cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 For me we need to spend. Relegation seems to be an acceptable thing for fans on this forum, I'm sorry but after 10 years It's NOT acceptable for me. The uproar caused on here when we failed at watford was almost laughable, so to see people accepting that after the 10 years of failure we could drop back down to the lottery of the championship is ridiculous, if we went down without a whimper this year, low on confidence and not strung 3 wins together, why do people think it's a forgone conclusion we would bounce straight back up, and not get some of our better players snapped up? Why don't you ask the fans of all the clubs that went down and didn't come back up when expected to rinse the league? Leeds united, Cardiff, Fulham, Derby, Forest, Middlesborough, WOLVES, Bolton, Blackburn and more.... If we go down without a fight and accept it like it's all part of a master plan I'll seriously consider supporting someone else, This club is in my veins but my god we have some deluded fans. Relegation could spell absolute disaster.. AGAIN. and is an absolute LAST RESORT for me. We need to bring in 5/6 players for me and spend whatever it takes to get them in, However we are in possibly the worst transfer situation. - January is typically the worst market to work through with overpriced players with the buying clubs usually being slightly desperate to strengthen. - Proven players at this level would be hard to attract, however they could be affordable, for example Yacob or mulumbu, These players are not likely to want to drop in wages if we get relegated, and will command a bigger wage fee. - Younger players would be affordable with regard to wages, but their purchasing fee would be vastly overpriced. - Not many players want to come down to the bottom of the table unless they are coming up from the championship. Players I think we should/could go for who are realistically Affordable on wages and on transfer fee - Box to box midfielder with alot of presence - Mulumbu - Solid Midfielder out of contract in the summer, not the biggest wage and could be cheap. Yacob - Solid Midfielder out of contract in the summer, not the biggest wage and could be cheap. Diaby - On loan, Wenger has always rated him very highly, unfortunately his injuries could cause an issue, Would strengthen us no doubt, Loan only. Flamini (Not alot of presence) but could be decent for us, Contract up in summer and likely to leave for nothing. Left back - Martin Olsson - Decent Left back who could step up to the premier league again, fast and knows his job. Izaguirre (Celtic) Decent Left back and one of their best performers consistently. Marcell Jansen - This would be a BIG move, probably too good for us? contract out in summer. Centre back - Tall with a bit of speed Curtis Davies - Cheap enough, Get him in, make him captain. Winston Reid - West ham are finding a replacement to him in Nkoulou and he would be available for around 3m, Experienced, Big and strong. Maya Yoshida - Very capable but out of favour at southampton. contract up in the summer. Zouma (Loan) - probably wouldn't be able to get him though Fabien Schar - 6 months left on his contract, But I suspect he would go to a top 6 club somewhere in europe (worth a try though) Left Wing - Bakary Sako - We know about him having been linked numerous times, could easily step up to the prem IMO and wouldnt be that expensive. Campbell (arsenal) Loan deal could work although we may struggle to get him as we wont be his only option. Scott sinclair - Quality at swansea as we know, Wont get into the city squad, Is he just taking a wage though happily (attitude problem?) Osvaldo - Sao Paulo - Rapid, still young and good on the ball. Striker - Arouna Kone - Big, Strong, Fast, and can score if he gets injury free (Loan) - Martinez quick to snap him up, obviously rated when fit. Defoe - We know about this guy, would have to battle with QPR Pato - (attitude problem?) If got onto the straight and narrow could easily fire us to safety, We know he knows where the goal is, Wages would be an issue though (reportedly 90k at SP) worth mentioning but I am almost laughing at myself as I type it... Some are probably a step too far for a club holding 19 teams above their head, but I couldn't really see an issue with the majority of them.
Number 6 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 After the boxing day game we'll have already played Man C, Man U, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton and Liverpool at home. Only Chelsea left which would pretty much be a write off. If we can sort our home form out and get in a couple of quality additions I think we'll be fine.
davieG Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Nigel Pearson has warned Leicester City supporters that the club may not be able to sign many new players during the upcoming January transfer window. It has been reported of late that the Foxes boss will have funds this winter to strengthen his squad at the King Power Stadium. However, despite having admitted that he has identified some targets, Pearson believes that it is likely to be difficult to tempt other clubs into selling their "best players". "I know that funds will be made available but, as I've said many times before, it is not an easy window to operate in because most clubs want to retain their best players rather than move them on," Sky Sports News quotes Pearson as saying. "You can have grand ideas of what you might want to bring in but the reality of being able to secure the players you want is never straight forward in any window but certainly not in January."
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Nigel Pearson has warned Leicester City supporters that the club may not be able to sign many new players during the upcoming January transfer window. It has been reported of late that the Foxes boss will have funds this winter to strengthen his squad at the King Power Stadium. However, despite having admitted that he has identified some targets, Pearson believes that it is likely to be difficult to tempt other clubs into selling their "best players". "I know that funds will be made available but, as I've said many times before, it is not an easy window to operate in because most clubs want to retain their best players rather than move them on," Sky Sports News quotes Pearson as saying. "You can have grand ideas of what you might want to bring in but the reality of being able to secure the players you want is never straight forward in any window but certainly not in January." what source is that mate? Think nigel is just upto his usual safe tactics to the media, "I'll warn them before hand in case we fail miserably"
davieG Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 what source is that mate? Think nigel is just upto his usual safe tactics to the media, "I'll warn them before hand in case we fail miserably" Seems to me he's just stating the obvious haven't you already said in the other topic being bottom we don't hold any cards. you can't have it both ways suggesting we don't have a chance on the one hand and then denigrating Pearson for saying pretty much the same thing.
eye666 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 what source is that mate? Think nigel is just upto his usual safe tactics to the media, "I'll warn them before hand in case we fail miserably" Or he's playing down our situation to other clubs. NP - "Yeah, we need 4 or 5 players in - we're desperate." Ron Manager - "Desperate you say? Add another zero then please Nige."
Dan Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Relegation hits some clubs so hard because they gambled and failed to stay up. It's a really tough call. It could be viewed as giving up if we were to play it safe, but this is the nature of this league. It's a bit of a lose/lose. I would take 20th with this squad over 18th with a squad that's spending an extra £150k a week on wages. A lot of clubs have gone down and failed to bounce back, but would we if we made the right decisions? The Championship isn't as tough as it's made out to be.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Seems to me he's just stating the obvious haven't you already said in the other topic being bottom we don't hold any cards. you can't have it both ways suggesting we don't have a chance on the one hand and then denigrating Pearson for saying pretty much the same thing. Kind of twisted what I've said.... We don't hold any cards when Roma comes in for a player too good for our team ... I didn't say we don't hold any cards with regard to recruiting loanees or out of favor players... Unless you can quote me otherwise...
davieG Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Kind of twisted what I've said.... We don't hold any cards when Roma comes in for a player too good for our team ... I didn't say we don't hold any cards with regard to recruiting loanees or out of favor players... Unless you can quote me otherwise... But we don't want out of favour players.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Relegation hits some clubs so hard because they gambled and failed to stay up. It's a really tough call. It could be viewed as giving up if we were to play it safe, but this is the nature of this league. It's a bit of a lose/lose. I would take 20th with this squad over 18th with a squad that's spending an extra £150k a week on wages. A lot of clubs have gone down and failed to bounce back, but would we if we made the right decisions? The Championship isn't as tough as it's made out to be. Certainly not a forgone conclusion that our fans seem to think.... Who says Nigel would still be here if we got relegated, who says we would not lose some of our best players like drinkwater, mahrez or vardy? Getting relegated is the unknowns, aswell as us spending money and staying up... But I'd rather us take a gamble than go down for the sake of being safe... We will just end up in the same situation as last summer, having an inferior team at this level and having to spend on better players...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 I think just some canny signings to get us over the line will do. We are not that far away and with some experience and confidence I think we can claw ourselves out. We still have good players who without some cash will not be going anywhere.
lcfcsnow Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Nigel Pearson has warned Leicester City supporters that the club may not be able to sign many new players during the upcoming January transfer window. It has been reported of late that the Foxes boss will have funds this winter to strengthen his squad at the King Power Stadium. However, despite having admitted that he has identified some targets, Pearson believes that it is likely to be difficult to tempt other clubs into selling their "best players". "I know that funds will be made available but, as I've said many times before, it is not an easy window to operate in because most clubs want to retain their best players rather than move them on," Sky Sports News quotes Pearson as saying. "You can have grand ideas of what you might want to bring in but the reality of being able to secure the players you want is never straight forward in any window but certainly not in January." Doesn't he say this every few months? No window is easy for Nigel Pearson to operate in, when his targets are players from championship clubs. May as well accept we're down as this lot nor more championship players will keep us up.
Bettsj2 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Relegation hits some clubs so hard because they gambled and failed to stay up. It's a really tough call. It could be viewed as giving up if we were to play it safe, but this is the nature of this league. It's a bit of a lose/lose. I would take 20th with this squad over 18th with a squad that's spending an extra £150k a week on wages. A lot of clubs have gone down and failed to bounce back, but would we if we made the right decisions? The Championship isn't as tough as it's made out to be. I'd take 17th with double the wage bill. If we dont do it now, when will we?
Dan Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 I'd take 17th with double the wage bill. If we dont do it now, when will we? No idea, and to be honest it seems like clubs like QPR get away with it anyway so what's to lose. The risk, especially when you're in 20th, is that it backfires completely. We've got to judge how likely we are to stay up and spend accordingly. I believe relegation wouldn't cripple us - but could do if we gambled and failed. It's all whether we're willing to take a gamble. I'm just scared. Could you genuinely imagine Leicester spending millions and pulling off survival? It just never seems to work that way here. Money curses us I swear There are no guarantees of anything so I can see why some would want to make sure we do it this season, and there's every chance we could go down and be stuck there for a few more years - but honestly, if we went down with Pearson, didn't lose any of our players (and the ones we lose would go for over the odds due to their contracts) and went into next season with a similar side, with parachute payments coming in, we should seriously be getting promoted.
les-tah Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 hardly breaking the bank when we spent next to nothing in the summer? Spend the money we should of spent? striker attacking midfielder and defender, all of quality.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 No idea, and to be honest it seems like clubs like QPR get away with it anyway so what's to lose. For me relegation is complete failure, we might have a realistic wage bill but would lose around 100m a year in revenues and sponsorships... Providing we got promoted instantly wouldn't be too bad but we know it's not that easy... Get some real quality in and save us nige ffs, if we can get some decent players in and make the rest up with loan players, I'm sure with a few decent signings higher profile loans would come to us..
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 No idea, and to be honest it seems like clubs like QPR get away with it anyway so what's to lose. For me relegation is complete failure, we might have a realistic wage bill but would lose around 100m a year in revenues and sponsorships... Providing we got promoted instantly wouldn't be too bad but we know it's not that easy... Get some real quality in and save us nige ffs, if we can get some decent players in and make the rest up with loan players, I'm sure with a few decent signings higher profile loans would come to us..
Dan Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 For me relegation is complete failure, we might have a realistic wage bill but would lose around 100m a year in revenues and sponsorships... Providing we got promoted instantly wouldn't be too bad but we know it's not that easy... Get some real quality in and save us nige ffs, if we can get some decent players in and make the rest up with loan players, I'm sure with a few decent signings higher profile loans would come to us.. We would not lose £100mil a year we aren't Man Utd. I think it only becomes crippling or worrying once you spend a silly amount of that revenue, and have we? I don't think we have. We've spent some money but not enough to cripple us if we go down, nowhere near, in-fact. If we went down this season with this current squad we would be in as good a position as anyone to go back up. The truth is though it's hard to accept relegation. It's a toughie.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 We would not lose £100mil a year we aren't Man Utd. I think it only becomes crippling or worrying once you spend a silly amount of that revenue, and have we? I don't think we have. We've spent some money but not enough to cripple us if we go down, nowhere near, in-fact. If we went down this season with this current squad we would be in as good a position as anyone to go back up. The truth is though it's hard to accept relegation. It's a toughie. Average revenue for a championship club is 30m Average revenue for a premiership club is 140m According to the documentary on QPR when they were promoted. Obviously parachute payments would count as an income so we wouldn't lose that much straight away but if we fail to get promotion for a few seasons we would be taking a lot less... Hence why only spending about 15m under Sven on players, and having around double the wage bill that we did under Pearson the first time round = 100m loss over 2 seasons... So to go from perm revenues to championship revenues would be stupid .. We would be in exactly the same situation as we were in the summer which is pointless. That's best case scenario if we rip the championship apart again...
hackneyfox Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 I'd happily spend another 150k a week and stay up and I'd like to think the owners and manger would as well. For me we probably need 4 players on at least 50k a week to even have a chance of staying up.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 I'd happily spend another 150k a week and stay up and I'd like to think the owners and manger would as well. For me we probably need 4 players on at least 50k a week to even have a chance of staying up. Ambition is ambition. The owners and manager are self quoted ambitious people... At the end of the day if the owners are aiming for us to be a top 5 club in the next 5-10 years they need to get used to spending these sorts of wages...
Babylon Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 I'd take 17th with double the wage bill. If we dont do it now, when will we? But would you be prepared to take 18th with double the wage bill and a massive financial problem.I find it flabbergasting that fans of a club already taught a hard financial lesson are now suggesting we go down the same route again. Overspending when in the premier is what buggered this club up for the last decade.
Babylon Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 I'd happily spend another 150k a week and stay up and I'd like to think the owners and manger would as well. For me we probably need 4 players on at least 50k a week to even have a chance of staying up.Who wouldn't!!!! But you are talking like spending a shot load of cash and going down isn't a possibility. You have to plan for both eventualities.
MC Prussian Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 For me relegation is complete failure, we might have a realistic wage bill but would lose around 100m a year in revenues and sponsorships... Providing we got promoted instantly wouldn't be too bad but we know it's not that easy... Get some real quality in and save us nige ffs, if we can get some decent players in and make the rest up with loan players, I'm sure with a few decent signings higher profile loans would come to us.. Relegation isn't a catastrophe, as long as you plan ahead and act within the boundaries of your financial limits.You assume that promotion to the Premier League is tough, but we might as well have it easier with the extra parachute cash in the pocket if we had to start a campaign for an immediate return to the top-flight. From what I gather, the owners' intent was always to get us promoted, but did the ever state they wanted survival at the first time of asking?
MC Prussian Posted 15 December 2014 Posted 15 December 2014 Ambition is ambition. The owners and manager are self quoted ambitious people... At the end of the day if the owners are aiming for us to be a top 5 club in the next 5-10 years they need to get used to spending these sorts of wages... Yeah, in the space of five to ten years such spending is reasonable. But who says we've got to spend it all or large parts of it so early or which fan has the patience to accept that, sit back and let it unfold over such a span of time? Most fans can't even wait for the next tansfer window to appear! One part of the fanbase will always want immediate success, so remain unfazed by the concept of long-term planning. In a fragile and volatile world such as football, calls for immediate success and/or overspending usually come with a hefty price tag.
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