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Jon the Hat

2015 Election season ..........stuff it in here.

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Not sure if this is the right thread. But lots of protests happening around downing street today, riot police in full force. I've not heard it being reported anywhere which is a bit worrying.

The protesters damaged a war monument to Women though. I don't know why they have to trash things.

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Typical socialist left wing shite. Throwing a hissy fit because the Conservatives won a fair democratic election. Pathetic wankers.

Guest Bilo
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If you vandalise war memorials, you're an idiot.

 

No question.

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protest I support, that vandalism is a disgrace though

 

Yup. It is the only thing the Daily Mail is reporting about and I bet the other papers will do the same, so that already kills any point  the protesters were making. 

Posted

If you vandalise war memorials, you're an idiot.

No question.

Definitely, I often wonder if its not a sabotage attempt. Not that I support this particular protest.
Posted

Typical socialist left wing shite. Throwing a hissy fit because the Conservatives won a fair democratic election. Pathetic wankers.

Yeah how dare people not want people's lives to be ruined or even ended by Tory cuts.
Guest Bilo
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Half a million people in London today protesting against cuts, the vast majority peaceful.

 

I'd be very surprised if these were the last protests this summer, let alone this Parliament.

Posted

Yeah how dare people not want people's lives to be ruined or even ended by Tory cuts.

If Labour hadn't borrowed and spent recklessly for 13 years those cuts wouldn't be necessary. They don't do it for shits and giggles you know.

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If Labour hadn't borrowed and spent recklessly for 13 years those cuts wouldn't be necessary. They don't do it for shits and giggles you know.

Despite the Tories actually borrowing more than labour and osbourne originally pledging to match labour spending before the global recession. This idea that it's labours fault is utter shite.

Posted

Yeah how dare people not want people's lives to be ruined or even ended by Tory cuts.

You have to wonder what impact they are expecting it to have though?
Posted

You have to wonder what impact they are expecting it to have though?

Protests and direct action are the only way of changing things now.
Posted

Despite the Tories actually borrowing more than labour and osbourne originally pledging to match labour spending before the global recession. This idea that it's labours fault is utter shite.

Of course they borrowed more, they got handed a budget deficit, its not difficult to understand.
Guest Bilo
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Protests and direct action are the only way of changing things now.

 

Not if it makes it easy for the Tory press to paint legitimate opposition as the acts of trouble making anarchists.

 

We dust ourselves down, learn the lessons of this campaign and take advantage when the honeymoon period runs out.

Posted

Protests and direct action are the only way of changing things now.

It won't change shit, not enough people wanted that direction. Get over it.
Guest Bilo
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Despite the Tories actually borrowing more than labour and osbourne originally pledging to match labour spending before the global recession. This idea that it's labours fault is utter shite.

 

You can normally tell the level of political ignorance of a person by how ready they are to believe Labour caused the financial crisis.

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You can normally tell the level of political ignorance of a person by how ready they are to believe Labour caused the financial crisis.

Didn't a number of top economists actually say that Browns economic policies minimised the damage of the financial crisis?

Guest Bilo
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Yeah let's all sit back and do nothing.

 

It's not doing nothing, it's going about things the right way.

 

There's a leadership contest to come and Labour must choose the right person to win back power. There will be by-elections, local elections and many other opportunities to chip away at the Tories democratically over the next five years. 

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It's not doing nothing, it's going about things the right way.

There's a leadership contest to come and Labour must choose the right person to win back power. There will be by-elections, local elections and many other opportunities to chip away at the Tories democratically over the next five years.

I'm sure the thousands of disabled and other vulnerable people will be delighted by that.
Guest Bilo
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Didn't a number of top economists actually say that Browns economic policies minimised the damage of the financial crisis?

 

Yes they did, the economy was also beginning to recover by 2010, albeit slowly, anyway.

 

The worst of it was in 2008-2009, but it was the same for pretty much every country in Europe.

 

Another thing Brown did to minimise the damage was to refuse to join the Euro - saved us from having to bail out Greece and Portugal to the same extent as the rest of the Eurozone.

Guest Bilo
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I'm sure the thousands of disabled and other vulnerable people will be delighted by that.

 

What more can be done?

 

It's a Tory government for five years whether we like it or not, it's very unlikely to fall apart or be voted out by Parliament and it's not going to be overthrown by street protests. 

 

The only way to challenge it is by democratic means, peaceful protest and rebuilding the opposition so it can win back power in 2020 and slowly chip away at their power in local and by-elections. Smashing up Pret a Manger and painting FVCK THE TORIES on the Cenotaph won't achieve any of that.

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In France there were country wide protests over changes in the pension age. In Britain someone wrote an angry letter to some local rag complaining about speed bumps.

Guest Kopfkino
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It's inevitable when young liberals are allowed out of the house for the first time

Guest Bilo
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In France there were country wide protests over changes in the pension age. In Britain someone wrote an angry letter to some local rag complaining about speed bumps.

 

I'm not sure France is anywhere we want to emulate politically.

 

The NF a genuine political force and slow recovery from recession.

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