Nige, Kasper, Dowd... i'm looking at you.

[Guest LCFC_World]

What happened to Cambiasso today? And next game I would play:

Kasper

Simpson

Moore

Morgan

Schlupp

Mahrez

Cambiasso

Drinkwater

Vardy

Wood

Ulloa

I am a big fan of Chris Wood, his finishing ability is better that anyone else we have. Vardy on the wing, schlupp back to left back because I think Konchesky needs a break. Would also like to see Albrighton at some point, and Kasper still deserves to start in my opinion.

[Dickov22]

What happened to Cambiasso today? And next game I would play:

Kasper

Simpson

Moore

Morgan

Schlupp

Mahrez

Cambiasso

Drinkwater

Vardy

Wood

Ulloa

I am a big fan of Chris Wood, his finishing ability is better that anyone else we have. Vardy on the wing, schlupp back to left back because I think Konchesky needs a break. Would also like to see Albrighton at some point, and Kasper still deserves to start in my opinion.

Wood and Ulloa in the same 11?! Never ever gonna happen

[inckley fox]

I'm not sure Cambiasso was completely fit, however James would've been a better choice than Hammond.

 

I think I might have missed something - is there any evidence to suggest that he wasn't fit? Has Pearson said something I didn't get wind of?

[inckley fox]

Unfortunately, we're going to have days like today. Just like the Man United match. So far we've looked a mid-table team, some great performances, some ok, some poor. If this form is replicated throughout the season then we'll reach last year's survival total of 34 points after 26/27 games.

 

We should've played better and played the second half with more life and aggression and need to improve for the next match.

 

Of course, though it worries me a little when the manager appears to feel we were on top in a game which anybody could see we didn't deserve to win. This could be a touch of amateur psychology on his part, I suppose, but I do remember how stubbornly he maintained that nothing was wrong in early 2013, when clearly it was.

 

The problem for me is that sides are identifying a lack of pace in our midfield behind Drinkwater as a weakness, as well as the full backs, who seem very easy to get in behind... but the changes we make and the critical comments from the boss seem to be aimed at our attacking players, rather than those protecting our goal. If we continue with De Laet (who, in truth, did fine today), Konchesky (who didn't) and Hammond (who is okay on the ball, but two yards off the pace off it) then our two centre halfs are going to come under massive pressure this season.

 

James giving away a foul in the 94th made him / Kasper an easy scapegoat, but the bigger problem was surrendering the momentum for the entire 2nd half. By the time James came on we were massively under pressure and there was no time for him to get up to speed. Had the change been on 45 / 60 it may have been a different story.

[Corky]

I think I might have missed something - is there any evidence to suggest that he wasn't fit? Has Pearson said something I didn't get wind of?

 

He got a knock last week and as we had four fit midfielders available it might not have been worth the risk

[The Doctor]

Did he forget where the goal is?

 

He's about 3 yards left of the wall aswell! 

 

Shambles for a keeper of his calibre to be that lapse.

His positioning is fine, St. Albans fox has got it spot on, nothing wrong with kasper there, it's a weak wall, but a brilliantly hit free kick. Some goals you just have to give it to them, like di Maria v man utd, and that free kick

[sdb]

Ooof, Kasper. Even Wallace just acknowledged how off his positioning was. 

[inckley fox]

He got a knock last week and as we had four fit midfielders available it might not have been worth the risk

 

Oh, I'm sorry. I hadn't heard this.

 

Did this come from any of our staff? I only ask because Cambiasso was clearly unhappy when he came off last week - some fans claimed he was injured but his reaction suggested otherwise. I wondered whether the injury supposition had snowballed into concrete fact.

[Stadt]

Don't really play Fifa anymore chap. But putting somebody on the post against that free kick would of stopped that from going in.

It's a serious question. Why don't teams put a player on the post for free kicks.

Because they'd play everybody onside?

[Corky]

At that time Wallace was only going to go for goal, put someone on the post and see what happens.

[Guest Kopfkino]

I really think Hamer should come in for Schmeichel next game. His positioning for the 2nd was a joke, Wallace knew if he could get it on target, it was a goal and didnt have to be accurate making it a lot easier. To me a good goalkeeper comes to collect the first one when the ball is played in, he'd most likely get a freekick anyway. 7 goals against in three games, weak from set pieces and given how Hamer played v Stoke with a clean sheet then I think Hamer deserves a go.

[Gary Eatfood]

I'm not never expecting to suffer setbacks. But that was just asking for it, which isn't good enough.

 

Of course i'm ranting. We've only just lost and i'll probably look back on this thread with regret tomorrow morning. But we should have beaten those, that side they put out (it's missing most of their starters) isn't good enough for this league.

 

 

What does that even mean?

 

That you can't think of a counter argument?

 

That wasn't good enough. It needs to be realised.

 

 

Brushing these problems to the side can quickly escalate. Look at how a lot of teams recently promoted have gone to bollocks after a good start. We can't just say "but we beat United and drew to Everton and Chelsea" because we've now lost to Palace and Burnley. We've had a tremendous start but we need to keep our foot on the gas before we start losing more and more.

 

That wasn't good enough and the team needs to work together to put it right. The next game is now "must not lose" IMO.

 

I know that conceding a 96th minute equaliser can feel like a defeat but I can assure you, we didn't lose today.

[Dan]

Wallace even decided to mention the poor positioning and some people still think there was nothing wrong with it?

 

Saying that I think the wall was just as bad. Why was a short-arse like Drinkwater in the middle? Stick Morgan where he was and we could well be 5th.

[Babylon]

His positioning is fine, St. Albans fox has got it spot on, nothing wrong with kasper there, it's a weak wall, but a brilliantly hit free kick. Some goals you just have to give it to them, like di Maria v man utd, and that free kick

Not had a look back at it yet, but looking at it from the kop end the positioning of the wall and Kaspers positioning looked poor. Before it was even kicked the comments around me were "what's he doing".

[Al-aLondon-Foxile]

Did he forget where the goal is?

 

He's about 3 yards left of the wall aswell! 

 

Shambles for a keeper of his calibre to be that lapse.

I wonder if he's that far over because he needs to see the kicker? He's not tall, the wall is close and he can't be central to the goal AND see the ball coming. He moves just as it's kicked but maybe times it too late. Shit anyway.

[Guest ttfn]

At that time Wallace was only going to go for goal, put someone on the post and see what happens.

I don't think a man on the post stops that. It would have been a really awkward height and also - the ball wasn't even in the corner.

It's a good shot but the goalkeeper has done something wrong - wall selection, wall positioning, his own positioning or all three - for a free kick to go in when it's probably a yard away from the corner of the goal.

[hesapeepingtom]

His positioning is fine, St. Albans fox has got it spot on, nothing wrong with kasper there, it's a weak wall, but a brilliantly hit free kick. Some goals you just have to give it to them, like di Maria v man utd, and that free kick

Are you for real? A keeper should give himself a chance whichever side the free kick is placed,kaspar gave himself no chance to get that.yes it was well placed,but it was an open goal to aim for.

[The Doctor]

Are you for real? A keeper should give himself a chance whichever side the free kick is placed,kaspar gave himself no chance to get that.yes it was well placed,but it was an open goal to aim for.

A keeper covers one side and has a wall to cover the other - with a wall there he shouldn't be able to get it up, over and down like he did. Kasper has been let down by the wall.

[Dickov22]

A keeper covers one side and has a wall to cover the other - with a wall there he shouldn't be able to get it up, over and down like he did. Kasper has been let down by the wall.

Absolutely not. Yeah the wall has responsibility, but there no way he should have been SO far over to the left of his goal. It was so obvious what was about to happen, and it did. Bad bad mistake

[st albans fox]

A keeper covers one side and has a wall to cover the other - with a wall there he shouldn't be able to get it up, over and down like he did. Kasper has been let down by the wall.

You won't win this one doc - a distinct lack of keepers on here. People don't realise how little time you have after the ball has been struck from 20 yards. Once your weight has gone in one direction, you cannot recover. tbh, with a wall as poor as ours yesterday re the height it got off the ground, that was more like a penalty. yes kasper showed him an open side but if he had stood further to the centre of the goal, he would have had to guess which way Wallace was going and commit his weight as the ball was struck (and behind the wall he wouldn't be able to see that). Then it becomes exactly like a penalty as he goes in one direction and the ball goes the other side. as a keeper, you try and stack the odds in your favour. You show the player an open side and say 'go on - show me what you've got'. With a good wall from 20 yards, it should be a special strike to beat you (perhaps 1 in 10). that kick went over the middle of our wall where we had one of our shortest players standing. He didn't get far off the ground. if kasper is responsible for which players stand where then that's his fault. I suspect that should be sorted out on the training ground. shearer and savage had different views on this. Thinking back through their careers, I would place more value in shearers experience of free kicks at the highest level than savs.

As an aside, one thing I was pleased to see yesterday was dowd spraying the line and then tell the players to get back behind it. Much faster than pushing them back and then putting down the line.

[Izzet is God]

You won't win this one doc - a distinct lack of keepers on here. People don't realise how little time you have after the ball has been struck from 20 yards. Once your weight has gone in one direction, you cannot recover. tbh, with a wall as poor as ours yesterday re the height it got off the ground, that was more like a penalty. yes kasper showed him an open side but if he had stood further to the centre of the goal, he would have had to guess which way Wallace was going and commit his weight as the ball was struck (and behind the wall he wouldn't be able to see that). Then it becomes exactly like a penalty as he goes in one direction and the ball goes the other side. as a keeper, you try and stack the odds in your favour. You show the player an open side and say 'go on - show me what you've got'. With a good wall from 20 yards, it should be a special strike to beat you (perhaps 1 in 10). that kick went over the middle of our wall where we had one of our shortest players standing. He didn't get far off the ground. if kasper is responsible for which players stand where then that's his fault. I suspect that should be sorted out on the training ground. shearer and savage had different views on this. Thinking back through their careers, I would place more value in shearers experience of free kicks at the highest level than savs.

As an aside, one thing I was pleased to see yesterday was dowd spraying the line and then tell the players to get back behind it. Much faster than pushing them back and then putting down the line.

 

This exactly - a wall is created under a keeper's instructions , kasper gave him the window but failed to command the defending of the wall and his own positioning. Rush of blood to the head I think.

 

Wall should of jumped but kasper's positioning was still poor.

[The Doctor]

Absolutely not. Yeah the wall has responsibility, but there no way he should have been SO far over to the left of his goal. It was so obvious what was about to happen, and it did. Bad bad mistake

Again, wrong - you give them that point to aim at and tell them they've got to produce something special to get it up, over and down in that distance. The wall should provide protection in that it forces the taker to get it high to get it up and over the wall, and hopefully too high for it not to just blaze over the bar. If kasper has chosen the wall, then he's partially to blame, but it's the wall that was wrong, not kaspers positioning.

[st albans fox]

Seriously? Do we not prepare the players positions in a wall during training? That's basic. It isn't kaspers job during a game when a quick kick might be taken to tell each man where to stand. He calls 3,4 or 5 (even 6) and tells them where to stand left/right. The individual's position within the wall should be predetermined based on height. Nuge was second man from the left. He should have been swapped with DD. The only crit I have is that with Wallace standing over the ball on his own, there was no question that it would be struck left footed which means the left side of the wall did not have to go outside the posts on the unguarded side and that man could have retreated back towards the post to put doubt into the kickers mind as he was preparing to take it. that's the side of game preparation where I think we lack nouse.

[dmayne7]

A free kick that close needs to be hit perfectly to get it up and over the wall. And it was. Wallace whilst lacking in his all-round play,at, has brilliant technique and is one of the few players I actually expected to score from that. Sloppy/lazy defending and a silly foul by James.

 

Bottom line is that the players were slack yesterday and that's why we've lost. Let's not blame anyone else.

[Dickov22]

Again, wrong - you give them that point to aim at and tell them they've got to produce something special to get it up, over and down in that distance. The wall should provide protection in that it forces the taker to get it high to get it up and over the wall, and hopefully too high for it not to just blaze over the bar. If kasper has chosen the wall, then he's partially to blame, but it's the wall that was wrong, not kaspers positioning.

So the player himself spoke of his amazement at how much Kasper gave him to aim at, it's picked out on MOTD, it's picked out on Goals on Sunday, it's picked out in three online match reports I've read, yet I'm wrong.

I like Kasper, and I certainly don't want him dropped, but he was badly at fault yesterday. You can't blame a bloody wall for a free kick for god sake. Goalie's error.