Guest Col city fan Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Over the summer, Nigel, the club (and Terry Robinson..I dunno?) were praised for their financial prudency. It didn't really matter that we hadn't paid 11 million for Cresswell and paid him lots in wages because 'we were being financially sensible'. Instead, getting Albrighton and Upson on frees was 'good business'... There were many many posts along this vein. And many stating that QPR were fools to be spending..again. Indeed, some even said there was a 30k per week wage cap. I have no idea if that is true, or false. Does anyone? However, again many shouted..'good... It would be wrong to break it and to risk player morale'. Well, now we've moved on. It appears (from the Robinson thread') that many people have moved on. Now there are shouts of 'hurrah, that means Pearson can now spend what he wants.' Well people, we know that January can be a notoriously expensive time to get players in. If they weren't cheap in the summer, they certainly won't be now. So...what is it that people actually want? To spend big (most say we need quality and quality don't come cheap), or to get a few loanees in? (If we can?) and risk being financially worse off if we go down. Or to continue being financially prudent, hold tight and not break the bank? Which is it to be? Are there 'quality' players out there who wouldn't cost much? If so, who are they? Opinions please....
Mark_w Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Nigel's policy tends to be quite sensible financially, I can't see him risking the club's future, parachute payments should allow us to relax a little bit anyway. I just hope that we can sign Nigel's main target(s).
Buzzell Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 It's obvious that you need to spend a decent amount of money to buy the quality to compete at this level. If we have the money to spend then why not? Obviously buying big and going down would be a big issue with wages ect but our squad, at the moment, is not to PL standard. I'd like Nigel to try and get the right players for the club even if it means spending a bit of money or even 'splashing the cash'.
Soar Fox Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 For me it depends how cut adrift we are from 17th. If we're in the mix and only a point or two away from whoever is 17th then I'd push the boat out with signings and break the bank as you'd say. If we are 10 points away from 17th I'd say it's unlikeky we'd get out of it with whoever we realistically bought in. I'd then probably plan ahead towards next season with signings who would be able to help a promotion challenge. Either way it's going to be a very difficult window regardless, clubs will know we are desperate, players will be reluctant to sign for a team that looks like are going down.
RowlattsFox Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 At what point does it become breaking the bank? If we spend increases transfer fees but with sustainable wages then I'd be happy.
The Blue Moon Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Over the summer, Nigel, the club (and Terry Robinson..I dunno?) were praised for their financial prudency. It didn't really matter that we hadn't paid 11 million for Cresswell and paid him lots in wages because 'we were being financially sensible'. Instead, getting Albrighton and Upson on frees was 'good business'... There were many many posts along this vein. And many stating that QPR were fools to be spending..again. Indeed, some even said there was a 30k per week wage cap. I have no idea if that is true, or false. Does anyone? However, again many shouted..'good... It would be wrong to break it and to risk player morale'. Well, now we've moved on. It appears (from the Robinson thread') that many people have moved on. Now there are shouts of 'hurrah, that means Pearson can now spend what he wants.' Well people, we know that January can be a notoriously expensive time to get players in. If they weren't cheap in the summer, they certainly won't be now. So...what is it that people actually want? To spend big (most say we need quality and quality don't come cheap), or to get a few loanees in? (If we can?) and risk being financially worse off if we go down. Or to continue being financially prudent, hold tight and not break the bank? Which is it to be? Are there 'quality' players out there who wouldn't cost much? If so, who are they? Opinions please.... Whose Cresswell? Surely not Richard.
Raj Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Be financially prudent. Spend enough not to risk putting us in danger if the risk doesn't pay off. Either way its gonna be hard attract what we need
65RosesFox Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Whose Cresswell? Surely not Richard. Aaron cresswell By far best left back in Championship last season for Ipswich.
cc_star Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Signings appropriately renumerated with ridiculous bonuses for staying up or allowed to leave if we go down should a club want to sign then No risk
orangecity23 Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Judging from what we know about how our scouts work, you can assume we will be looking at people entering the last 6 months of their contracts. There could be some reasonable value to be had there, but it ends up into a game of brinkmanship. The selling club want a decent fee, but if they don't sell, they know they'll get nothing in the summer. It'll all come down to the players and the individual circumstances of their clubs. You can mitigate some of the risk though. Obviously, if you are going for a player with an expensive fee, then a younger player with good resale value is less of a risk than a 30+ player, especially if they want a long term deal which we couldn't afford if we went down. Likewise, if the fee is negligible, it can be worth targeting an older 'star', if the deal is short term and you can weasel out of a second year in the event of a relegation. Possibly, someone like Defoe could fit the profile of an older player, don't think he'd be too bothered if we only wanted a short deal, as he'd know he could pick up a deal somewhere else in the summer if he had too. With him though, you could end up getting played off against QPR for cash, and Harry would probably win out on that front given that he already knows Defoe anyway. TL,DR: I don't know if we can get bargains or not, and I'm reasonably in favour of spending cash, but not in a way where most of it is just written off as lost in 12 months time.
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Whose Cresswell? Surely not Richard. Are you being serious?
Trav Le Bleu Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 The only "good" players to buy are either those within 6 months of their contract and liable to leave on a free (and then only usually to a club that will better their career) or players tempted to a higher league. Both are extremely rare and I think that Nigel knows this as well as anyone. I think he'll be sensible and we won't be buying just for the sake of it, but that might still mean going over the odds. I can see us breaking our transfer record again.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Just go ****ing mental, we've been patient enough.
Buzzell Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Whose Cresswell? Surely not Richard. Yeah Richard Creswell mate
Spicer Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 We need to spend or we won't stay up on current evidence. As for breaking the bank, clubs and agents know we are desperate. So can charge more. I think we simply don't have much of a choice if we want to stay in the premiership.
Stadt Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 It's obvious that you need to spend a decent amount of money to buy the quality to compete at this level. If we have the money to spend then why not? Obviously buying big and going down would be a big issue with wages ect but our squad, at the moment, is not to PL standard. I'd like Nigel to try and get the right players for the club even if it means spending a bit of money or even 'splashing the cash'. Rights Reserved Wookie MMXIV ©
davieG Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Are we likely to break the bank surely there's enough scope within PLs FFP rules. Assuming the following is still correct. Not sure what happens if relegation hits but i would assume there would be contract clauses to cover that. The 20 chairmen agreed two significant controls — limiting the total amount of TV money they can spend on players’ wages to £60million by 2016, and longer-term measures that will restrict losses to £105m over a rolling three-year cycle. The wage restraints — £52m next season, £56m the following year and £60m in 2015-16 — mean a club could still offer Neymar £250,000 a week, for instance, provided they make savings elsewhere. And the rules involve only the clubs’ shares of the £5.5billion TV rights deals, so the cap could be sidestepped if a team could show the extra money came from increased commercial or matchday revenue. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2274957/Financial-Fair-Play-Premier-League-agree-financial-cap-clubs-face-points-deduction.html#ixzz3LtjAiMpA Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
yorkie1999 Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 The only players that are out there and are cheep are players from the lower leagues who want to make a name for themselves, Callum Wilson springs to mind, or David mcoldrick. These are the sort of players who would bust a gut to prove themselves IMO.
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 The only players that are out there and are cheep are players from the lower leagues who want to make a name for themselves, Callum Wilson springs to mind, or David mcoldrick. These are the sort of players who would bust a gut to prove themselves IMO. Neither would be cheap buddy. Ipswich are going for promotion for example.
ithuriel Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 We either buy quality and pay the cash or not bother at all and accept relegation, no point piddling around looking for cheap bargains.
The Blue Moon Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Aaron cresswell By far best left back in Championship last season for Ipswich. Ah right, name rings a bell but didn't know he was any good or rated at 11 million! Surely we can get a decent Prem standard left back for half of that. Bertrand was available on loan for whoever struck first. The fact we stuck with Kasper as first choice keeper has cost us big time. I don't know whose decision that was.
foxinsocks Posted 14 December 2014 Posted 14 December 2014 Nigel like to sign "manageable player" - grafter and no big egos. This may not be a problem for getting the right centre back or defensive midfielder - but strikers are like race horses (they need a goat in their stable to keep them calm)
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