Buce Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 Is anyone watching this bloke on Sky News now from the charity CAGE? It's enough to make me want to cry. If Jihadi John is Mohammed Enwazi, it's the security services fault for following him and making his life a misery even when they had no cause to. (I'd say given what's he done they were probably right in hindsight to follow him) He also says if we are going to stop people like him, we have to change British society so people like him don't feel outcast. I just know you'll love their website, Matt: http://www.cageuk.org/
Head Honcho Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 Is anyone watching this bloke on Sky News now from the charity CAGE? It's enough to make me want to cry. If Jihadi John is Mohammed Enwazi, it's the security services fault for following him and making his life a misery even when they had no cause to. (I'd say given what's he done they were probably right in hindsight to follow him) He also says if we are going to stop people like him, we have to change British society so people like him don't feel outcast. Just heard that myself you couldn't make it up. It's always someone else's fault with em aint it. Pythonesque radio of the finest quality.
Guest MattP Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 I just know you'll love their website, Matt: http://www.cageuk.org/ They've even got Mo 'wrong place at the wrong time' Begg on the payroll. I had a mate like Mo Begg, kept being accused of being in the EDL - was found in the same City as the EDL were marching 37 times on the trot. Unluckiest bloke I know.
Head Honcho Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 They've even got Mo 'wrong place at the wrong time' Begg on the payroll. I had a mate like Mo Begg, kept being accused of being in the EDL - was found in the same City as the EDL were marching 37 times on the trot. Unluckiest bloke I know. That's unfair. It's happened to me loads of times. I go on holiday get off the plane and lo and behold there's a terrorist training camp across the road from the hotel.
Guest MattP Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 The bloke is on Channel 4 now saying what a kind, gentle and humble guy Jihadi John was when he knew, also says he can't condemn his acts as he's been driven to this by the British security forces. And these are the guys we're working with to try and combat this stuff?
Buce Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 This makes me want to cry with rage: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31647484
Guest MattP Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 This makes me want to cry with rage: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31647484 Just awful, crimes against the history of humanity now. If we do rescue these areas back from them a lot is going to have been lost.
ADK Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 At least the nasty British didn't take them and preserve them in museums.
sphericalfox Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 This makes me want to cry with rage: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31647484 This really isn't a modern act of vandalism, it's been done for centuries, but given the age of some of the artefacts in Iraq, it would be a shame that they were destroyed forever. Thankfully the British robbed all the good stuff for their own museums, so it's all good.
Voll Blau Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 "The reported destruction of the statues follows recent reports that IS burnt down Mosul Library, which housed over 8,000 ancient manuscripts." For fvck's sake. These cvnts genuinely have Barry from Four Lions as their role model, but without the comic relief. And to think how close Parliament was from actually helping them two years ago...
Guest MattP Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 I remember getting massacred on here for saying we shouldn't. (Well actually I got massacred for saying we should back Bashir against them but meh ( Actually a huge moment in political history looking back, had we actually done it Cameron might have even had to go. Might have pushed the Scottish over the edge for a yes as well.
ADK Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 Milliband ought to make more of it really. We arguably caused the USA and France to back down too, at the time people were worried we'd lose credibility as a military power, but it's turned out to be the correct decision. Of course Libya has already been royally ****ed and we don't seem to hear much criticism of our involvement. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14934352 Wonder if he feels so smug now.
Guest MattP Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 I don't think Ed can make too much of it as it was pretty obvious he was only against it as public opinion was. He certainly didn't refer to the rebel groups extremism at any point as a reason not to back it. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and Miliband couldn't organise a bumrape in a barracks.
Alf Bentley Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 The bloke is on Channel 4 now saying what a kind, gentle and humble guy Jihadi John was when he knew, also says he can't condemn his acts as he's been driven to this by the British security forces. And these are the guys we're working with to try and combat this stuff? I saw the CAGE apologist on C4. What a monumental lack of any sense of proportion! Fair enough, Emwazi might have seemed like a nice bloke when he met him but (a) by his own admittance, he only met him 7 or 8 times in a professional context; and, er, (b) Emwazi's just been revealed to have been videoed butchering several innocent and worthwhile members of humanity. The latter seems a more salient fact than that he might have seemed a lovely chap a few years back! The CAGE bloke even had to be pressed to condemn the executions - I mean, it's fair enough to slate Bush & Blair for their warmongering actions, but Emwazi does need to be on your list, too, mate! Maybe MI5 did mistreat him. Certainly wouldn't be the first time. So, if Emwazi had been identified throwing a brick through their window or beating up an MI5 officer, he might have had some credibility.....but it's a bit of an extreme reaction to fly off to a foreign war zone, join the most bloodthirsty terrorist group in existence and volunteer for duty beheading innocent civilians! I'm assuming the bloke has been correctly identified, of course, but surely the security services wouldn't allow such an identification unless they were pretty damn sure they'd got it right? On a lighter note, at least there's news that alternative career opportunities are available for Jihadi John / Emwazi if there's ever an unlikely slump in the jihadist execution industry.... http://time.com/3723667/human-head-transplant/ First Human Head Transplant Could Happen Within Two Years Sergio Canavero, a doctor in Italy, has drawn up the plans for a human head transplant A surgeon says the first human head transplant could take place within the next two years. Sergio Canavero, a doctor in Turin, Italy, has drawn up the plans for the radical surgery and hopes to begin assembling a team this June,the Guardian reports.
ADK Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 I don't think Ed can make too much of it as it was pretty obvious he was only against it as public opinion was. He certainly didn't refer to the rebel groups extremism at any point as a reason not to back it. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and Miliband couldn't organise a bumrape in a barracks. He would do if he was good at his job. You might make that argument and possibly be correct but it would be rather negative for Cameron to accuse Milliband of only making the correct decision because the public were also correct. Like him or not, it's one positive thing he's done in opposition.
Guest MattP Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 I saw the CAGE apologist on C4. What a monumental lack of any sense of proportion! Fair enough, Emwazi might have seemed like a nice bloke when he met him but (a) by his own admittance, he only met him 7 or 8 times in a professional context; and, er, (b) Emwazi's just been revealed to have been videoed butchering several innocent and worthwhile members of humanity. The latter seems a more salient fact than that he might have seemed a lovely chap a few years back! The CAGE bloke even had to be pressed to condemn the executions - I mean, it's fair enough to slate Bush & Blair for their warmongering actions, but Emwazi does need to be on your list, too, mate! Did he actually condemn it after being pushed? The other guy has just been on Sky News and refused to condemn it. Said I'm not answering and stormed off. We've now got the original bloke all over the Mail having been filmed outside the US embassy 2 years back calling on fellow Muslims to rise up and join the jihad. I feel like I'm on the Truman show and everyone's in this joke apart from me. I wonder how much public funding these lot have received as well.
Guest MattP Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jihadi-john-cage-representative-storms-off-sky-news-interview-after-accusing-kay-burley-of-islamaphobia-10073785.html The interview of Cage guy number 2 is on there, watch how Kay Burley responds to an accusation of being Islamaphobic Bet he hated being spoken to like that by a woman.
Voll Blau Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 Just been referred to as an "executioner" on Newsnight. Poor from them, he's a cold-blooded murderer. End of.
Dr The Singh Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 I'm going back to America, the news over there is so much black and white, Fox News would have brought up some white bloke that had no comprehension of anything but be able to slate Isis and make stuff up about John, then just turn to ABC or CNN for the some white bloke do the opposite. balance is key
johnny the fox Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 Come on lads lets not lose our heads here...
lgfualol Posted 26 February 2015 Posted 26 February 2015 "The reported destruction of the statues follows recent reports that IS burnt down Mosul Library, which housed over 8,000 ancient manuscripts." For fvck's sake. These cvnts genuinely have Barry from Four Lions as their role model, but without the comic relief. And to think how close Parliament was from actually helping them two years ago... Education is these guys' biggest enemy.
Benguin Posted 27 February 2015 Posted 27 February 2015 Amazing that people still to this day believe in an Omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolant God. It's time to eradicate religion, people say it's nice that someone has faith but faith and religion are different. Believing in a Devine power is great but believing in a Devine power who approves of these sick Bastards is absurd. Religion devalues this life and is the route cause for so much that is wrong in the world. If there is a God out there than either he/she is not even close tithe Diety's depicted in Religions or God is an Evil Fvcker and I'd sooner burn in Hell than follow someone who allows this shit to happen.
Alf Bentley Posted 27 February 2015 Posted 27 February 2015 Amazing that people still to this day believe in an Omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolant God. If he exists, he's certainly created an omnishambles.
Buce Posted 27 February 2015 Posted 27 February 2015 If he exists, he's certainly created an omnishambles. Doesn't Kate Moss go out with their guitarist..?
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