The Drum...

[Soup]

If SK1 gets a drum I'm taking a Tuba in.

Don't forget your pipe and slippers.

[Dan]

The standard of drummer helps. Jobber is a poor drummer.

[Babylon]

Don't forget your pipe and slippers.

Yeah cause anyone not wanting to be next to a drum is really old a boring. I come from the era of not needing some muppet banging on a drum to create an atmosphere, you should try it.

[Babylon]

The standard of drummer helps. Jobber is a poor drummer.

Is the drummer from Deaf Leopard up to anything these days?

[Stadt]

I don't know where we could find a better drummer (and drum) but we need to.

A drum like this:

[Trav Le Bleu]

I don't mind the drum but I do mind how reliant a lot of people seem on it to be what starts chants.

 

100% this. If Jobber stops then so does the chanting.

[Soup]

Yeah cause anyone not wanting to be next to a drum is really old a boring. I come from the era of not needing some muppet banging on a drum to create an atmosphere, you should try it.

Mate I'm old enough to remember them days as well,but there long gone and are never coming back.A different approach is drastically needed or the game we all fell in love with is going to die.If you seriously don't want the drum then fine but I'm defiantly in for having some sort of drum up there.

[AndWhat?]

there long gone and are never coming back.A different approach is drastically needed or the game we all fell in love with is going to die.

Well said

[NotTheMarketLeader]

As a break from the incessant Pearson In/Out debate that grows greater every game, may we take the opportunity to do a little market research (sorry Sean) on a suggestion that was raised at the most recent Fans Consultative Committee meeting on 26 November 2014.

To paraphrase our minutes from the meeting (which can be found in full here) regarding the drum:

• Susan Whelan said that the Club would like to find out more supporters’ opinions about the drum.
• Jamie Tabor advised that there are five different sizes of drum available to the drummer. They have found the largest to be most effective as it offers a deeper sound which carries further, with the intention of getting all sections of the ground singing in unison, rather than different chants coming from different areas at the same time.
• Susan Whelan said the Club are open to the idea of a ‘Kop leader’ to facilitate unity of the Kop and said this could be explored further. One committee member suggested using a microphone to channel the sound of the drum through the speakers to enhance the sound, and Susan Whelan acknowledged that the idea could be looked in to.
• The Club has not received any complaints about the drum but one man did move his season ticket elsewhere as he didn’t want to be near the drum. Otherwise, feedback has been positive.

With the above in mind, we would like to get your opinions of the drum. Please take the time to leave comments below, whether you have any strong feelings (either for or against) or whether you are apathetic towards it, as well as using the voting buttons.

Thank you,

Union FS

GET IT DONE! Big drum, kop leader, speakers the lot. This is what's required to get our fans going. We need to create some excitement to get them stoked up to improve the atmosphere and enjoyment for all. As much as some of us put the effort in vocally, it's only a handful of us doing our best at the moment. 90% not interested, so if this helps, Im all for it PL or Championship!!

[Voll Blau]

Anything that means songs won't be sung at a trillion miles an hour has to be a good thing. Piping Jobber through the ground would be fvcking awful though.

[KFS]

What's the rule on megaphones in English football other than that you might piss people off?

[promised land]

Drumming sections are a big part of Brazilian football support

contibuting to some points raised here

- they are many drummers 2 or 3 of each size at the games here, gets very loud so you hear them around the ground

- having separated drummers far away from each other would not work imo and could even work against getting the crowd in sync

Here is the problem, two drummers 70 odd yards apart cannot play together as the sound travels it would be like a bad dj trying to mix two tracks with different bpm's.

You can here it now with the singing, part of the ground starts singing, others join in but the words are lost as you cannot all sing at the same time when at opposite ends of the ground.

If you need a 2nd drummer, it has to be completely independent of the L block one, this would lead to different songs at the same time in different areas of the ground but it's better than all trying to sing the songs when a sound delay is clearly heard and then losing words.

If the 2nd drum is smaller it would be a laughing stock like Bristol City a few seasons ago, Jobber took his, they had a snare drum.

'You can shove your tambourine up your ares', funny at the time but that's what a smaller drum would sound like.

Personally I'd drop the one we have but it's not upto me to make the decisions.

[StanSP]

Question 4 - I'd rather not relocate because I'm comfortable where I sit for matches. If there was an option to complain to the club or whoever necessary I'd have checked that. 

[Soup]

Anything that means songs won't be sung at a trillion miles an hour has to be a good thing. Piping Jobber through the ground would be fvcking awful though.

Agree there,that can't happen as it would be a complete disaster.

[KFS]

Agree there,that can't happen as it would be a complete disaster.

STWB and I saw you on the tv the other night at the Villa game.

Just an aside...

[Soup]

STWB and I saw you on the tv the other night at the Villa game.

Just an aside...

I got bombarded with texts at the time,sober as a judge as well.

[oohaahmustafa]

Initially thought I'm against this as the drum just reminds me of WLY being sang by L1 and I fecking hate that song. But reading through the thread and thinking about it perhaps a small drum would be ok in sk1. As mentioned people do get going more when someones banging on the back. As long as it's in the right hands I think it could work. Mayb Steve Walsh flag guy? Is that soup Nazi? In an ideal world we wouldn't need one. But to be fair it would probably help.

[KFS]

I nominate Soup Nazi for SK1 drummer

[LcfcBaker]

I nominate Soup Nazi for SK1 drummer

I concur

[Monsell1976]

If the drum was moved to say h block, it could link the chants from the blocks l to sk1/2 etc.

If we could get the east stand and kop all singing the same chants, surely the atmosphere should spread.

From what I heard sk1 has some very good vocal fans, and from l1 can see them clapping, as if they are singing, but due to the ground, can't hear them.

The drum in the middle of the 2 could just be the link to get us all singing the same songs at the same time

[Grewks]

Performances on the pitch will bring support from the fans.

 

 

Just see the United game. Every stand was bouncing with the Jamie Vardy song.

 

 

 

Constant noise and constant chanting has very little affect on the players, you would simply get used to it. It is more the roar of anticipation of an attacking move, the appreciation of a good/important tackle or save etc...That will lift individual players not 'Leicester, Leicester, Leicester Leicesterrrrrrrrr'.

[Monsell1976]

Performances on the pitch will bring support from the fans.

Just see the United game. Every stand was bouncing with the Jamie Vardy song.

Constant noise and constant chanting has very little affect on the players, you would simply get used to it. It is more the roar of anticipation of an attacking move, the appreciation of a good/important tackle or save etc...That will lift individual players not 'Leicester, Leicester, Leicester Leicesterrrrrrrrr'.

Totally agree, alluded to that on the man city atmosphere thread.

The problem is, we have lost the spark on the pitch, and the ideas being suggested could, maybe improve the atmosphere in the harder times.

Or fans have changed, and there is a percentage that don't want to sing, but are prepared to get excited, clap, and jump around when we are doing well in games, in which case the only way to improve it, would be like palace, the club have a designated area for fans that want the atmosphere and make a noise.

People will say l1 is, but not all are in there for the singing.

[C-man]

Question 4 - I'd rather not relocate because I'm comfortable where I sit for matches. If there was an option to complain to the club or whoever necessary I'd have checked that.

Not having a pop or whatever, but why? Would be useful to know so that the Club can be made are aware of people's reservations.

[C-man]

I have a whole host of opinions on the drum, and I admit my viewpoint has changed massively over the last five years since I've been travelling over to Europe to watch football on the continent.

I used to think the drum was pretty tin pot, a waste of time, added nothing to the atmosphere - but having seen the usage at other clubs in the UK and across Europe I realised that they can be used to great effect, if in the right hands and located in the right places.

I agree with plenty of the sentiment above that we have become way too reliant on it. I'm not in L1, but hearing the accounts that people were actively looking for it on Tuesday does not surprise me in the slightest. Having spoken to him personally on this very subject, I know that Jobber has on occasion taken a bit of stick for following some chants rather than others which is totally unfair given he barely wants the job in the first place. Would be good to get a volunteer to replace him - someone respected in L1 that has an appreciation for when chants are dying out, when they need perking up again etc. Surely someone fancies a go at it? The size of it really would depend on how often the (proposed) new user would want to be making use of it, but I can see the logic of having a bigger one in L to get the Family Stand involved etc.

Also in favour of getting a smaller one in SK1 with the Union FS boys - small enough to place on a seat (everyone budge up a bit!). I know that there are some seriously good graded drummers in the group, which is a great start. I'd like that one to be used to keep chants going, keep the rhythm of songs to a nice pace and start the occasional one such as BLUES! If it stops the banging on the Perspex, I'd like to think the Club wouldn't mind a trial of this either.

Whether it is able to link L1 and the Kop is debatable. I find it hard to hear L1 over ourselves as it is, let alone if we add a drum into the equation, but if it gets the Kop going - which I believe it can - then that's good enough for me!

[StanSP]

Not having a pop or whatever, but why? Would be useful to know so that the Club can be made are aware of people's reservations.

 

Just not keen on it and at the games I've been to this season I've barely noticed it (this could be because I sit in the opposite corner to the away fans) so possibly the furthest point away from it. I'm not sure if I've always not been so keen on it really and not sure how much significance it has when creating an atmosphere. Pretty much like goal music - does it really add anything to the atmosphere? How many years have we (collectively as a fan group) moaned at the atmosphere at the ground? The drum has neither been to a detriment or a benefit to the atmosphere in my eyes (ears!)