What will it take?

[The Quick Brown Fox]

Reasons I'm backing him.

I love the fact he only tolerates players who will give their all for the club. Whenever watching his teams I always feel like we get maximum effort from them.

He's turned around bad situations before, he can do it again, I thought we had enough, I was wrong, he deserves a chance to rectify what has gone wrong.

I like the attitude of the side, everything from trying to play good football to the fact we don't and won't hound officials. Our players (Knockaert apart on a couple of occasions) don't cheat.

I know the club is on a sound financial footing if he here and he wouldn't happily risk the football clubs existence for his own personal CV like Sven would and Redknapp has.

If we do go down you know we'll be right up there next season still. That's his hallmark. Never out of the top 6 with a full season in charge.

If we go down with him we'll be back fairly quickly, if we change manager we simply have to stay up as we'd be going on the same transition as Fulham, Wigan etc if we went down. new players, new systems and probably more managers as ones fail again and again to meet realistic expectation until we find another gem and mix it with stability.

Add to that no other manager avaliable seems as good. Pulis style would require virtually a new squad and he's proven he'll walk out at any point if things don't go his way. Not really someone I want.

This.

I'm also with the people saying Il stop backing Pearson when the players do.

[Fox Ulike]

OK I've been publicly outed as a Pearson out person but to be honest I'm really not that bothered because unlike the beliefs of many on Foxestalk my opinion is not knee jerk nor am I a plastic fan by any stretch. Admittedly I am not a regular attender at the KP or away games but am heavily affected by what happens to my club on matchdays (just ask my wife)

This thread isn't about slating Pearson nor defending him. Its just I'm confused and want to know at what point do the pro Pearson supporters lose faith?

In my opinion the right time may well have passed. I would have pulled the trigger a few weeks ago (perhaps we may have had a couple more points by now)

I know that in the past some fans have stated chopping and changing managers got us nowhere in the past but that was more down to Ill choices by the chairman at the time.

What is it going to take then guys? Let me know I'm desperate to understand your reasons for not losing faith and backing Nige

 

 

OK so you would have 'pulled the trigger' a couple of weeks ago? Then what would you have done?

 

How do you know that the Chairman wouldn't make another bad choice?

 

The problem with the "Pearson out" argument is that it doesn't go any further than that. You seem to think that once Pearson is sacked, all our problems are gone with him and we will just float to mid-table safety. But it's all in your head. You need to be able to show some degree of foresight and engagement with reality. How, exactly, would sacking the manager benefit the club?

 

Very few people are "pro Pearson" right now. I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. I support LCFC and see him as an inspirational leader who has the unconditional support of the players. BUT, his tactics have been woeful, and his substitutions can be bizarre. He has asked too many players to play out of their comfort zones, and this has shot much of the early season confidence.

So what does that make me?

 

If anybody could ever present an intelligent argument as to how sacking Pearson would benefit the club, I would certainly listen. But no-one ever does...

 

So, rather than asking what it would take for fans to lose faith with the manager, why don't you explain how and why sacking him would actually increase our chances of staying up this season?

[phildw]

Pearson In.

I won't lose faith in Pearson as the right manager for Leicester, till the players lose the faith in him and themselves.

It's far too easy letting go of a manager if you're the Leicester of 2006, but one which has improved the 1st team, and youth squad since coming in for the second time? AND has the full backing of HIS players, brought in by him, still improving because of him, and value which has quadrupled in most cases because of his scouting department. Everything about Pearson's system has worked well for this club, and sure, the transition from Champ to Prem has been difficult, it was always going to be difficult, you're mental if you expected us to waltz in to the top half of the table.

I also don't think Pearson has done much wrong in terms of correcting issues, and attempting to gain points every week. It would be ignorant to look back and say we've had 'bad luck', but given the off different swing, games could have gone differently, and points could have been collected and this talk wouldn't be happening. Fans just see the LLLLLLs and presume we're playing shit, but that's not the case at all. We're not getting battered or destroyed by our competition, and the score sheet isn't reflecting that either.

Man City - L - Was always going to be hard, only conceded once and restricted Man C with our formation.

Villa - L - Unfortunate red card, played well and the 3rd goal could have gone either way at the time Villa scored.

Liverpool - L - Again, played very well competitively, missed an open goal, stupid red card for Morgan, played better with 10 men!

QPR - L - Could have gone either way, all of QPRs goals were lucked up scrappy goals.

Sunderland - D - Competitive game which we should have won as the better side on the day.

Southampton - L - Held our own well all game, two late goals as we switched off.

West Brom - L - Unfortunate own goal.

Swansea - L - The only team in our last 10 where we have been truly out of the game without a chance of picking something up.

Newcastle - L - We were the better team before Newcastle's counter-attack goal which killed the game off, on a different day it would have been us with the goal.

Burnley - D - Silly last minute free-kick giving us 1 instead of 3 points.

There's a big big difference losing games by a very thin line, and getting beat 3 - 0 / 4 - 1 every week, We're not completely out of it in terms of our quality as a competitive Premier League side just yet, the minute the players heads drop, we're out of the Prem.

I just think it's wrong to sack a manager that has built this team from scraps, because we're losing games in a division which we haven't been in for 10 years, if anyone can turn it around it's Pearson and his team.

The good old 'could have / should have' defence.

[foxes_rule1978]

We moved in the right direction, sacking Robinson just before the Jan window... Pearson probably didn't get the players he wanted because Robinson was too cautious and failed with negotiating deals. So hopefully we will bring in the two to three quality players we need to ensure we have enough to survive. Pearson has the backing of the players, owners and fans... For me I think he is the best man to keep us in the PL

[Dan LCFC]

OK so you would have 'pulled the trigger' a couple of weeks ago? Then what would you have done?

 

How do you know that the Chairman wouldn't make another bad choice?

 

The problem with the "Pearson out" argument is that it doesn't go any further than that. You seem to think that once Pearson is sacked, all our problems are gone with him and we will just float to mid-table safety. But it's all in your head. You need to be able to show some degree of foresight and engagement with reality. How, exactly, would sacking the manager benefit the club?

 

Very few people are "pro Pearson" right now. I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. I support LCFC and see him as an inspirational leader who has the unconditional support of the players. BUT, his tactics have been woeful, and his substitutions can be bizarre. He has asked too many players to play out of their comfort zones, and this has shot much of the early season confidence.

 

 

So what does that make me?

 

If anybody could ever present an intelligent argument as to how sacking Pearson would benefit the club, I would certainly listen. But no-one ever does...

 

So, rather than asking what it would take for fans to lose faith with the manager, why don't you explain how and why sacking him would actually increase our chances of staying up this season?

 

Here, here. You're on fire lately.

[Fox Ulike]

Here, here. You're on fire lately.

 

Giving it 110%

[Mark_w]

Our players (Knockaert apart on a couple of occasions) don't cheat.

 

Riyad and Vardy cheat.

[Stadt]

Riyad and Vardy cheat.

Butwedon'tcheatenoughwasylnastypulistoonicecattermolenaive

[Leicester_Numan]

This for me too. Long term gain is what I hope he will achieve and I'm willing to sacrifice short term losses.

Same here

[chapero82]

We are not playing badly, and you can see the players still want to play for him the problem is lack of quality which hopefully NP will sort out in January

[st albans fox]

He has problems with certain characters but seems that the majority are with him so I can live with that. I am worried about his tactical nouse. if he cannot sort that out then he needs to go. Without this, you cannot survive too long in the PL. I suspect he needs to find a new no 2 who has it. (And bloody fast)

[Danizen]

We are not playing badly, and you can see the players still want to play for him the problem is lack of quality which hopefully NP will sort out in January

I disagree. We're not playing well and we keep making costly mistakes game after game and making it too easy for the opposition so we are playing badly. The only game we were unlucky in was the Sunderland game every other time we've just handed the game to the opposition.

[DB11]

I support Pearson.

 

Even if we go down, we are going in the right direction long term.

 

Pearson has showed us what he can do, and returning after he went to Hull showed a lot of faith, and I'm returning that faith in Pearson.

[Dan LCFC]

I don't think we're playing particularly well either. We aren't getting hammered but we're hardly outplaying teams at all. Our passing has largely been diabolical and it's becoming pretty clear that our style of last year hasn't really translated to this division. That Man Utd game has gone totally against us in my opinion. Everyone knew what we were about and we've done very little to negate that up until Saturday.

 

I think if we play like we did against Man City for the remainder of the season we've got a chance of staying up. We didn't create a lot, but people forget the standard of our opposition that day. There's no shame in losing to Man City at the minute. They're flying.

[Jace]

Imagine if we were knocked out of the cup at home to Shrewsbury now, barely any of us of cared at the beginning of the season but it if such a result happened after our current form there would be hell up

[Corky]

Imagine if we were knocked out of the cup at home to Shrewsbury now, barely any of us of cared at the beginning of the season but it if such a result happened after our current form there would be hell up

 

We'll beat Colchester City and everything will be fine 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

We do have a serious lack of identity this season. Last season our football was simple but effective from the off and then quality when we were building on leads. It was hard to really explain our style last year - flexible? We were effective in all types of scenarios and that became obvious pretty early on when we kept winning regardless of how the game went.

This year it's becoming hoofball - as per every single time we get a big forward and it really does agitate me. Hoofball is gone. The flick on is seldom effective in this league. I don't even believe we're particularly good at it either. Our inability to resist going long every time we sign a big forward is so annoying.

Against Man City though I thought it was a lot better. More control in midfield, a lot more passing which is natural when you've got Cambiasso, King & Drinkwater in there who are all good passers of the ball, just a lack of cutting edge. I think 4-3-3 is the way forward for us if we sign players suitable for it - Mahrez can be one of the three, Ulloa can if we get him the service. I'd like us to bring in someone like that Montero at Swansea. A bit of a gem, wide left sided forward who can create and score. We'd be a lot better for it.

4-4-2 worked last season but I've given up on it this season personally.

THIS