The Naysayers and Pessimists

[Guest Bilo]

Considering the form we are in and the form we have shown throughout the first half of the season, it will take a monumental collapse (that is impossible to rule out)

Fact is with 20 games to play we are on 57 points. 90 points is usually enough so if we win 10 of the remaining 20 we will be there or there abouts. I think 10 wins out of those games is very achievable.

The fact that we play next Saturday and our nearer rivals do not, meals we could have a 9pt gap to third next Saturday at 5pm.

I fancy us to do it in style and break the 100 point barrier. COYB

 

A 9 point gap to third followed by trips to Birmingham, who are struggling to win at home, and Bournemouth. 

 

Who do QPR and Burnley play on the same day we play Bournemouth?

 

Yep, that's right. Each other.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Blimey, promoted in January is a first but well done Nige......actually, well done Nige, this is the first time in four seasons you have looked anything like as good as your followers said you were and I am mighty glad to see it.

While I am happy to see City doing well and unhappy when we are shite this apprently renders me a non fan - oh that I could believe when we lose a few in a row but sadly no, if he screws it up this time I will be right back calling for his head - well done for now though eh - and thanks God Nige signed Nugent and Kasper, the two best players on the field today as well

Sven signed Nugent and Kasper! Good on him.

[The Horse's Mouth]

I don't know why half of you give them the attention, I do like ASS though. Seenitall and co are just bland and boring. 

[MC Prussian]

Sven signed Nugent and Kasper! Good on him.

That was his point all the way - hidden agenda, as always.

[fuchsntf]

NP must be a top manager. He as some ruffians, some dumps, some nice parts, fighters, Benifit intake, but generally a great bunch, just like his initials.......New Parks. Reaches those parts that others cant..

[Bluetintedspecs]

I don't know why half of you give them the attention, I do like ASS though. Seenitall and co are just bland and boring. 

Each to their own

[Trav Le Bleu]

Blimey, promoted in January is a first but well done Nige......actually, well done Nige, this is the first time in four seasons you have looked anything like as good as your followers said you were and I am mighty glad to see it.

While I am happy to see City doing well and unhappy when we are shite this apprently renders me a non fan - oh that I could believe when we lose a few in a row but sadly no, if he screws it up this time I will be right back calling for his head - well done for now though eh - and thanks God Nige signed Nugent and Kasper, the two best players on the field today as well

 

Can't help but feel though that you'd rather be right and we don't get promoted, rather than wrong and we do.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Do people really say 'naysayer' anymore.

Sounds like summat out of Shakespeare...

 

Shakespeare and these blokes...

 

[seenitall]

Can't help but feel though that you'd rather be right and we don't get promoted, rather than wrong and we do.

Hundred percent wrong there - should have been up years ago so can't come quick enough. If and when we get up NP will last 12 games maybe and I will still be right - you gotta wait at least 10 months to prove me wrong.....

[Corky]

Hundred percent wrong there - should have been up years ago so can't come quick enough. If and when we get up NP will last 12 games maybe and I will still be right - you gotta wait at least 10 months to prove me wrong.....

 

Not having a dig, just a genuine question- when did you believe we should've gone up before this season which qualifies as "years ago"?

[seenitall]

Not having a dig, just a genuine question- when did you believe we should've gone up before this season which qualifies as "years ago"?

Didn't say we'd remotely looked like going up but the failures after Adams was ousted were diabolical and we should have been challenging immediately afterwards.....the last 6 or 7 years have been a joke all round, the saddest thing being the lowering ( by the club no less) of the fans expectations - there have never been a more easily satisfied bunch of line toe- ers in the history of the club (well in the 40 years I have been following). We seem to be turning it around now but 11 years FFS

[Kitchandro]

Classic seenitall.

 

How far will the deadline be moved back next time?

 

We all know in 10 months time he'll say he refuses to give him any credit unless we stay up at the end of the season.

 

Then he'll say not until we've finished in the top half.

 

Then not until we get into the Champions League.

 

He's getting a bit predictable it has to be said. It's even more disappointing that he's had to disappear for several months to come up with this new and edgy material.

[Corky]

Didn't say we'd remotely looked like going up but the failures after Adams was ousted were diabolical and we should have been challenging immediately afterwards.....the last 6 or 7 years have been a joke all round, the saddest thing being the lowering ( by the club no less) of the fans expectations - there have never been a more easily satisfied bunch of line toe- ers in the history of the club (well in the 40 years I have been following). We seem to be turning it around now but 11 years FFS

 

I agree with lots of that, the only season I think we've gone beyond the squad's natural level was in 2010 when finishing 5th, thought it was a 10th at best squad on paper. Given we've got the same core of the squad this season to last it makes the collapse even more frustrating, but hopefully lessons will be learnt, we get up and then we can all discuss the big games again.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Didn't say we'd remotely looked like going up but the failures after Adams was ousted were diabolical and we should have been challenging immediately afterwards.....the last 6 or 7 years have been a joke all round, the saddest thing being the lowering ( by the club no less) of the fans expectations - there have never been a more easily satisfied bunch of line toe- ers in the history of the club (well in the 40 years I have been following). We seem to be turning it around now but 11 years FFS

Are we 'line toers' or just capable of appreciating the work NP had to do with cutting the wage bill etc? Cardiff ballsed up for several seasons. It can happen in football.

What if there weren't so many 'line toers' and more fans had been calling for his head and the owners decided to listen? We'd have been back to square 1 and repeating the 'several jokes of a season' you so hated inciting another managerial merry-go round and squad upheaval.

So I say, 'big up to the line toers!'

[Strokes]

I understand and share most of seenitalls frustrations. But you have to understand football has changed so much since sky started pumping billions into the game, the longer you are out of the prem the harder it is to go up. These ffp rules will make it even harder if you have a lean spell, which is why it is vital to get up this year.

[Kitchandro]

All this premature crowing! I'd like to see us stop counting the proverbial chickens too soon, to see our club continue to focus on the job and to see us finally cross the line before we start celebrating.   

 

It's not about that Thrac. All we're asking is that certain posters be fair and give NP some credit where it's due.

 

BTW, Cuddly Ken is obvious wum. God knows what seenitall is.

[Guest]

BTW, Cuddly Ken is obvious wum. God knows what seenitall is.

I can think of a few choice words to describe him.....

[Oxfordfox83]

There's a seenitall at Man Utd right now going: "Told you Ferguson was sh1t, look at what he left behind... Big Ron was the man for us!"

[Leicester_Numan]

How are you feeling about the season now?

This is genuinely not a taunt, a pisstake or any attempt to goad you. It's a serious question.

Seenitall, Cuddly Ken and numerous others have been conspicuous by their absence, I'm certain seenitall hasn't been on here since Christmas, and I'm sure I'm not alone in wondering why.

We're 26 games into the season and top. Not just top of the table, but five points clear of second and six clear of third. We are the highest home scorers, have won more games than anyone else in the division and have completed our first six game winning streak in twenty years. We're no bigger than 1/3 with any bookies to be promoted. Performances against Derby, Watford and others have seen the side put together some of the best football in over a decade.

I dare day that nobody expected this to be the case. Most of us thought, given the lack of business in the summer, that play-offs would be a big ask. People who said we would be automatically promoted were considered wild optimists.

The fact is, most of us were wrong about what we could achieve this season. The play-offs were considered a challenging, but achievable, target by many in August. They would now be considered something of a disappointment. Those of us, like myself, who expected us to have to work very hard just to make the top six are quite enjoying being proved wrong.

We're enjoying it because we would much rather see our team do well than be vindicated. As fans of a club that have experienced their longest exile from the top flight since the Second World War, we're loving this season. We've wanted Premier League football for a long time, and we look in the best position to get it for a decade. It's a time for Leicester City fans to be proud and appreciative of the team.

It shouldn't be a time to sulk because you don't like the manager and his dour interviews. It shouldn't be a time to hide because you're worried others might take the piss, even though they pretty much definitely will.

Hope you're enjoying the season, despite your contempt for the manager. The contempt looks increasingly misguided, and I'm sure that anyone with their head out of their arse will admit that now.

On a closing note, if you aren't enjoying this season, you quite simply are not a Leicester City fan.

Hope to see you soon.

I said pre-season we were easily good enough for the play offs but would only challenge for top 2 with the fans behind the team but if they were against them, we'd struggle just to get 6th.

That was before we signed Hammond, Wasilewski & GTF though.

I'm bloody delighted to be wrong although not by that much as far as the table is concerned but some performances and results have been better than I thought us capable of.

So far, so good.

[_Fatboyslow_]

Hundred percent wrong there - should have been up years ago so can't come quick enough. If and when we get up NP will last 12 games maybe and I will still be right - you gotta wait at least 10 months to prove me wrong.....

Could it not be the case that with better players NP could keep us up or the owners finance the club so that if we do come down we will have a better squad and no FFP issues? In either of these cases NP could in fact be working with in the guide lines set by the owners, as he appears to have been doing since his return.

[MC Prussian]

Didn't say we'd remotely looked like going up but the failures after Adams was ousted were diabolical and we should have been challenging immediately afterwards.....the last 6 or 7 years have been a joke all round, the saddest thing being the lowering ( by the club no less) of the fans expectations - there have never been a more easily satisfied bunch of line toe- ers in the history of the club (well in the 40 years I have been following). We seem to be turning it around now but 11 years FFS

The failures of past seasons (mostly pre-Pearson) were down to mismanagement - and that not just from pitch side. The buying and selling policy of Leicester City in between 2003 and 2008 was pathetic and there was no real pristine attempt at getting back to the Premier League instantly and no visible ambition. Whether it was down to purely inept people at the helm or business people still trying to steer the ship clear following the administration years and the financial mishaps that came along with it, remains to be seen.

 

We were certainly in a bad shape in those days. It took five to six years to recover and we still are in the process of recovering, albeit closing in on the finishing line.

 

So, if you want to blame someone, how about going further back and exposing the "experts" before Pearson came along?

 

As for the fans' expectations, they have been brought back down to a realistic level. Anyone who's seen Leicester play in the top division for more than one or two seasons will of course take that as the measuring stick and take the experience for granted, seeing the club as one of the best of England. But historically, Leicester have always been a yo-yo club, with a few stints at the highest level in between.

So, in that regard I can see why you're "suffering".

 

Nowadays, I think many people appreciate that the current management have done a good job in getting us lined up for a return and that consistency, especially when it comes to the manager, is key.

If past failures have taught us anything, it is that you cannot take anything for granted, especially in financially peculiar football times like these.

 

Also, would you like to swap our last eleven years with Coventry's or Portsmouth's or Wimbledon's? There's a couple of former allegedly big clubs far worse off right now than us (still) or some that went through much more turmoil than we did.

[RumbleFox]

Didn't say we'd remotely looked like going up but the failures after Adams was ousted were diabolical and we should have been challenging immediately afterwards.....the last 6 or 7 years have been a joke all round, the saddest thing being the lowering ( by the club no less) of the fans expectations - there have never been a more easily satisfied bunch of line toe- ers in the history of the club (well in the 40 years I have been following). We seem to be turning it around now but 11 years FFS

 

Hello sunshine

 

So, for the first time in ten years we have a team to be proud of and look like we may be on course for promotion and this is a reason to continue to dislike Pearson?

 

I am loathe to respond to you because you are clearly one of the following:

 

1 - a troll

2 - simply miserable

 

Whichever you are, you're just making yourself look a little bit silly mate.  Honestly, I feel a bit sorry for you.  PM me if you want to talk about your problems.  Is life all that bad?

 

Come on you foxes!!

 

Rumble

 

X

[indierich06]

So basically, unless Pearson stays with us until his retirement, Seenitall will be popping up to claim he was 'right all along'.

 

FFS man, just appreciate the football we're playing, the good job he's doing and the most successful season we've had down in this shithole league for years. He's done infinitely better than any of the other jokers we've had in charge over the last ten years, just enjoy it. If you're not, how can you ever get any enjoyment out of watching Leicester City?

[seenitall]

The failures of past seasons (mostly pre-Pearson) were down to mismanagement - and that not just from pitch side. The buying and selling policy of Leicester City in between 2003 and 2008 was pathetic and there was no real pristine attempt at getting back to the Premier League instantly and no visible ambition. Whether it was down to purely inept people at the helm or business people still trying to steer the ship clear following the administration years and the financial mishaps that came along with it, remains to be seen.

 

We were certainly in a bad shape in those days. It took five to six years to recover and we still are in the process of recovering, albeit closing in on the finishing line.

 

So, if you want to blame someone, how about going further back and exposing the "experts" before Pearson came along?

 

As for the fans' expectations, they have been brought back down to a realistic level. Anyone who's seen Leicester play in the top division for more than one or two seasons will of course take that as the measuring stick and take the experience for granted, seeing the club as one of the best of England. But historically, Leicester have always been a yo-yo club, with a few stints at the highest level in between.

So, in that regard I can see why you're "suffering".

 

Nowadays, I think many people appreciate that the current management have done a good job in getting us lined up for a return and that consistency, especially when it comes to the manager, is key.

If past failures have taught us anything, it is that you cannot take anything for granted, especially in financially peculiar football times like these.

 

Also, would you like to swap our last eleven years with Coventry's or Portsmouth's or Wimbledon's? There's a couple of former allegedly big clubs far worse off right now than us (still) or some that went through much more turmoil than we did.

Nice to enter into actual discussion with someone so thanks for that......

 

Totally agree with all that you've said. Just because something has been shit for quite a long time doesn't mean that those who remember it not being so shit should accept it. This season has seen a miraculous change in the way the management conducts itself, from the way the interviews are done to the way the team seem to be behaving. We pessimists were always being told that the fab team spirit was reason enough to love NP and his management team but it was in short supply really until the beginning of this season - yes there were players he didn't want in there but while the believers could only see good there were plenty questioning his credentials when the wheels were off last Feb-April.

 

It was a shame that the owners had to learn about football by nausing our club up for three years but they do seem to have turned a corner as well and the director of football thingy seems to be working for us (suprise that, having someone who understands the game on board!)

 

I clearly wouldn't swap with any of the clubs you mention but up until a few weeks ago would have happily swapped with Southampton, Stoke, or even West Ham or Norwich, all clubs we should be shoulder to shoulder with or above in the Premier League - that its of our 'fans' are delighted to be challenging for the play offs, if we let the club believe that is good enough then it excuses the shite they have served up for the majority of the past 10 years. I never will, so it is tough on those that are delighted to finish 6th courtesy of a last minute goal that I thought last season was a dog and was prepared to say so.

 

Good that we finally seem to be trying to get up automatically, the only thing that really counts.

[seenitall]

Hello sunshine

 

So, for the first time in ten years we have a team to be proud of and look like we may be on course for promotion and this is a reason to continue to dislike Pearson?

 

I am loathe to respond to you because you are clearly one of the following:

 

1 - a troll

2 - simply miserable

 

Whichever you are, you're just making yourself look a little bit silly mate.  Honestly, I feel a bit sorry for you.  PM me if you want to talk about your problems.  Is life all that bad?

 

Come on you foxes!!

 

Rumble

 

X

Hello treacle

 

Who dislikes Pearson, seems like a great bloke, good laugh, loved the Div 3 promotion season etc etc. Be honest with yourself though, can you see him surviving more than a few weeks in the Prem? Me neither and so we may get a manager of the calibre we deserve if we get up. If he can survive it then of course I will be delighted for the club but I am not so sure - still, wouldn't it be exciting to find out?

 

I am glad you lowered yourself to respond though because if I was 1. a troll, I would enjoy getting slagged to shit every time I disagreed with the masses (I don't) and 2. simply miserable - not loving a particular manager doesn't make me miserable - watching him serve up dire shite and finish mid table effectively year after year makes me miserable - i am quite happy for the past 6 games but was bordering on miserable when we looked poor and dropped out of automatic. See its simple - good Leicester = happy bad Leicester = miserable. I wish I could be shite Leicester = happy like the others on here but it doesn't work!

 

Sad that I look silly to you - may well PM you but that might be taken the wrong way.......