Pearson: Knockeart Must Prove Leicester Worth

[Ric Flair]

Nigel is starting to feel the pressure, let's see if he can halt the implosion quickly unlike in 2012/13 season. I've every faith he will do. I also think Knockaert will start to prove his worth in the Premier League.

[65RosesFox]

No, I will make excuses. If you want the best out of your best players, then play them in their best positions. DD and James ran the show the second half of last season, yet Saturday found themselves playing on the left and right of cambiasso and King. That's not their game, and it reflected in the performances they put in.

 

You are making excuses for him because he is a "fans favourites"

 

Against Man U he played exactly the same position and seemed very comfortbale there and had a good game. and in other games this season he has played as a midfield pairing of two.

 

Against Swansea he played in midfield of two, with Hammond in front of an attacking three.

 

Against burnley he played in a midfield two with hammond.

 

But because he did so well last season for some fans he can do no wrong and must be in the team, even though his performances this season have been below average and there have been central midfield players who have been better than him this season.

 

after his last two performances and with Pearson's interview, if he stands by what he says, then Drinkwater should be dropped for Saturday.

[ScouseFox]

the most upsetting thing is he'll probably give knocky and mahrez game time at the weekend in a game we are bound to lose, they'll probably play not too bad but we're just not as good as southampton and then there will be dickwads in this thread saying "YE HE PLAYED AT DE WEEKUND AN WE NEVA WUN" 

 

[hairy]

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. But the bottom line is Frazier Campbell chose fvcking Palace over us and there's no way they're paying him £40k a week.

 

I never felt bad in the first place.

 

You're making it up

[chris_lcfc_85]

I do think this guy deserves another start though now...... Others have had chances so he deserves his.

 

He might be poor again but we wont know till we see his performance

[Fox Ulike]

I do think this guy deserves another start though now...... Others have had chances so he deserves his.

 

He might be poor again but we wont know till we see his performance

 

Well, it would be a fairly desperate move.  Mahrez and Schlupp are both way ahead in their development if you ask me.

 

If anybody is to be given a chance to start then I think it should be Powell.  I thought he looked pretty sharp when he came on on Saturday. OK he had one shot that went out for a throw-in, but I remember thinking that he caught it well! Looks like he’s got good technique and a bit of pace…

 

Knocky needs to prove himself from the bench.

[chris_lcfc_85]

Well, it would be a fairly desperate move.  Mahrez and Schlupp are both way ahead in their development if you ask me.

 

If anybody is to be given a chance to start then I think it should be Powell.  I thought he looked pretty sharp when he came on on Saturday. OK he had one shot that went out for a throw-in, but I remember thinking that he caught it well! Looks like he’s got good technique and a bit of pace…

 

Knocky needs to prove himself from the bench.

 

I think desperate is a bit harsh. He was ahead of Schlupp last year so i wouldnt say Schlupp is way ahead of him this year. Schlupp has been very hit and miss.

Knocky has only started one game in the league which essentially he wasnt fit for. Albrighton got a start at Newcastle and didnt really deliver so i defo think Knocky deserves a chance to start plus he's been knuckling down and working hard in the under 21's

 

Do agree on Powell, maybe he does too

[sylofox]

Hmmm source?

 

I do remember a stat like this one – but I think that this also includes the shots that he takes himself.

 

So, what it means is that if a player shoots everytime he gets the ball, he ends up with woeful shots stats (like Knocky has), but lots of ‘chances created’.

 

So, if I played for City and just took a shot every single time I got the ball, I could end up as the player who ‘created the most chances’, even though I’m totally shite.

 

You’d be on here demanding my inclusion in the team cos of the amount of chances I create! J

Opti stat in the sun and the way it read was chances created for other players.

They were talking about the most assists and he was third in creating but nowhere on the assist. 

[Babylon]

Opti stat in the sun and the way it read was chances created for other players.

They were talking about the most assists and he was third in creating but nowhere on the assist. 

Would you could read as they weren't very good chances, or the strikers missed them.

 

Have to say I don't remember him creating a load of chances.

[Fox Ulike]

Opti stat in the sun and the way it read was chances created for other players.

They were talking about the most assists and he was third in creating but nowhere on the assist. 

 

 

Can’t find that stat anywhere. It doesn’t appear to be carried by any of the main footy stats sites.

 

I think it’s probably more reliable to use established stats like Goals and Assists, rather than random ones that appear in the Sun! J

 

Liam Moore hurling the ball into the box from a throw-in might create a chance. Doesn’t mean he’s a creative player.

[filbertway]

Created 88 chances and had a pass completion% of 83%. Also had a shot accuracy%  of 36% haha.

 

Whoops, forgot the link.

 

http://www.squawka.com/players/anthony-knockaert-knockaert/stats#performance-score#leicester-city-(current)#football-league-championship#10#season-2013/2014#93#all-matches#1-46#by-match

[Fox Ulike]

Created 88 chances and had a pass completion% of 83%. Also had a shot accuracy%  of 36% haha.

 

Whoops, forgot the link.

 

http://www.squawka.com/players/anthony-knockaert-knockaert/stats#performance-score#leicester-city-(current)#football-league-championship#10#season-2013/2014#93#all-matches#1-46#by-match

 

Ahhh yeah.

 

36% shooting is pretty shocking. Not to mention the amount of times he concedes possession this way.

 

Wellens had a 38% shot accuracy last season. Better than Knocky for a much worse side.

 

Maybe we should bring back Wellens and play him on the wing.

[Guest ttfn]

Ahhh yeah.

36% shooting is pretty shocking. Not to mention the amount of times he concedes possession this way.

Wellens had a 38% shot accuracy last season. Better than Knocky for a much worse side.

Maybe we should bring back Wellens and play him on the wing.

What difference does the quality of side you play for make to being able to shoot on target?

36% seems pretty reasonable and a far cry from the "worst shooting accuracy in the league".

[Fox Ulike]

What difference does the quality of side you play for make to being able to shoot on target?

36% seems pretty reasonable and a far cry from the "worst shooting accuracy in the league".

Well fairly obviously, if you play for a quality side, you're going to get a better quality of teammate, and those teammates are going to provide you with a better quality of service, resulting in a better quality of shooting opportunity. Durrr!

Dean Hammond 33%.

King 59%

Mahrez 56%

Drinkwater 49

GTF 56

Dyer 44

Do you still think Knockaert's shooting accuracy is reasonable?

At least he is marginally better than hot-shot Dean Hammond!

[Guest ttfn]

Well fairly obviously, if you play for a quality side, you're going to get a better quality of teammate, and those teammates are going to provide you with a better quality of service, resulting in a better quality of shooting opportunity. Durrr!

Dean Hammond 33%.

King 59%

Mahrez 56%

Drinkwater 49

GTF 56

Dyer 44

Do you still think Knockaert's shooting accuracy is reasonable?

At least he is marginally better than hot-shot Dean Hammond!

So...he's not got the worst shooting accuracy in the division...?

Your response to my point was absolutely nonsensical. Neither Knockaert or Wellens are having chances created for them, they're going to be shooting from difficult positions as often as not regardless of who they're playing with.

If you put Wellens in the Barcelona team I doubt you'd see a material difference in the accuracy of his shooting, he's not suddenly going to be completely unmarked all the time.

Also, of course, if we do go with "the quality of team mate" point, how did King etc get such high marks that they were able to consistently hit the target when apparently, according to you and others, the quality of chance being created by Knockaert wasn't necessarily good. There's no arguing that a disproportionately high amount of out chances were created by Knockaert so which is it?

You're trying to have your cake and eat it.

Either Knockaert has some bearing in the high shooting accuracy of his team mates or the quality of his teammates is irrelevant in a comparison with Wellens.

[jamesmilner]

not been his biggest fan at times but after his last 2 u21 outings he has earned a chance imo , played well and not too fancy . whether he'd take that chance and play well against saints I really don't know ?

[Fox Ulike]

So...he's not got the worst shooting accuracy in the division...?

Your response to my point was absolutely nonsensical. Neither Knockaert or Wellens are having chances created for them, they're going to be shooting from difficult positions as often as not regardless of who they're playing with.

If you put Wellens in the Barcelona team I doubt you'd see a material difference in the accuracy of his shooting, he's not suddenly going to be completely unmarked all the time.

Also, of course, if we do go with "the quality of team mate" point, how did King etc get such high marks that they were able to consistently hit the target when apparently, according to you and others, the quality of chance being created by Knockaert wasn't necessarily good. There's no arguing that a disproportionately high amount of out chances were created by Knockaert so which is it?

You're trying to have your cake and eat it.

Either Knockaert has some bearing in the high shooting accuracy of his team mates or the quality of his teammates is irrelevant in a comparison with Wellens.

OK. So let me get this straight. You're giving two reasons why Knocky's shooting stats are so low:

1. Because he's single-handedly creating really good chances for his teammates. So it's not that his stats are actually low, it's that the others are disproportionally high because Knocky is tirelessly putting them on a plate" for everyone else.

2. When he does shoot, he shoots from "difficult positions". This we can agree on. It's why his shots mostly sail harmlessly over the bar. This is sort of "The Whole Point".

You're not that little dwarf brother of his are you?

[Guest ttfn]

OK. So let me get this straight. You're giving two reasons why Knocky's shooting stats are so low:

1. Because he's single-handedly creating really good chances for his teammates. So it's not that his stats are actually low, it's that the others are disproportionally high because Knocky is tirelessly putting them on a plate" for everyone else.

2. When he does shoot, he shoots from "difficult positions". This we can agree on. It's why his shots mostly sail harmlessly over the bar. This is sort of "The Whole Point".

You're not that little dwarf brother of his are you?

Rumbled.

I'm not arguing for him, I'm arguing against you, because what you're saying does not make sense logically. The burden of proof was on you that he had "the lowest shooting accuracy in the championship" (he didn't).

As for the first point you've deliberately misinterpreted my point. You said he was poor at shooting compared to others and that other players' apparently comparably "poor" shooting was excusable because they had inferior team mates.

All I've said is you can't have it both ways. Either Knockaert, as a key chance creator for a team with players with high shot accuracy, takes some credit for that shot accuracy or Wellens' stats are not somehow better because he plays with better players.

It's your choice; I'm not saying either is true, but unless you're suggesting that the chances created by all the other players are so disproportionately better than Knockaert's that the most prolific chance creator in the championship has to be entirely discounted, logically you have to either concede that his team mates do not have any bearing on his shooting or he has to take some credit for the high shot accuracy of his team mates.

So, does the quality of chance created have a bearing on shot accuracy or not?

[ScouseFox]

i'd rather knockaert ran with the ball and had an inaccurate shot than play 4 cms who all stand on each other's toes doing f uck all 

[Guest ttfn]

i'd rather knockaert ran with the ball and had an inaccurate shot than play 4 cms who all stand on each other's toes doing f uck all

If Knockaert played for Doncaster he'd have 0% shot accuracy anyway so it wouldn't make any difference.

[ScouseFox]

if knockaert played for doncaster i'd cry myself to sleep 

[VLC86]

if knockaert played for doncaster i'd cry myself to sleep

You have to admit it would be funny after his alleged comments in the French press about wanting to play for a bigger team.

[Bettsj2]

What a pile of crap. The facts are you have absolutely no idea what the reasons are for us failing to sign some of our targets. You are just deciding, without a single fact that it's all Pearson's fault.

Maybe it was Pearson's fault, maybe it was the Director of Football, maybe it was down to geography, maybe it was down to the budget, maybe it was down to 100 other possible reasons.

Crystal Palace weren't a newly promoted team, they had a tried and tested manager in charge and comfortably stayed up under him the year previously. You also have no idea what they are paying him, or what we offered him.

Instead of jumping to conclusions in an attempt you suit your argument, why not just stick to what you know?

You're exactly right. Pulis is tried and tested and took a shite Palace team to comfortable survival.

Defo get him in.

[Bettsj2]

What a load of shit. Coming out with comments like that about transfers. Yeah you're right, a manager who led his team to over 100 points last season, rebuilding the team on a shoestring, having to sort Sven's utter mess, playing attractive football isn't a draw for players. That's why he convinced Cambiasso to sign.

If you thought Drinkwater was average at Stoke you're blind. He changed the game for us along with Cambiasso. I'd like to know who you'd prefer to see in the side.

We didn't even try and sign Campbell.

You're right. We just triggered his release clause for shits and giggles.

I wish people would stop banging on about the rebuilding job he's done. Ask Southampton fans if they wish Nigel Adkins was still in charge?

Sentimentality will get us relegated.

Pearson has lost the plot.

[Bettsj2]

i'd rather knockaert ran with the ball and had an inaccurate shot than play 4 cms who all stand on each other's toes doing f uck all

THIS

But I think we all know that Pearson would prefer to see Dean Hammond play a safe 2 yard pass to try and scrape a draw than have Knocky actually trying to create something to win us a game.