Chances not falling for Ulloa

[4ever and ever]

After the electric start and scoring 5 in 5 the goals have dried up, I have however still been impressed by his all round play but i am interested to know peoples thoughts on why the chances we create dont seem to be falling for him at all. The last real chance I remember him having was Newcastle away. Is it that he isnt getting into the right positions anymore? Being marked much more tightly? We playing a lot down the channels now Vardy is playing when he wasnt at the start of the season and therefore not getting as many "traditional" deeper crosses into the box? 

 

What are peoples thoughts?

[Vossen]

He's playing too deep, more like a kingy roll

[4ever and ever]

I agree he has dropped slightly deeper as at the start of the season Nugent was playing as the deeper of the two but still see him in and around the box a fair bit just not getting chances!

[Vossen]

He was helping out schlupp on the left wing V QPR...

WTF

[Lineker's Left Foot]

Is trying too hard and searching for the ball all of the time whilst not being in the box - where he should always be IMO

[Riot Van]

He is obviously being told to drop deep...

 

Against Sunderland he created the most chances out of any player in the game (4) and effectively set up Cambiasso's goal vs QPR.  Everyone may think he is playing bad because he isn't scoring but in the past two games in particular, he has been one of our best players.

[4ever and ever]

He is obviously being told to drop deep...

 

Against Sunderland he created the most chances out of any player in the game (4) and effectively set up Cambiasso's goal vs QPR.  Everyone may think he is playing bad because he isn't scoring but in the past two games in particular, he has been one of our best players.

Like I said in the original post I have been very impressed with his all round game and his link up play has been great IMO, just want more chances to be falling to him

[lgfualol]

Emulating Chris Wood.

[JIMMYWILLIS]

With the clear message from Pearson that graft comes first he can't afford to hang around the box waiting for things. This means he is helping out deeper and not then available should a chance be created on the break. So pearsons work ethic mantra seems to be having a negative effect in some areas.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

I think his all round game is poor, he is slow, lacks vision and always wants too many touches. Horrendous linking up.  I'd be inclined to drop him and play Vardy up front with Mahrez in an advanced supporting position

[DB11]

I think similarly to Chris Wood when his goalscoring stopped. Pearson must be telling them to work hard for the time instead of just waiting for a chance, although this is possibly at the detriment to scoring goals.

 

You only need to remember back to Yakubu when he was lazy and didn't work, yet stayed up front and kept scoring. Fans were getting on his back! 

[jammie82uk]

I agree he has dropped slightly deeper as at the start of the season Nugent was playing as the deeper of the two but still see him in and around the box a fair bit just not getting chances!

It's completely this since nugent has been dropped ulloa has been playing in his role with vardy in his previous role as the out n out striker

[LCCFox96]

I think Ulloa is a player we need to and should expect to carry somewhat. It's not necessarily his game to come deep for the ball and run to help the midfield. He 18 yard predator who has proven he can finish on a very limited number of chances and someone who poses a constant ariel threat in attack and defence. When he came off against QPR we looked considerably weaker at defending our own corners and had a limited ariel threat upfront. 

Ulloa is not the problem. Given the chances I'm confident he will start scoring again. Our problem is our leaky defence and lack of creativity - problems which lead back to the same questions. In defence - Why wasn't our central defence strengthened beyond Upson? Why did the new left back never materialise? Why does Simpson never play when RDL has been very, very poor in many recent games? In attack - Why did it take so long for Mahrez to get starting regularly? Why are creative players like Powell and Knockaert not involved when we are evidently struggling for chances? 

 

I like NP and think if he solves these problems we'll be fine. In my opinion it has little to with Ulloa and chances not falling for him.

[Manwell Pablo]

Ulloa is our target man, main striker, and cost a club record fee,  you can make up fictional managerial instructions to excuse him not scoring goals if you want. Unless he starts scoring, i.e getting in good positions and admittedly the rest of the team improve our service into him, or he is replaced by someone who can do the above, we're going down.  

[4ever and ever]

Ulloa is our target man, main striker, and cost a club record fee,  you can make up fictional managerial instructions to excuse him not scoring goals if you want. Unless he starts scoring, i.e getting in good positions and admittedly the rest of the team improve our service into him, or he is replaced by someone who can do the above, we're going down.  

But surely they aren't fictional if the manager is actively telling him to come deeper and depriving the "main striker", "target man", "Club record fee" of scoring opportunities?? I think it is a combination of things but agree he needs to be getting in better positions otherwise he wont score many more all season. 

[Simo86]

But surely they aren't fictional if the manager is actively telling him to come deeper and depriving the "main striker", "target man", "Club record fee" of scoring opportunities?? I think it is a combination of things but agree he needs to be getting in better positions otherwise he wont score many more all season. 

They are fictional if you are guessing what the manager is telling him

[RowlattsFox]

It's what happens when u lose a bit of confidence, you'd rather not have chances than miss then.

[WardyisPukka]

Agreed that he's dropping back far too much - Pearson needs to tell him STAY up top 

[4ever and ever]

They are fictional if you are guessing what the manager is telling him

Ok, so he has chosen to drop deeper off his own back every game and is then being told to get further forward by the manager the next. I can see exactly where you are coming from. He is obviously not following his managers instructions.

[Benji]

Needs to get back to basics. I don't mind him being a luxury player for 80 minutes and not doing the tracking back/going out wide work that he has been doing if you can guarantee everytime the ball is in the box he is there or there abouts. Phenominal headerer (I'm sure that's not a word) of the ball.

[Fox Ulike]

When Ulloa plays alongside Vardy one of them has to drop deep because we’re currently playing with two CMs whose natural game is to sit deep.

 

So there’s always a big gap between our CMs and our CFs which Ulloa is inexpertly trying to fill.

 

We need King, Powell or Nugent in the team at the expense of Vardy.

 

This isn’t really ‘tactics’ or ‘formation’ it’s more ‘geography’. There is a big area of the pitch (between the forwards and the midfield) which none of our current starting 11 naturally operate in. if you just concede this territory to the opposition as we are doing, then you will lose.

 

Vardy and Ulloa won’t work in the Premiership. Cambiasso and James won’t work full stop. I’ve been saying this for a while now and I don’t know why Pearson has stopped reading my posts.

[Manwell Pablo]

But surely they aren't fictional if the manager is actively telling him to come deeper and depriving the "main striker", "target man", "Club record fee" of scoring opportunities?? I think it is a combination of things but agree he needs to be getting in better positions otherwise he wont score many more all season. 

 

And how on earth do you know he is being instructed to do that, been in the dressing room have you?

[Manwell Pablo]

Ok, so he has chosen to drop deeper off his own back every game and is then being told to get further forward by the manager the next. I can see exactly where you are coming from. He is obviously not following his managers instructions.

 

Jesus.

 

I would suggest to you is being forced to drop back deeper, he has become increasingly isolated in recent games.

 

I somewhat doubt Pearson has looked at this performance in the first 6 games and gone "do you know what lad, your scoring to many goals, drop deeper and link up so a few of the other lads can get a few"

 

it's just a natural cause of the formations we've been playing the teams we're up against and IMO his own lack of discipline and positioning. 

[Stevosevic]

I'd go with Mahrez playing off Ulloa. 

[4ever and ever]

Jesus.

 

I would suggest to you is being forced to drop back deeper, he has become increasingly isolated in recent games.

 

I somewhat doubt Pearson has looked at this performance in the first 6 games and gone "do you know what lad, your scoring to many goals, drop deeper and link up so a few of the other lads can get a few"

 

it's just a natural cause of the formations we've been playing the teams we're up against and IMO his own lack of discipline and positioning. 

Whilst being forced to drop deeper at times during matches of course happens as we are more often than not without the ball but not for 90 minutes. He will as another poster alluded to, done it to accommodate Vardy into the team as his pace is our main threat in the current side, one player has to be that link that is currently Ulloa. I very much doubt Pearson would have envisaged the goals to dry up like they have but him playing deeper on the whole has in my opinion has been a tactical decision.