Atkins bitch. they were well out of order.

[Guest MattP]

Funniest thing about this is the Guardian capitalising on poverty porn.

Seriously, how many Guardian readers does anyone think their are out there who only have £10 a week to feed the family? if they have you would have to question the decision to spend £7 a week on papers.

Could have at least gone to the Daily Mirror.

I would not have blamed her if she had whacked Curry and that Atkins bitch. they were well out of order.

That would have just rounded the whole thing off in terms of how classy she is.

[The People's Hero]

These poverty stricken, classless, crude 'personalities' are terribly media savvy. Create a 'profile' ie the probably untrue or exaggerated account Ken has given of this woman and use that to show your virtue.

The left are just better at wheeling at their trophy shelf of dusty dusty people with lofty thoughts of their own worth. Do you get free media training on the dole now or something? It just clearly isn't true.

Maybe some of the bankers should write a piece on the hard work that put them where they are today. Might show the shirkers the benefit and value of hard work? But no, a made up story about how some crude woman sold all her possessions to feed her kid, starved herself (she looked starved right?) and did all that on ten quid a week (what about the dole money? Child benefit? Didn't she sell all her stuff?) is a much better story!

[The People's Hero]

Ps remind anyone if when Another left wing fantasist fed 5,000 people with a loaf of bread and a fish. Millions of gullible people jumped on that one too!

These wasters should probably start a religion. Maybe they would if writing a holy book wasn't sort of a requirement. Thou shalt not work!

[DennisNedry]

I saw a bit of the Benefits debate thing on Channel 5 and it really was uncomfortable to watch.

 

Channel 5 did the usual thing TV shows do. Fill the audience and stage with left wing academics and benefits claimants, then provide a laughable right wing person (Katie Hopkins is a twat) to undermine the opposition completely.

 

That fat waste of space shouting 'get me a job innit' to Edwina Curry just summed it all up.

[Rincewind]

It makes me laugh. People go on about working families that are on benefits should learn to live on less and when they do still call them cheats fraudsters etc. Have any of you read any of her blogs or recipes? As I said she created a way and recipes for around £10 per week. Is that a bad thing? you should be praising her not mocking and taking the piss out of her. It is what you wanted. The under working class living on scraps so you can live your life of luxury.

As for the bankers and high earners, I don't know how many times I have to say it. I DO NOT BEGRUDGE anyone who has worked hard to get where they are as long as they PAY THEIR TAXES like the hard working lower and middle earners. More is wasted by those that TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTRY THAT HAS NOT BEEN TAXED. This called TAX AVOIDANCE and is equal to those that play the system at the lower end. Both should be considered as cheats. Unemployed on benefits count as less than 3% loss of tax. The majority of those on benefits are MINiMUM PART TIME or ZERO CONTRACT HOURS workers.

More mortgage payers at the middle to lower earners are being sucked into hardship and struggling to pay mortgages because of rising fuel and food prices and static wages.

Do some research.

 

The majority of church goers are right wingers who go on about family values. Hypocrites.

[cambridgefox]

Bet the fur pie recipe is a bit dry!

[Rincewind]

Bet the fur pie recipe is a bit dry!

Ha ha ha

 

You can comment and tell her she is a liar here.

Remember though that libel is applicable through social media too.

 

http://agirlcalledjack.com/

 

This a thank you message to Edwina Currie from Jack Monroe.

 

http://agirlcalledjack.com/2014/02/04/dear-edwina-thankyou-for-last-night-i-hope-it-was-as-good-for-you-as-it-was-for-me-bigbenefitsrow/

[Strokes]

Ha ha ha

You can comment and tell her she is a liar here.

Remember though that libel is applicable through social media too.

http://agirlcalledjack.com/

This a thank you message to Edwina Currie from Jack Monroe.

http://agirlcalledjack.com/2014/02/04/dear-edwina-thankyou-for-last-night-i-hope-it-was-as-good-for-you-as-it-was-for-me-bigbenefitsrow/

Thanks for that, Ken as you accept that you can feed a hungry family for £10 per week, will you stop going on about eating or heating?

[Captain...]

Ha ha ha

 

You can comment and tell her she is a liar here.

Remember though that libel is applicable through social media too.

 

http://agirlcalledjack.com/

 

This a thank you message to Edwina Currie from Jack Monroe.

 

http://agirlcalledjack.com/2014/02/04/dear-edwina-thankyou-for-last-night-i-hope-it-was-as-good-for-you-as-it-was-for-me-bigbenefitsrow/

 

She didn't come off very well on the show, possibly because she is not media savvy and let Edwina Currie rattle her, coupled with Wright not giving anyone time to really make a point.

 

That reponse to Edwina is hopefully a better reflection of who she is when she isn't under pressure on live TV being shouted over.

 

 

Did you stop to think for one moment how you might have made my family feel? My nan, my mum, my dad, all people who dearly love the man whose life and death you used in a live television debate last night to try to unsettle your opponent? Of course you didn’t.

 

I was asked to sell my life rights to a movie director last week. I refused on two counts.

 

1. I’m not that interesting. As proved by you, when the biggest scandal you can dig up is that I used to drink Aldi lemonade with my grandad at his guest house.

 

2. I’m not an island. My life is interwoven with complex relationships, as are all of ours. Having been subjected to professional trolling for over a year now, I would never put my family through those levels of abuse. I get death threats. Rape threats. Personal attacks on my weight, appearance, sexuality, education, lack thereof. So I try to retain a degree of privacy, for the ordinary people on the periphery of the right wing media monstering of Jack Monroe. If you love someone, you don’t throw them into a bear pit.

 

If you’d have been willing to listen, you’d have realised how spectacularly you missed the point.

 

Poverty can happen to anyone. That’s why I unsettle you and your cronies. Because the Tory party rhetoric of ‘work hard and get on’ can fall apart in the blink of an eyelid. I worked hard. I got on. And I still spent a year and a half scrabbling around in a festering pit of depression, joblessness, benefit delays and suspensions, hunger, and the entrenching, gut wrenching fear that I was failing as a parent.

I’ve never claimed anywhere that my family were “poorâ€. They weren’t “rich†either. I’m not really sure what they were, which I guess makes them quite ordinary. As a child, I had dinner on the table and always had clean clothes. We had a holiday a year in a caravan in Devon or Yorkshire, and the occasional foray to Ireland.

 

I went to a grammar school, not with any coaching or private tuition, I just sat the entrance exam aged 10 and was offered a place. It was hardly Eton. I struggled at that school, grades gradually getting worse each year, until I dropped out with not enough GCSEs to take A Levels. I went to work, in a shop, at the age of 16. No degree, no Oxbridge education, no feet on ladders, no family business to inherit – just me and about £5.85 an hour.

 

But Thankyou, for giving me the opportunity to set the record straight about my upbringing live on air.

 

 

She let herself down by swearing at her, but her point is a valid one, poverty can strike anyone, it is not just a case of work hard and you'll be OK, which is why I get annoyed at the dismissive nature of some of the comments, "just get off your arse and get a job." It's such a simplified view of the world.

[Merging Cultures]

The majority of church goers are right wingers who go on about family values. Hypocrites.

 

Grr. I don't want to be the preacher on this website but I can't let that slide! Yes, a number of vocal churchgoers bang on about family values but I disagree it is the majority. Jesus was the ultimate lefty and the bible promotes heavily justice for the vulnerable.

 

James 1:27

The Message (MSG)

26-27 Anyone who sets himself up as “religious†by talking a good game is self-deceived. This kind of religion is hot air and only hot air. Real religion, the kind that passes muster before God the Father, is this: Reach out to the homeless and loveless in their plight, and guard against corruption from the godless world.

 

And again The Parable of the Good Samaritan: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37&version=MSG

 

While Jesus wanted to look after the vulnerable and those who could not support themselves, it is also evident that the lazy will not prosper and are not tolerated. See Matthew 25: 14-30 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A14-30&version=MSG

[Webbo]

She didn't come off very well on the show, possibly because she is not media savvy and let Edwina Currie rattle her, coupled with Wright not giving anyone time to really make a point.

 

That reponse to Edwina is hopefully a better reflection of who she is when she isn't under pressure on live TV being shouted over.

 

 

She let herself down by swearing at her, but her point is a valid one, poverty can strike anyone, it is not just a case of work hard and you'll be OK, which is why I get annoyed at the dismissive nature of some of the comments, "just get off your arse and get a job." It's such a simplified view of the world.

So she goes on TV to be offensive to people she disagrees with but she thinks no one has a right to offend her?

 

She's made a career for herself as a victim, I think it's legitimate for someone to question that.

[Alf Bentley]

 

Grr. I don't want to be the preacher on this website but I can't let that slide! Yes, a number of vocal churchgoers bang on about family values but I disagree it is the majority. Jesus was the ultimate lefty and the bible promotes heavily justice for the vulnerable.

 

James 1:27

The Message (MSG)

26-27 Anyone who sets himself up as “religious†by talking a good game is self-deceived. This kind of religion is hot air and only hot air. Real religion, the kind that passes muster before God the Father, is this: Reach out to the homeless and loveless in their plight, and guard against corruption from the godless world.

 

And again The Parable of the Good Samaritan: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37&version=MSG

 

While Jesus wanted to look after the vulnerable and those who could not support themselves, it is also evident that the lazy will not prosper and are not tolerated. See Matthew 25: 14-30 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A14-30&version=MSG

 

 

"Anyone....talking a good game is self-deceived"; "hot air and only hot air"?!? 

They've certainly modernised the Bible since the versions that I saw as a child.

 

Despite being an atheist, I agree with your point, though. I always liked the sound of Jesus and would see him as a sort of radical philosopher / moral & political activist. God comes across like a right brutal autocrat, though. Jesus obviously rebelled against his Dad! 

 

You're right to challenge Rincewind's condemnation of a "majority" of churchgoers. Christians can be sincere and generous, moderately human or hypocritical and judgmental....just like atheists, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists and everyone else.

 

Even as an atheist and being aware of the negatives of religious indoctrination and abuse, I'm not at all convinced that Godless materialism is better for us than a continued domination of Christianity would have been.... 

[Captain...]

So she goes on TV to be offensive to people she disagrees with but she thinks no one has a right to offend her?

 

She's made a career for herself as a victim, I think it's legitimate for someone to question that.

 

She didn't go on TV to be offensive, she went on TV to be involved in a debate, before she got a chance to make a point Currie was shouting over her about her dead Grandad. She lost her temper, which she shouldn't have done, but I understand it in the face of provocation about her family. Currie set about trying to discredit her, not to debate the issue, but to tell her her opinion is invalid because she comes from a rich background. It was pathetic from Currie, but pretty much summed up the entire show, any point from either side got lost in a sea of shouting and name calling. The only person who came out of it with any credit is the first man from the school on Benefits Street.

 

I think her response on her blog is a considered and fair response which she wasn't afforded on the show, surely she should be applauded for battling out of poverty and making something of herself through hard work, and is now trying to help others.

[Webbo]

 

 

The majority of church goers are right wingers who go on about family values. Hypocrites.

Anyone think Ken would have said this about Muslims?

 

 

Even as an atheist and being aware of the negatives of religious indoctrination and abuse, I'm not at all convinced that Godless materialism is better for us than a continued domination of Christianity would have been.... 

I agree with this word for word.