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Which Political Party Do You Side With?

By MikeyT, in General Chat

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Guest Kopfkino

Guest Kopfkino

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So there exists a party that aligns with your views fairly closely but instead you're going to refuse the opportunity to support them and allow others a better chance of getting in?

 

I'd also point out that part of the reason politicians don't seem to care about you is because young people don't vote. Governments are less inclined to act in our interests because we make ourselves an unimportant electoral group by not voting. I'm sure you have your reasons but I think you're letting yourself down personally.

Well surely that depends. Granted an 89% siding is strong but it doesn't mean that he is suited to voting for UKIP. I've got a 75% siding with UKIP but no way would I vote for them because their main belief of just pulling out of the EU is not what I believe should happen. I'd rather vote for someone that is less in line with my views because of the issue of the EU.

I came back as 90% Conservative which doesn't surprise me and that's who I will vote for in the Europeans. I don't know how I'll vote next year though. I'd want to vote Conservative most likely but I don't believe our MP is much good and I'd rather he wasn't out MY. Being as it's a relatively strong seat for him, it will be difficult to change but I know my chance of changing that is by voting Lib Dems as they are usually second and make up most of the council. I cam back as 76% Lib Dem, I actually think Lib Dem belief and policy isn't too bad but the leadership is close to hopeless at national level and I'm not fond of their complete EU love in either.

I'm sure my thoughts could change in a year, let alone a few years. People are maybe right when they say 'you're only just 18, you don't know what really goes on' though probably neither do they

Fox96

Fox96

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Ah! In that case, your first comment is almost certainly true, as it is for most people in the country. Shame we have an electoral system that means that every election is decided by "those crucial swing voters" (people who don't know what they believe) in those "marginal constituencies" (suburbs and medium-sized towns, in the main)....distorts the whole of politics by making the main parties focus their policies/message on those people and constituencies.

Would be much better if there was some point in Labour winning over some rural voters, the Tories winning over some inner city voters etc. I'll save my full pro-electoral reform rant for some other occasion.... :mad:

I totally agree, thought I'm not sure what I'd want to replace FPTP with, probably Single Transferrable Vote but then again trying to change the system such as with the Alternative Vote referendum didn't go down too well. Anything Proportional really would be better.
The Year Of The Fox

The Year Of The Fox

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The Doctor

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Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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Mate he'd vote UKIP, don't encourage him.

It doesn't matter who they vote for, everyone should be encouraged to use their vote even if they support the SWP or the BNP.

People have died for the right to vote, democracy should never be taken for granted.

Harry - LCFC

Harry - LCFC

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It doesn't matter who they vote for, everyone should be encouraged to use their vote even if they support the SWP or the BNP.

People have died for the right to vote, democracy should never be taken for granted.

 

I think he was just having a joke  :P

Mark_w

Mark_w

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I think he was just having a joke  :P

 

No, I was serious. I'm not saying people shouldn't vote UKIP if they want to, but I have no idea why anyone with an ounce of sense would want to encourage them.

 

 

It doesn't matter who they vote for, everyone should be encouraged to use their vote even if they support the SWP or the BNP.

People have died for the right to vote, democracy should never be taken for granted.

 

I always vote, but I don't buy the argument that we should because 'people died for the right to vote' at all. If you don't trust any political party, don't vote. If you don't think you know enough about it to make a sensible decision, don't vote. If you don't feel strongly enough to get off your arse and vote, then don't vote.

 

No one died so that future generations would HAVE to vote. I doubt very many have even died purely to secure the vote for future generations, but I'm sure those that did wouldn't have wanted people to be forced to do so.

The God Emperor

The God Emperor

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No, I was serious. I'm not saying people shouldn't vote UKIP if they want to, but I have no idea why anyone with an ounce of sense would want to encourage them.

 

 

 

I always vote, but I don't buy the argument that we should because 'people died for the right to vote' at all. If you don't trust any political party, don't vote. If you don't think you know enough about it to make a sensible decision, don't vote. If you don't feel strongly enough to get off your arse and vote, then don't vote.

 

No one died so that future generations would HAVE to vote. I doubt very many have even died purely to secure the vote for future generations, but I'm sure those that did wouldn't have wanted people to be forced to do so.

the plus one is for the highlighted point. I find it incredibly difficult to vote, no party advocates the changes I want for this country. The only one you could say comes close is a complete and utter mess. Therefore most of the time I don't bother and it annoys me when people come out with crap like "well you didn't vote so you don't have a right to moan". Yes I do! The government does plenty of things that offend me morally and make me feel very uneasy. no party wants to undo any of these things, some parties want to undo some of it but also want to bring in other stuff I find just as wrong. The only way I can consider voting is strategically, like if it looks like labour are going to win I'll vote torie and vice versa. 

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Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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No, I was serious. I'm not saying people shouldn't vote UKIP if they want to, but I have no idea why anyone with an ounce of sense would want to

Frightening stuff. Personally I think anyone who would vote Ed Balls back into any sort of economic governance should be given a lobotomy but I'd never encourage someone not to vote.

Do you seriously think people don't have an ounce of sense because they probably want control over their own borders, want our own government to make our laws, allow businesses to run themselves how they please and to make sure wages for the low paid increase rather than decrease?

You seem to have fallen into the 'I'm a leftie so I'm automatically pro EU and anti UKIP bracket' without really thinking it through.

What is your stance on Europe? Are you all in with no reform? Would you like us to join the Euro? Are you proud to support a Eurozone that has brought the Mediterranean to its knees and created upto 60% youth employment in these countries? How liberal does it make you feel to see Greeks eating out of bins?

Harry - LCFC

Harry - LCFC

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I'd describe voting as a responsibility rather than an obligation.

 

By being politically engaged you you do your bit to support (and maybe improve) a system that does a decent job of protecting freedoms. Voting is a pretty direct way of doing this but if you aren't satisfied with what's available there are other ways of going about it. Apathy only gives the government greater license to do what you don't want them to do.

Alf Bentley

Alf Bentley

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I always vote, but I don't buy the argument that we should because 'people died for the right to vote' at all. If you don't trust any political party, don't vote. If you don't think you know enough about it to make a sensible decision, don't vote. If you don't feel strongly enough to get off your arse and vote, then don't vote.

 

 

If you don't trust any political party, turn up and spoil your ballot paper (spoilt ballots are counted - if thousands were to do it, it would send a message) - and get involved in politics to change things, in whatever way you feel appropriate.

 

If you don't think you know enough about it to make a sensible decision, make the effort to find out so that you do! You don't have to be an expert - nobody is, in reality. 

Mark_w

Mark_w

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Frightening stuff. Personally I think anyone who would vote Ed Balls back into any sort of economic governance should be given a lobotomy but I'd never encourage someone not to vote.

Do you seriously think people don't have an ounce of sense because they probably want control over their own borders, want our own government to make our laws, allow businesses to run themselves how they please and to make sure wages for the low paid increase rather than decrease?

You seem to have fallen into the 'I'm a leftie so I'm automatically pro EU and anti UKIP bracket' without really thinking it through.

What is your stance on Europe? Are you all in with no reform? Would you like us to join the Euro? Are you proud to support a Eurozone that has brought the Mediterranean to its knees and created upto 60% youth employment in these countries? How liberal does it make you feel to see Greeks eating out of bins?

 

No I have not fallen into the 'I'm a leftie so I'm automatically pro EU and anti UKIP bracket' I've looked at UKIP's policies (probably more than any other parties because I'd say they're the most interesting political party at the moment) and disagree with basically all of them (barring a few to do with issues that I'm not really that interested in). I'm perfectly happy with England's role in the EU remaining as it is, I've got no real opinion about whether Greece should because I haven't read an awful lot about it, nor could I do anything to change it if I had?

 

From what I've seen I'm pro-EU, but it's certainly not the most important issue to me and it's certainly not the main reason I dislike UKIP.

 

I'm no expert on the EU, but as I say that's not why I dislike them.

 

I'd describe voting as a responsibility rather than an obligation.

 

By being politically engaged you you do your bit to support (and maybe improve) a system that does a decent job of protecting freedoms. Voting is a pretty direct way of doing this but if you aren't satisfied with what's available there are other ways of going about it. Apathy only gives the government greater license to do what you don't want them to do.

 

I'm sure most people who dislike the current government will vote against it, it's the people who don't care or who are dissatisfied with every single party that won't vote and why should they?

 

No one has any responsibility to vote at all. And who's to say that not going out and voting isn't just as effective a form of protest as voting for a smaller party that stands no chance? Hopefully it'll make parties think about what they can do to get those people interested in politics, which would be a lot more helpful than anything that would come out of voting for a party you don't really care about or particularly agree with.

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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Just to confirm then you are completely happy with Britain's role in the EU without any reform whatsoever? Extending to the current expenses and pension schemes? What about the ECOHM? Allowing government to raid personal bank accounts?

If I was you and you are going to accuse people of having no sense for voting UKIP I'd advise you learn a little bit about the European Union or you could end up looking rather silly.

Which UKIP policy do you disagree with?

Mark_w

Mark_w

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Just to confirm then you are completely happy with Britain's role in the EU without any reform whatsoever?

 

I don't know a great deal about it, but as far as I'm aware there's nothing I'm particularly outraged by. Educate me.

 

 

Which UKIP policy do you disagree with?

 

Off the top of my head, reducing the amount of money going into foreign aid, they talk about deporting foreign criminals which I disagree with in the case of non-violent crimes, pretty obviously disagree with their views on gay marriage, disagree with a lot of what they say about immigration particularly the stance that anyone who can't afford private health/education can't come in regardless of their circumstances and as with a lot of parties I think many of the sound bites (millions of Romanians ARE coming for YOUR job) are just total nonsense. There's a lot more I dislike but that's what comes to mind.

Thracian

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