The Naysayers and Pessimists

[Mark_from_USA]

 

 

weren't we top last January as well?

 

No.  Last year you would have traded places with Cardiff, maybe even Hull or Watford and given yourself a better chances.  This year, who would you trade places with?  Even if you lump in the bottom 4 or 5 in the PL:, who would you trade with?  Fulham?  Norwich?  Cardiff? Considering the overall club position (table, wages, ownership, playing squad, academy etc), you have to laud what the management has in place right now.  Of course a 10 year absence has been a bad time.  But the future looks pretty good, to the credit of the people in charge right now.

[seenitall]

'Me neither and so we may get a manager of the calibre we deserve if we get up.'

 

It's funny you should mention Chelsea because you seem to think that's who we are. You certainly sound like a Chelsea fan. What calibre of manager should we get?  Cos I've got news for you deary, there aren't a great many consistent managers out there, and there will be few out of that small selection who will be desperate for the Leicester job.

 

I don't really want you associated with my club tbh. You're a spoilt brat of a 'fan' who can't see a good thing when we've got it. You think we deserve a better calibre manager, well I'm afraid you're not living in the real world there, mate.

 

Frankly, on the field, I couldn't be happier. And I'm not bothered about next season right now. We live in the present. At present Pearson's doing great, and if he gets us up there'll be no one more deserving of a full Premiership season in charge. And if he leaves, we'll have a short list of managers with questionable records to choose from.

 

I emplore you to go an support Chelsea with all the other miserable, arrogant, unrealistic halfwits who seemed to have only started watching football in the last 10 years. Because if you carry on with the same attitude for your Leicester-supporting life, you'll never, ever be happy. And I can 100% guarantee you of that.

Mostly wrong from you and based on much supposition. Rather than being so blinkered as to see this as disatisfaction with our last 6 wins, are you not able to grasp that the thread has evolved into something of a discussion about NP's standing in a historical context within the clubs managers?

There is no one I know, including me, who is not delighted, happy, pleased for NP and the owners, that we are top. Its Roy of the Rovers stuff because several of the performers this year have been transformed from dreadful players less than a year ago and NP bears virtually no resemblance to the man of 10 months ago - to those who believed I say well done, but in another thread there are planty who are honest enough to say they lost faith in him ( you as well?)

So once again, stop being horrible and accept that there are fans who love Leicester City every bit as much as you believe you do but who see the club as having vastly underperformed, lost our ability to attract top flight managers and players ( and NP certainly wouldnt be here had this not been the case 26 months ago) and that believing we are a displaced Premier League team, being less impressed by achieving what Doncaster, Peterborough, Millwall, yeovil and MkDons achieve by getting out if Div 3 is delusional and try enjoying the first glimpse of who we really are in 11 years without being self righteous

[Haydos]

Surely believing that NP is a great manager when he was clearly out of his depth a year or o ago is equally arrogant. TBH I don't really care about him at all, only the club so if we go up and he does well I guess he'll stay and I'll be happy that we are doing well (as I am at the moment) but the protectionism of him on here is shocking, to the point that when he was clearly losing the plot, people still believed - IN WHAT??? I couldn't see it - that he has started to get it right after a few years is great but nearly going up is not going up - he needs to deliver and for that reason the jury is still out - weren't we top last January as well?

 

As for not posting v posting - there is no way you can get that one right is there - I have never been one to post silly pictures or just say hooray all the time so tend to back off when we are doing well - perhaps that is what will win me some cudles eh, just posting COYB and In Nige We Treust ad nauseum like some of the fellas on here

 

COYB

IN Nige We Trust!!

 

       

 

It's not the Pearson bashing that does it for me, it's the fact that you're in the process of being proven wrong and being proven your opinion is very extreme. Fair enough you've been underwhelmed by him but your lack of vision has made you look slightly foolish.

 

Again you're repeating this in saying that he's just going to fail if we go up. There's no way I can argue that yet obviously but the ridicule comes from you showing no support, offering no better options, and doubting a guy that has now got us a clear lead at the top. It's just like there is no pleasing you that's all.

[MC Prussian]

Mostly wrong from you and based on much supposition. Rather than being so blinkered as to see this as disatisfaction with our last 6 wins, are you not able to grasp that the thread has evolved into something of a discussion about NP's standing in a historical context within the clubs managers?

There is no one I know, including me, who is not delighted, happy, pleased for NP and the owners, that we are top. Its Roy of the Rovers stuff because several of the performers this year have been transformed from dreadful players less than a year ago and NP bears virtually no resemblance to the man of 10 months ago - to those who believed I say well done, but in another thread there are planty who are honest enough to say they lost faith in him ( you as well?)

So once again, stop being horrible and accept that there are fans who love Leicester City every bit as much as you believe you do but who see the club as having vastly underperformed, lost our ability to attract top flight managers and players ( and NP certainly wouldnt be here had this not been the case 26 months ago) and that believing we are a displaced Premier League team, being less impressed by achieving what Doncaster, Peterborough, Millwall, yeovil and MkDons achieve by getting out if Div 3 is delusional and try enjoying the first glimpse of who we really are in 11 years without being self righteous

Like I said before, I can see where you're coming from. However, you're a tad bit late with this criticism.

I'm by no means an expert in that matter, but to me it seems most (if not all) of the major players who had their part in our rather mediocre to disastrous and tumultuous five to six years straight after relegation from the Premier League have all left the club.

 

Maybe you're better off writing them all a letter individually.

 

The majority of the staff, the players as well as the manager and the owners have all changed. They current crop bear little to no responsibility to what happened prior to their arrival at the club.

 

It's ok to dwell in the past, but me personally, bearing all this in mind, I'd rather focus on the present and the future instead.

[_Fatboyslow_]

'Me neither and so we may get a manager of the calibre we deserve if we get up.'

It's funny you should mention Chelsea because you seem to think that's who we are. You certainly sound like a Chelsea fan. What calibre of manager should we get? Cos I've got news for you deary, there aren't a great many consistent managers out there, and there will be few out of that small selection who will be desperate for the Leicester job.

I don't really want you associated with my club tbh. You're a spoilt brat of a 'fan' who can't see a good thing when we've got it. You think we deserve a better calibre manager, well I'm afraid you're not living in the real world there, mate.

Frankly, on the field, I couldn't be happier. And I'm not bothered about next season right now. We live in the present. At present Pearson's doing great, and if he gets us up there'll be no one more deserving of a full Premiership season in charge. And if he leaves, we'll have a short list of managers with questionable records to choose from.

I emplore you to go an support Chelsea with all the other miserable, arrogant, unrealistic halfwits who seemed to have only started watching football in the last 10 years. Because if you carry on with the same attitude for your Leicester-supporting life, you'll never, ever be happy. And I can 100% guarantee you of that.

Nicely put, I for one think he should crawl back under his stone

[RumbleFox]

Surely believing that NP is a great manager when he was clearly out of his depth a year or o ago is equally arrogant. TBH I don't really care about him at all, only the club so if we go up and he does well I guess he'll stay and I'll be happy that we are doing well (as I am at the moment) but the protectionism of him on here is shocking, to the point that when he was clearly losing the plot, people still believed - IN WHAT??? I couldn't see it - that he has started to get it right after a few years is great but nearly going up is not going up - he needs to deliver and for that reason the jury is still out - weren't we top last January as well?

 

As for not posting v posting - there is no way you can get that one right is there - I have never been one to post silly pictures or just say hooray all the time so tend to back off when we are doing well - perhaps that is what will win me some cudles eh, just posting COYB and In Nige We Treust ad nauseum like some of the fellas on here

 

COYB

IN Nige We Trust!!

 

       

Hello again sweet prince

 

The thing is, I didn't say he was the best manager in the world a year ago and was not arrogant I just said I felt he should be given more time.  There is a difference between saying "I love Nigel Pearson, he is God and can do nothing wrong and I want to stroke his undoubtedly mammoth donger" and simply sticking by him last year and thinking "well this is a bit shite but I can see there are mitigating circumstances and I believe we should give him one more chance".  MON, Wenger, even Fergie got loads of stick at one point in their careers and, judged on a small section of their tenure, could be seen as failures.  Sometimes these small failures lead to a longer period of failure and a manager has to go.  However sometimes a good manager can have a bad period which I believe is what happened last year.  I may be wrong but I do think it was justified that we were patient and gave him time.

 

Also, you seem to believe Pearson has changed but to be honest I think he is the same but has just learnt a wee bit.  Maybe he hasn't changed all that much since last year (I always thought he came across well in interviews, from the start.  A little dour maybe but honest and likeable) and maybe it might be that you were wrong about him? Maybe you got an idea in your head and were a tiny bit blinkered.  It happens.  I told myself I hated baked beans for 27 years then tried them and by dangit!  if I don’t eat them every day now!  Actually, now you ask, it worries me a little.  Can they turn you orange?  I seem to look permanently spray tanned?

 

Folk say that criticism was due and fair at the time and yes, we were shite, but the level and manner of some criticism is certainly out of order.  If you had a period in your job where you were performing badly you may expect a talking to and a warning and maybe even to be released if it continued.  However you may feel hard done by if people were saying "you are a w&nker and boring and you NEED to go and you are a terrible person and I hate you I hate you I hate you!  You beast you beast you beast!".  You may not have one that far but some folk just make themselves look silly with the pre teen insults that come out of their mouths.

 

Also, jumping on the team and posting every two minutes when we lose and going quiet when we win may seem like simply not being a happy clappy Pearson bummer to you but if you take a step back and view it from a little further away surely you can see why some folk might construe it as revelling a little in failure?  I am not saying you are doing that but surely you can admit that it is not a total leap of the imagination to see why it may look a little like that sometimes?

 

Anyway, we all love Leicester hopefully and just show it in different ways I suppose.  I have said before, I am glad I stuck by Pearson at the time and I thought some of the criticism was, whilst maybe valid, far far too vitriolic.  I just cannot enjoy bile as much as some people seem to.

 

Come on you beautiful foxes!  I love ya Nige.  You and your swinging Mandingo sized member.

 

Rumble.

[Manwell Pablo]

Ahhh, now who's getting sensitive..........you can't ruffle me you young wippersnapper you, have a werthers and enjoy the ride

 

 

God no, please don't let him f**k it up, we'll never get rid of him if we don't get promoted

 

 

No need to be nasty, I was invited to this thread

PS - if completely missing the ball is now called an assist the game is changing

 

Someone had a drink Saturday night

[seenitall]

Hello again sweet prince

 

The thing is, I didn't say he was the best manager in the world a year ago and was not arrogant I just said I felt he should be given more time.  There is a difference between saying "I love Nigel Pearson, he is God and can do nothing wrong and I want to stroke his undoubtedly mammoth donger" and simply sticking by him last year and thinking "well this is a bit shite but I can see there are mitigating circumstances and I believe we should give him one more chance".  MON, Wenger, even Fergie got loads of stick at one point in their careers and, judged on a small section of their tenure, could be seen as failures.  Sometimes these small failures lead to a longer period of failure and a manager has to go.  However sometimes a good manager can have a bad period which I believe is what happened last year.  I may be wrong but I do think it was justified that we were patient and gave him time.

 

Also, you seem to believe Pearson has changed but to be honest I think he is the same but has just learnt a wee bit.  Maybe he hasn't changed all that much since last year (I always thought he came across well in interviews, from the start.  A little dour maybe but honest and likeable) and maybe it might be that you were wrong about him? Maybe you got an idea in your head and were a tiny bit blinkered.  It happens.  I told myself I hated baked beans for 27 years then tried them and by dangit!  if I don’t eat them every day now!  Actually, now you ask, it worries me a little.  Can they turn you orange?  I seem to look permanently spray tanned?

 

Folk say that criticism was due and fair at the time and yes, we were shite, but the level and manner of some criticism is certainly out of order.  If you had a period in your job where you were performing badly you may expect a talking to and a warning and maybe even to be released if it continued.  However you may feel hard done by if people were saying "you are a w&nker and boring and you NEED to go and you are a terrible person and I hate you I hate you I hate you!  You beast you beast you beast!".  You may not have one that far but some folk just make themselves look silly with the pre teen insults that come out of their mouths.

 

Also, jumping on the team and posting every two minutes when we lose and going quiet when we win may seem like simply not being a happy clappy Pearson bummer to you but if you take a step back and view it from a little further away surely you can see why some folk might construe it as revelling a little in failure?  I am not saying you are doing that but surely you can admit that it is not a total leap of the imagination to see why it may look a little like that sometimes?

 

Anyway, we all love Leicester hopefully and just show it in different ways I suppose.  I have said before, I am glad I stuck by Pearson at the time and I thought some of the criticism was, whilst maybe valid, far far too vitriolic.  I just cannot enjoy bile as much as some people seem to.

 

Come on you beautiful foxes!  I love ya Nige.  You and your swinging Mandingo sized member.

 

Rumble.

 I'm down with this...it's the only reason I'm posting now really but even that seems to backfire - usually when we are doing well I am happy to just go with it and enjoy the moment - I sometimes come on here while in France because the match thread updates quicker than the BBC - I think of the board as a place to criticise rather than just keep saying COYB so when I am not here you can rest assured I am not miserable - I have also managed to resist posting during blips such as the one before this run (just about anyway).

 

As for the drinking comment - dry January fella - 

[Manwell Pablo]

 I'm down with this...it's the only reason I'm posting now really but even that seems to backfire - usually when we are doing well I am happy to just go with it and enjoy the moment - I sometimes come on here while in France because the match thread updates quicker than the BBC - I think of the board as a place to criticise rather than just keep saying COYB so when I am not here you can rest assured I am not miserable - I have also managed to resist posting during blips such as the one before this run (just about anyway).

 

As for the drinking comment - dry January fella - 

 

Just another one of your annoying quirks "four and a half seasons of failure etc etc"

 

This must include the League One season, whilst I will admit, despite the fact that teams like Leads and Forest battled for a few season's to get out of there, we were the best team in the division and it wasn't a spectacular achievement to get us out of there (getting us into the play offs the following season was however but that's off topic) you do know it was impossible for him to do any better than that? You can't regard it as a failed season he did the job.

[The Man In Black]

Brilliant season. Absolutely nothing to be unsettled about. Every players has been the best.

[seenitall]

Just another one of your annoying quirks "four and a half seasons of failure etc etc"

 

This must include the League One season, whilst I will admit, despite the fact that teams like Leads and Forest battled for a few season's to get out of there, we were the best team in the division and it wasn't a spectacular achievement to get us out of there (getting us into the play offs the following season was however but that's off topic) you do know it was impossible for him to do any better than that? You can't regard it as a failed season he did the job.

 That we failed for four and a half seasons with our array of managers is bad enough but you do know Hull finished lower than us in NP's first season and where only a point or two ahead whenSGE was fired - and SGE was a failure by most peoples standards...so we didn't get promoted year one after coming up (although it was a reasonable effort) we didn't get up year 2, were nowhere near in year three and didn't make it in year four - and were third at Xmas this year (still not up). Nige similarly didn't get promoted in year one, was nowhere near in year two or three and scraped the play offs in year four 

 

Not much glory in any of that for me (but lots of building so that's alright) I would rather be signing Jelavic and Huddlestone though and who knows, perhaps next year we will be able to

[Bluetintedspecs]

 That we failed for four and a half seasons with our array of managers is bad enough but you do know Hull finished lower than us in NP's first season and where only a point or two ahead whenSGE was fired - and SGE was a failure by most peoples standards...so we didn't get promoted year one after coming up (although it was a reasonable effort) we didn't get up year 2, were nowhere near in year three and didn't make it in year four - and were third at Xmas this year (still not up). Nige similarly didn't get promoted in year one, was nowhere near in year two or three and scraped the play offs in year four 

 

Not much glory in any of that for me (but lots of building so that's alright) I would rather be signing Jelavic and Huddlestone though and who knows, perhaps next year we will be able to

It's definitely evolution not creation seenitall. I appreciate your touch of humility in earlier posts and quite frankly, although some not all of your views are vastly different to mine, I do not doubt for one minute your passion for our club though others might! A forum is surely a place that should accomodate polar opposites, a bit of banter,spice and mild abuse. Football has always been highly emotive since way before the technical revolution. The days of discussing the game in the pub after being at the game led to heated exchanges as will this place sometimes. And just for you mate COYB

[Leicester_Numan]

I understand your sentiment but you've completely obliterated 2 whole decades from our history there. The majority of the 60s and 70s under Gillies and Bloomfield were spent in the top flight, and we were just as established a top flight side then than under O'Neill, arguably more, we had better players for the relative era and stayed there longer.

O'Neill's achievements are always talked about but that was more to do with them being in the Premiership era. It annoys me when people call us yoyo club, when in most people's living memory we've actually yoyoed very little. Up-down-up or down-up-down 3 times in about 50 years is hardly yoyoing. We've had a couple of long spells out the top flight and a couple of long spells in it.

I think the second bit in bold sums it up though.

Yo-yoing between divisions has no timeframe, it simply means at some point we'll go up and at some point we'll come back down again. Rinse and repeat. It doesn't have to be in consecutive seasons. Historically, we go up, we come back down, we go back up, we come back down. Sounds like a yo-yo to me

[Finnaldo]

I think the problem here is that we spend so much time lambasting each other rather than actually reading what others post. I'm guilty of this myself.

I think the problem with seenitall is that he sees the way people express themselves on here differently to the posters themselves.

Seenitall's main argument is that we're underachieving, and that people on here seem to accept it rather than want to push on. Obviously, I'm almost certain when I say virtually ALL Leicester fans want to see us back in the Prem. The last ten years have been poor measuring from the last thirty years and generally the manager at the time has had restraints or just been totally incompetent which has led to us remaining in the Championship. However, this season it seems it might change and we will get to the promised land, which seenitall openly accepts.

However, I think it's the difference between realistic views and passion that sets seenitall apart. He wants us to up there with the big boys competing for the ticket to Europe, which again is what all Leicester fans want, but is also seenitall's realistic aim. Basing that on the last 20 years, it is an aim that on paper seems to make sense. We did it just 10 years ago, now we're back on our feet, why not again?

Most people on here, however, base their realistic aims on the last 10 years. We've really struggled with various issues and events and personnel so just consolidating a Prem spot and building from there. This is where I sit, having followed Leicester properly since about the 2005/06 season.

As seenitall has stated before, he's supported City for 40 years, and obviously the best part of these 10 years have been the lowest point in our history. Obviously seenitall has taken this a different way to most people on the forum and is desperate for former glories, as we all are, but at a faster rate to make up for the last 10 years of shite.

Hopefully Pearson will get us to where we want to be, but in the mean time, we should all be allowed to post our views on City and how it's run without being beat down on it. We're on a forum, it's meant to air opposing views to discuss, not constantly create threads or criticise because "it's the same old git posting rubbish again".

So, come on you Foxes

[Harry - LCFC]

Its Roy of the Rovers stuff because several of the performers this year have been transformed from dreadful players less than a year ago and NP bears virtually no resemblance to the man of 10 months ago - to those who believed I say well done, but in another thread there are planty who are honest enough to say they lost faith in him ( you as well?)

 

It isn't Roy of the Rovers stuff at all. It's a slight surprise to me and that's it.

 

The players last year have not been transformed that greatly, they were not "dreadful" - they finished 6th remember? I know why you've said that though, you're referring to that eleven game run when we were very poor indeed. The trouble is that those games were not representative of our season so it isn't fair to focus only on those games. The same applies to Pearson, 6th to 1st is nothing overly spectacular IMO.

 

You have to look at the whole season, otherwise you come to the wrong conclusion as you have done. Expect people to have less respect for you if you choose to be so unfairly selective in your analysis. This isn't a moan, just me trying to criticise fairly.

[Finnaldo]

...otherwise you come to the wrong conclusion as you have done.

How can someone's opinion be wrong?

It just seems like everyone gangs up on him because he has extreme views on the team.

If that's his choice, let him be, don't tell him his view is wrong, because its just as wrong as yours is.

[Harry - LCFC]

How can someone's opinion be wrong?

It just seems like everyone gangs up on him because he has extreme views on the team.

If that's his choice, let him be, don't tell him his view is wrong, because its just as wrong as yours is.

 

Ok 'wrong' wasn't the right word. 'Misleading' would've been better. I'm fairly sure he's focusing on our worst period of the season when he says our players were "dreadful" - the basic point I was trying to get across was that this wasn't a fair way of assessing the team.

 

If he wasn't doing that and thinks the players were awful over the entire season then yeah I can't say he's wrong, I can only disagree.

[Oxfordfox83]

How can someone's opinion be wrong?

It just seems like everyone gangs up on him because he has extreme views on the team.

If that's his choice, let him be, don't tell him his view is wrong, because its just as wrong as yours is.

Sorry, you've got my pet hate there. Opinions can be wrong, this isn't nursery. If your opinion is that Forest are objectively the best side in the country now, your opinion is wrong. If you believe straw is a better building material than brick for keeping out big bad wolves, wrong. If you believe that the best thing for the club last summer was to sell Vardy, DD and Dyer and sack Pearson, well it's not looking like you were right, is it?

Opinion on whether your six year old is more gifted than Picasso is not tangible, so minority belief as it might be, it's not wrong. There are some opinions that can be wrong, and seenitall expressed a lot of them during 2013.

[Manwell Pablo]

'Me neither and so we may get a manager of the calibre we deserve if we get up.'

 

It's funny you should mention Chelsea because you seem to think that's who we are. You certainly sound like a Chelsea fan. What calibre of manager should we get?  Cos I've got news for you deary, there aren't a great many consistent managers out there, and there will be few out of that small selection who will be desperate for the Leicester job.

 

I don't really want you associated with my club tbh. You're a spoilt brat of a 'fan' who can't see a good thing when we've got it. You think we deserve a better calibre manager, well I'm afraid you're not living in the real world there, mate.

 

Frankly, on the field, I couldn't be happier. And I'm not bothered about next season right now. We live in the present. At present Pearson's doing great, and if he gets us up there'll be no one more deserving of a full Premiership season in charge. And if he leaves, we'll have a short list of managers with questionable records to choose from.

 

I emplore you to go an support Chelsea with all the other miserable, arrogant, unrealistic halfwits who seemed to have only started watching football in the last 10 years. Because if you carry on with the same attitude for your Leicester-supporting life, you'll never, ever be happy. And I can 100% guarantee you of that.

 

Hahahaha, great post. 

[The Man In Black]

Is this a competition to see who can post the longest post? I think I lost

[Raw Dykes]

Sorry, you've got my pet hate there. Opinions can be wrong, this isn't nursery. If your opinion is that Forest are objectively the best side in the country now, your opinion is wrong. If you believe straw is a better building material than brick for keeping out big bad wolves, wrong. If you believe that the best thing for the club last summer was to sell Vardy, DD and Dyer and sack Pearson, well it's not looking like you were right, is it?

Opinion on whether your six year old is more gifted than Picasso is not tangible, so minority belief as it might be, it's not wrong. There are some opinions that can be wrong, and seenitall expressed a lot of them during 2013.

Agreed. I understand seenitall's frustration at the club spending a decade outside the top flight and dipping into the third tied for the first time ever. I can understand his frustration at seeing "happy clappers" "toeing the party line", satisfied at what he sees as very minor steps toward where we should be. I think you should keep an eye on the big picture, i.e. where the club should aim for based on the historical average, but I think it's more important to focus on the here and now, and also to bear in mind the club's current financial standing. I'll judge our success based on our league position relative to our bank balance. Nothing else.

Seenitall appears to judge the club's success mainly on how famous the staff's names are. If not that, then there has to be some other irrelevant, arbitrary criteria that he deems crucial. How else can anyone possibly explain his exteme dislike for NP, even now, while being so forgiving towards SGE? He calls everything NP has done here so far a failure, but says "most people" consider Sven a failure, i.e. he doesn't.

I've got news for you - fame doesn't equal ability. It's possible for people to enjoy success and make a name for themselves before getting lazy or 'losing their mojo'. At the same time, there was a time in every successful person's career when nobody had heard of him.

You've said you hope we go up so that we can get rid of Pearson. I'd like to think this is a joke, but sadly, I know better. How does this make sense to you? We've been outside the Prem for 10 years, and you want to get rid of the man who would fix that. To a lot of fans, NP is clearly the most talented manager we've been lucky to have since MON, and rightly so. I'm telling you now, the day we lose NP will be a sad one for the club. Who do you seriously think we're going to get as a replacement? Chances are, overwhelmingly so, that we'll end up with a lesser manager.

I'm convinced you'd be happier seeing the club battling relegation in the Championship with a world-famous manager and big name players, than you would if we were mid table in the prem with NP and a bunch of 'no-mark' players. Ask yourself how your opinion of NP would change should he be poached by a big club.

[MC Prussian]

Renardntf, fuchsntf, foxntf, zorrontf, lomrintf, volpentf.......its all greek to me.

What does the "ntf" stand for?

[Bluetintedspecs]

I think the problem here is that we spend so much time lambasting each other rather than actually reading what others post. I'm guilty of this myself.

I think the problem with seenitall is that he sees the way people express themselves on here differently to the posters themselves.

Seenitall's main argument is that we're underachieving, and that people on here seem to accept it rather than want to push on. Obviously, I'm almost certain when I say virtually ALL Leicester fans want to see us back in the Prem. The last ten years have been poor measuring from the last thirty years and generally the manager at the time has had restraints or just been totally incompetent which has led to us remaining in the Championship. However, this season it seems it might change and we will get to the promised land, which seenitall openly accepts.

However, I think it's the difference between realistic views and passion that sets seenitall apart. He wants us to up there with the big boys competing for the ticket to Europe, which again is what all Leicester fans want, but is also seenitall's realistic aim. Basing that on the last 20 years, it is an aim that on paper seems to make sense. We did it just 10 years ago, now we're back on our feet, why not again?

Most people on here, however, base their realistic aims on the last 10 years. We've really struggled with various issues and events and personnel so just consolidating a Prem spot and building from there. This is where I sit, having followed Leicester properly since about the 2005/06 season.

As seenitall has stated before, he's supported City for 40 years, and obviously the best part of these 10 years have been the lowest point in our history. Obviously seenitall has taken this a different way to most people on the forum and is desperate for former glories, as we all are, but at a faster rate to make up for the last 10 years of shite.

Hopefully Pearson will get us to where we want to be, but in the mean time, we should all be allowed to post our views on City and how it's run without being beat down on it. We're on a forum, it's meant to air opposing views to discuss, not constantly create threads or criticise because "it's the same old git posting rubbish again".

So, come on you Foxes

That's exactly how I see it Finnaldo, as posted earlier! Not everything is totally black and white and I respect seenitalls desire for the best. At times the delivery of his frustration has come across as being a WUM, revelling in our failure or as suggested by some not even a fan of our club. I like you read it as passion, desire for the best and retalliation to being lambasted for his views. Let's face it, none of us are immune from making twatty statements.

[Dan]

Can't help but feel though that you'd rather be right and we don't get promoted, rather than wrong and we do.

 

My exact sentiments.

[Dan]

Didn't say we'd remotely looked like going up but the failures after Adams was ousted were diabolical and we should have been challenging immediately afterwards.....the last 6 or 7 years have been a joke all round, the saddest thing being the lowering ( by the club no less) of the fans expectations - there have never been a more easily satisfied bunch of line toe- ers in the history of the club (well in the 40 years I have been following). We seem to be turning it around now but 11 years FFS

 

It's called not dwelling on the past. No-one is happy that it's taken this long but there's no point in looking at what might have been. Absolutely none at all.

 

Pearson's had a defence because he's the only one who's turned us into a side that's looked close to doing it.