Webbo Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 I've heard of trends that weren't bollocking for doing something wrong or merely a bit of banter across several trades. Bordering on the sadistic. No wonder young people are put off these days, and again, I wonder whether it's a conscious or unconscious effort to maintain a status quo. You'll have to give us an example before I can judge. There are a lot of thugs and thickos in the building. A lot of the lads I went college with have done time for crimes of violence including armed robbery. One of the best painters at college couldn't add up 2+2, literally. We had to do maths at college and I saw it with my own eyes, he was also a thug and a druggie. If these lads are still in the trade and they have apprentices then I'd imagine they wouldn't be the gentlest of souls.
sphericalfox Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 You'll have to give us an example before I can judge. There are a lot of thugs and thickos in the building. A lot of the lads I went college with have done time for crimes of violence including armed robbery. One of the best painters at college couldn't add up 2+2, literally. We had to do maths at college and I saw it with my own eyes, he was also a thug and a druggie. If these lads are still in the trade and they have apprentices then I'd imagine they wouldn't be the gentlest of souls. I won't give details on here, but I've heard some sad stories. Mind I heard a few good ones too, I'm not suggesting that it's wall to wall unprofessional cretins, but I do wonder if it's for the reason I mentioned, dissuading young people from taking up trades is in the industries' interest.
Stadt Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 My stepdad has his own electrical contracting business and he gets the apprentice to do all the donkey work, it's just cheap labour whilst he does all of the learning at college.
Webbo Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 I won't give details on here, but I've heard some sad stories. Mind I heard a few good ones too, I'm not suggesting that it's wall to wall unprofessional cretins, but I do wonder if it's for the reason I mentioned, dissuading young people from taking up trades is in the industries' interest. The big contractors need tradesmen or they can't take on work or they'd have to pay the fewer tradesmen even more. It doesn't pay them not to have new recruits.
sphericalfox Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 The big contractors need tradesmen or they can't take on work or they'd have to pay the fewer tradesmen even more. It doesn't pay them not to have new recruits. Hence why I stated small independent companies in my first post, there's a significant difference.
davieG Posted 21 March 2014 Author Posted 21 March 2014 Hence why I stated small independent companies in my first post, there's a significant difference. I found the biggest fear was they spend time and money on an apprentice only for them to up and leave on completing often to a rival that had invested nothing in training. I believe companies, if they don't already do so should get full tax refunds on this type of training. Some of it when tsking on an apprentice and the balance on completion. Maybe even something on top. Of course they would need to be proper apprenticeships, some of the modern ones are very poor and restricted to certain industries/trades.
davieG Posted 30 July 2014 Author Posted 30 July 2014 Well I ordered a skip for today for a house clearance the sale was due to be completed on Friday. They were supposed to turn up between 12.15 and 1.30. at 1.45 we rang them and they said they might be able to get us one today. Asked if they could promise one for tomorrow again all we got is a might. We said that's not good enough and the guy just said well cancel your order then which we've done. Judging their total inefficiency I now wonder if we'll ever get our money back. I spent all morning dismantling/cutting up and putting the stuff outside the house ready to go in the skip, now a complete eyesore. We've now had to postpone the house sale completion. Really are there any reliable business out there?
Dr The Singh Posted 30 July 2014 Posted 30 July 2014 This is the real world, it's such a let down, hence being drunk is actually a good thing
Danno Posted 30 July 2014 Posted 30 July 2014 Well I ordered a skip for today for a house clearance the sale was due to be completed on Friday. They were supposed to turn up between 12.15 and 1.30. at 1.45 we rang them and they said they might be able to get us one today. Asked if they could promise one for tomorrow again all we got is a might. We said that's not good enough and the guy just said well cancel your order then which we've done. Judging their total inefficiency I now wonder if we'll ever get our money back. I spent all morning dismantling/cutting up and putting the stuff outside the house ready to go in the skip, now a complete eyesore. We've now had to postpone the house sale completion. Really are there any reliable business out there? What was the company name?
broughtonblue Posted 30 July 2014 Posted 30 July 2014 Well I ordered a skip for today for a house clearance the sale was due to be completed on Friday. They were supposed to turn up between 12.15 and 1.30. at 1.45 we rang them and they said they might be able to get us one today. Asked if they could promise one for tomorrow again all we got is a might. We said that's not good enough and the guy just said well cancel your order then which we've done. Judging their total inefficiency I now wonder if we'll ever get our money back. I spent all morning dismantling/cutting up and putting the stuff outside the house ready to go in the skip, now a complete eyesore. We've now had to postpone the house sale completion. Really are there any reliable business out there? B.A.S.H (broughton Astley skip hire) seem quite reliable. Owned by ex city player Richard Smith
Rincewind Posted 31 July 2014 Posted 31 July 2014 Don't a lot of small firms run as a family business so their son does the labouring at cut price. Also There are a lot of companies recruit inhouse although they still legally have to advertise, There have been posts on here where posters say they have been offered promotion. Makes sense to hire someone you know is loyal and can rely on than taking a chance with a newbie who may want more money.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 31 July 2014 Posted 31 July 2014 Don#t How have you managed that? DavieG - what skip hire company did you deal with? I've used Bakers (I think) and TWatts more recently and was pretty impressed with both, T Watts delivered and collected at 8am sharp the days we requested. The only thing is the cost, it's always £50 more than I'm anticipating
Rincewind Posted 31 July 2014 Posted 31 July 2014 How have you managed that? DavieG - what skip hire company did you deal with? I've used Bakers (I think) and TWatts more recently and was pretty impressed with both, T Watts delivered and collected at 8am sharp the days we requested. The only thing is the cost, it's always £50 more than I'm anticipating Simple typo. . and # next to each other on the keyboard. Sorry for not being perfect. I did not realise putting an apostrophe in the correct place was more important than the post content.
MooseBreath Posted 31 July 2014 Posted 31 July 2014 Don't a lot of small firms run as a family business so their son does the labouring at cut price. Also There are a lot of companies recruit inhouse although they still legally have to advertise, There have been posts on here where posters say they have been offered promotion. Makes sense to hire someone you know is loyal and can rely on than taking a chance with a newbie who may want more money. I realise you're only pushing your "reasons why I haven't bothered looking for a job" agenda here, but you're wrong. Situations like this show that businesses have an absolute abundance of work available to them. They'd probably like to expand so that they can sweep up as much work as possible but they're struggling to find enough decent staff now that pretty much everyone who genuinely wants a job has got one.
Guest Posted 31 July 2014 Posted 31 July 2014 Well I ordered a skip for today for a house clearance the sale was due to be completed on Friday. They were supposed to turn up between 12.15 and 1.30. at 1.45 we rang them and they said they might be able to get us one today. Asked if they could promise one for tomorrow again all we got is a might. We said that's not good enough and the guy just said well cancel your order then which we've done. Judging their total inefficiency I now wonder if we'll ever get our money back. I spent all morning dismantling/cutting up and putting the stuff outside the house ready to go in the skip, now a complete eyesore. We've now had to postpone the house sale completion. Really are there any reliable business out there? You clearly have a bad rep Davie. Mayeb these tradesmen read FT
Guest Posted 31 July 2014 Posted 31 July 2014 Simple typo. . and # next to each other on the keyboard. Sorry for not being perfect. I did not realise putting an apostrophe in the correct place was more important than the post content. Don't; start
davieG Posted 31 July 2014 Author Posted 31 July 2014 It was Burgess Thanks for the recommendations but I've got an alternative lined up for tomorrow
davieG Posted 1 August 2014 Author Posted 1 August 2014 What can I say let down again supposed to contact and come this morning. Rang them up was told 3pm, no show, rang again 4 to 6pm. Drove to the property 40 min journey They rang us and said it could be anytime up to 8pm. Cancelled until sometime tomorrow morning when we're promised they will call and fit us in. I despair and am really pissed off.
Webbo Posted 1 August 2014 Posted 1 August 2014 My cousin has a skip hire company, I hope it wasnt him.
ADK Posted 2 August 2014 Posted 2 August 2014 I guess if I can't get a job next time I'll set up a skip hire company...
Nalis Posted 2 August 2014 Posted 2 August 2014 My careers advice meeting when I was 15, so about 9 years ago now, was absolutely entirely focused on getting people into Uni. Amongst other reasons its so the school can say 'Oh look, we got 95% of our students into uni, our figures are higher than other schools round the areas so please put your kid into our school. Oh, and our fees will be higher as a result'. It was the same with me in 2002 when I left, was surprised to see some of the supposed knuckle brains from school in my uni. When I realised they wee doing Associate Bachelor degrees in Accounting which required only two E graded at A Level, it was obvious they were forced into it by the schools. Needless to say they all dropped out by the end of the year. You cant fully blame the schools though, its mainly govt targets forced upon schools that make them do the above. Its like any business or place of work the reality is that you work towards your targets, not the greater good of the business/society (although if that happens to be a knock on effect then so be it).
The People's Hero Posted 2 August 2014 Posted 2 August 2014 Oh well yet another example of could care less customer service. Took my car in at 9.30 as agreed was told it would be a 3/4 hr job. Having heard nothing by 4.00 rang up and someone promised they'd get the boss to ring back in 20 mins. 5.30 still no call rang them and I'm told the job is done but it's now too late for me to pick up so will have to do it tomorrow. Are you sure you're giving out the right phone number? Maybe check it?
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