Pearson: Knockeart Must Prove Leicester Worth

[Fox Ulike]

The difference is Knockaert is a match winner being kept out by subpar grafters

 

Knocky is more like a match-loser with the way he plays.

 

He concedes possession too often and too easily. Just because this doesn't directly result in conceding a goal doesn't mean it's not a problem.

 

He's potentially a great player, but he needs to realise that the team comes first.

[filbertway]

I love how that is now the defacto description of Knocky. "Gives the ball away too much". He probably touches the ball the most as he's always demanding it and looking to try and make something happen. Really hope he gets given a decent chance soon.

 

A spell on the touchline isn't a bad idea for a lad like him as he does have that self confidence that can sometimes lead to sloppy displays. I just hope the effects are long standing and he ups his game in the long term rather than for 1 or 2 games.

[LcFc_Smiv]

Knocky is more like a match-loser with the way he plays.

 

He concedes possession too often and too easily. Just because this doesn't directly result in conceding a goal doesn't mean it's not a problem.

 

He's potentially a great player, but he needs to realise that the team comes first.

 

Match loser comment is particularly harsh, the rest of what you said is fairly agreeable.

[LcFc_Smiv]

I love how that is now the defacto description of Knocky. "Gives the ball away too much". He probably touches the ball the most as he's always demanding it and looking to try and make something happen. Really hope he gets given a decent chance soon.

 

A spell on the touchline isn't a bad idea for a lad like him as he does have that self confidence that can sometimes lead to sloppy displays. I just hope the effects are long standing and he ups his game in the long term rather than for 1 or 2 games.

 

In which a defending argument could be that he should be producing more opportunities than what he currently does. He's got some skill and he can be a joy to watch, but I think he's not physically adapted to the skilful style he tries to play. He's not quick enough to beat his man, his close ball control when taking on an opposition player leaves a lot to be desired and when he goes shoulder to shoulder with a defender, like the situations he plays himself into, he comes off second best. Yet we have seen him play neat little pass and moves down the line, or nice little through balls and such, he's productive in such play, but we don't see it enough.

[hairy]

Let us not forget that this is written by a reporter needing to make a story. Accurate reporting is not essential

 

This thread appears to more about having a go at Pearson for not playing OP's favourite player and trying to pin the recent bad form on this.

 

Put simply, Nocky has not shown he is good enough in his appearances so far, no doubt this is reflected on the training ground too. Why take a performing player out of the team to give an under performing one a chance? You may use him as a sub if you were sure of a victory but nothing more.

[Bettsj2]

How do you know the manager didn't try and sign more players in the summer? Do you really think he wanted to start the season with Konchesky at left back? Fact is, we don't know what goes on in the transfer market but there were several occasions over the summer where NP hinted at his frustrations about transfers.

Drinkwater hasn't been rubbish all season. He was class at Stoke and played well in the Man Utd and Arsenal games. Granted he's been poor last few but playing right midfield against WBA he just couldn't get in the game. Wrong position for him. You don't become a bad player overnight. Stop being so fickle

Yes he tried and woefully failed to attract new players. He's not a draw for players.

Drinkwater wasnt class at Stoke he was very average and wasnt much better against Arsenal. It hasnt happened overnight, its happened over the first 10 games of the season.

[hairy]

Yes he tried and woefully failed to attract new players. He's not a draw for players.

 

Bollox. A newly promoted side is not attractive for players to join as they might find themselves in the Championship next season with 2 years to play on their contract. its not the manager being unattractive

[lgfualol]

Put simply, Nocky has not shown he is good enough in his appearances so far, no doubt this is reflected on the training ground too. Why take a performing player out of the team to give an under performing one a chance? You may use him as a sub if you were sure of a victory but nothing more.

 

Have we got any of those? No goals since Burnley and rarely a shot on target surely means that they're not performing in attack.

[sylofox]

In which a defending argument could be that he should be producing more opportunities than what he currently does. He's got some skill and he can be a joy to watch, but I think he's not physically adapted to the skilful style he tries to play. He's not quick enough to beat his man, his close ball control when taking on an opposition player leaves a lot to be desired and when he goes shoulder to shoulder with a defender, like the situations he plays himself into, he comes off second best. Yet we have seen him play neat little pass and moves down the line, or nice little through balls and such, he's productive in such play, but we don't see it enough.

3rd Highest creator of chances last season in the division.

Not his fault Nuge and Vardy did not finish them off and others too.

 

What chance has he had this season to prove himself and like the rest of our squad he is young and this is a big jump up.

[Fox Ulike]

I love how that is now the defacto description of Knocky. "Gives the ball away too much". He probably touches the ball the most as he's always demanding it and looking to try and make something happen. Really hope he gets given a decent chance soon.

 

A spell on the touchline isn't a bad idea for a lad like him as he does have that self confidence that can sometimes lead to sloppy displays. I just hope the effects are long standing and he ups his game in the long term rather than for 1 or 2 games.

 

But it doesn't really matter how often he touches the ball if the vast majority of touches result in the loss of possession.

 

Based on what you're saying, Knocky would be more effective if he didn't touch the ball!

[Guest ttfn]

I love how that is now the defacto description of Knocky. "Gives the ball away too much". He probably touches the ball the most as he's always demanding it and looking to try and make something happen. Really hope he gets given a decent chance soon.

A spell on the touchline isn't a bad idea for a lad like him as he does have that self confidence that can sometimes lead to sloppy displays. I just hope the effects are long standing and he ups his game in the long term rather than for 1 or 2 games.

Exactly this. It's an inevitability that he will lose possession frequently trying to do "stupid" stuff because he's trying to make something happen. At the moment we've got 4 central midfielders playing none of whom seem capable of (or perhaps in Cambiasso's case advanced enough to be) making a creative contribution.

I've got plenty of time for midfielders moving the ball quickly and simply but I think that every team needs somebody capable of the unpredictable. The team we had on Saturday didn't have that and without Mahrez and Knockaert we don't have that capability in the squad.

Having neither in the starting XI is the wider problem here. But I will say that Mahrez gets away with an awful lot that Knockaert would get (and does get, often rightly) slaughtered for.

[Guest ttfn]

But it doesn't really matter how often he touches the ball if the vast majority of touches result in the loss of possession.

Based on what you're saying, Knocky would be more effective if he didn't touch the ball!

An extraordinary use of the term "vast majority".

[Captain...]

I've done more than enough to deserve starting ahead of Schlupp and I do **** all all day

 

1 goal and 1 assist from Schlupp, how many you got?

[Bettsj2]

Bollox. A newly promoted side is not attractive for players to join as they might find themselves in the Championship next season with 2 years to play on their contract. its not the manager being unattractive

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. But the bottom line is Frazier Campbell chose fvcking Palace over us and there's no way they're paying him £40k a week.

[Babylon]

Yes he tried and woefully failed to attract new players. He's not a draw for players.

 

What a pile of crap. The facts are you have absolutely no idea what the reasons are for us failing to sign some of our targets. You are just deciding, without a single fact that it's all Pearson's fault.

 

Maybe it was Pearson's fault, maybe it was the Director of Football, maybe it was down to geography, maybe it was down to the budget, maybe it was down to 100 other possible reasons.

 

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. But the bottom line is Frazier Campbell chose fvcking Palace over us and there's no way they're paying him £40k a week.

Crystal Palace weren't a newly promoted team, they had a tried and tested manager in charge and comfortably stayed up under him the year previously. You also have no idea what they are paying him, or what we offered him.

 

Instead of jumping to conclusions in an attempt you suit your argument, why not just stick to what you know?

[Fox Ulike]

An extraordinary use of the term "vast majority".

 

True. I got a bit carried away there.

 

He just concedes possession when he doesn’t need to. Unforced errors I guess you’d call them (including shooting when he should pass). Two spectacular goals per season doesn’t make up for that.

 

There is a stat somewhere that shows that he had the highest % of off-target shots of any midfielder in the Championship last season.

 

That is a pretty damning stat when you think we romped the league.

 

We can’t get away with any passengers in the Prem.

[sylofox]

But it doesn't really matter how often he touches the ball if the vast majority of touches result in the loss of possession.

 

Based on what you're saying, Knocky would be more effective if he didn't touch the ball!

Seems the fact I put above your post was lost on you.

However it does seem to fvck up your theory.

 

In case you missed it here it is again.

 

Last season Knocky was the 3rd highest chance creator in the division.

[Dickov22]

Yes he tried and woefully failed to attract new players. He's not a draw for players.

Drinkwater wasnt class at Stoke he was very average and wasnt much better against Arsenal. It hasnt happened overnight, its happened over the first 10 games of the season.

What a load of shit. Coming out with comments like that about transfers. Yeah you're right, a manager who led his team to over 100 points last season, rebuilding the team on a shoestring, having to sort Sven's utter mess, playing attractive football isn't a draw for players. That's why he convinced Cambiasso to sign.

If you thought Drinkwater was average at Stoke you're blind. He changed the game for us along with Cambiasso. I'd like to know who you'd prefer to see in the side.

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. But the bottom line is Frazier Campbell chose fvcking Palace over us and there's no way they're paying him £40k a week.

We didn't even try and sign Campbell.

[Fox Ulike]

3rd Highest creator of chances last season in the division.

Not his fault Nuge and Vardy did not finish them off and others too.

 

What chance has he had this season to prove himself and like the rest of our squad he is young and this is a big jump up.

 

Hmmm source?

 

I do remember a stat like this one – but I think that this also includes the shots that he takes himself.

 

So, what it means is that if a player shoots everytime he gets the ball, he ends up with woeful shots stats (like Knocky has), but lots of ‘chances created’.

 

So, if I played for City and just took a shot every single time I got the ball, I could end up as the player who ‘created the most chances’, even though I’m totally shite.

 

You’d be on here demanding my inclusion in the team cos of the amount of chances I create! J

[Babylon]

Hmmm source?

 

I do remember a stat like this one – but I think that this also includes the shots that he takes himself.

 

So, what it means is that if a player shoots everytime he gets the ball, he ends up with woeful shots stats (like Knocky has), but lots of ‘chances created’.

 

So, if I played for City and just took a shot every single time I got the ball, I could end up as the player who ‘created the most chances’, even though I’m totally shite.

 

You’d be on here demanding my inclusion in the team cos of the amount of chances I create! J

Also, what constitutes a chance? Is that someone shooting from 30 yards as well? Do corner takers get a chance created against their name?

[Renart]

Ummm, what NP is saying seems totally reasonable. What is the fuss? The thing is if Knocky now gets an opportunity and puts in a good game then there will be those on the forum who will ask why he wasn't picked sooner and completely miss the point that it might be the management of him (ie leaving him out) that leads to him having a good game. We have seen this happen with Knocky on numerous occasions over the last two seasons, and he comes back better - he is that kind of player. The thing is we cannot see what would happen if he was played every week and, therefore, don't know what is happening behind the scenes. Let the manager do his job - I trust him on this one.  Of course he has to fight for his place in the squad and in the team. No brainer. Why read it in any other way than the way it is intended. He hasn't said that there is no place for him and so we can only read that he is still part of the manager's plans. Silly conversation.

[Fox Ulike]

Also, what constitutes a chance? Is that someone shooting from 30 yards as well? Do corner takers get a chance created against their name?

 

Good point...

 

Years ago we were losing against 2-3 Southampton in the last minute. The ball went out of play near me, and there wasn’t a ball boy to collect it.

 

So. I jumped onto the side of the pitch and smartly kicked the ball to Simon Morgan to take the throw-in. He threw it into the box… and someone shot wide.

 

Foxulike: “chances created” : 1

 

That’s one more than Knocky this season.

 

I am available Saturday…

[LcFc_Smiv]

3rd Highest creator of chances last season in the division.

Not his fault Nuge and Vardy did not finish them off and others too.

 

What chance has he had this season to prove himself and like the rest of our squad he is young and this is a big jump up.

Where has this stat come from, I'm not questioning it, just curious to what a 'chance' is? As for Vardy and Nugent, you really want to question our two top goal scorers from last season, one of which was involved in 33 of our goals for the season, scoring 20 and getting 13 assists yet our fans are still going to ignore those stats because his performances have not been up to scratch this season. He's been given a few chances and he hasn't delivered but it's obviously something other than his performances that are keeping him out of the team, we do not have an unfair manager who is keeping players out of the squad for no reason.

[Robin JD Popley]

I know it happened a couple of weeks ago, but can you all remember NP's remarks about Anthony taking to social media and 'telling everyone about it' (or words to that effect?) I think it was in relation to transfers and general conjucture but I am convinced he is not best pleased with his conduct outside of training - same could have been said of Neil Danns. Remember, flavour of the month when Nigel first came back...then after the summer break, hardly played for us again.

 

Purely speculative and I do not think only Anthony is culprable of this online interaction with us as fans and I think it is a good thing but now and again he has had outbursts online and I think that may be one of the contributing factors for this apparent rift.

 

That, said, I've always liked him as a player and although he is incredibly frustrating on occassions, there's only one Tony K!

[Kitchandro]

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. But the bottom line is Frazier Campbell chose fvcking Palace over us and there's no way they're paying him £40k a week.

 

Palace are in London you dope, of course he'd rather join them. Footballer's like Campbell don't give a shite about managers or football clubs they're only bothered about how and where they can spend their money.

 

Plus who cares, it's Frazer Campbell.