you lot amaze me

[bovril]

Not in the short term no

 

Well I don't really understand that reasoning. Pearson is not battling against some unseen Premiership forces that are impossible to overcome. He's a man doing a job. Presumably if we got someone better in we'd have a better chance of picking up points over the next 3 games.

[LanguedocFox]

Here we are talking about a Football club I love, and its turned into a Pearson love-in.

This is a results business totally reliant on how many points you can accumulate over a Season we at the moment are DIRE with very little sign of finding a way out of the mess we are in under this Manager, never mind what he did 1 or 2 years ago its irrelevant, there for the memories, any manager is only as good as his last game, so lets get a little bit of reality here, we are bottom of the Premier League for Christ sake not sitting pretty, wake up and smell the coffee.

me I'M OLD TIME been a fan for donkeys years and I do not like what I am seeing this Season and I don't care who would be in the seat, its LEICESTER CITY not Nigel Pearson or any other just the Club.

 

You are wrong from your second paragraph. If this (I assume you mean being a fan - if you don't, you should pipe down) is a results business, most of us would support Man U, or Chelski, or Arsenal. We are Leicester City cans: most years, we don't win a lot of matches - seasons like last season are as rare as rocking-horse sh!t. Every season, we lose some games down to dodgy refereeing decisions. We win some because the ref misses a handball. We lose some because we were whacked by a better team, We win some by having a day when every shot goes in. It's called being a City fan: you don't like it, tough. Remember, it's not obligatory to support your team: you can fvck off any time you want.

[dogadug]

he's won as many games in 5 weeks as we have all season

 

He's laughing at you because you think that 2m would get Pardew away from Palace not that Pardew isn't a good choice...

[stingray]

Since 1960 we have had very few managers who have achieved as much as Pearson has, and even fewer who have brought as many young and exciting players into the club. If you seriously won't support a manager who is doing dreadfully, where were you between 2000 and 2008? Supporting Arsenal?

 

 

except that hasn't achieved a thing. he got us promoted (and then relegated). Given his budget last year that was par for the course and no more. He's worse than Gillies, O Farrell,

Bloomfield, Wallace, Milne, o'Neill, Adams and Little.

[Gary Eatfood]

He's laughing at you because you think that 2m would get Pardew away from Palace not that Pardew isn't a good choice...

 

Think he was referring to the reported £2m it cost Palace to obtain Pardew from Newcastle.

[Collibosher70]

Where I was getting the presumption over age is from Bentley's Roof where the majority of members are older, and there's currently a thread running where people are actually saying they'd take on 8-0 defeat tomorrow if it means Pearson is sacked!!

Most people on bentleys are not in agreement, me included and I'm not a Pearson fan

[Webbo]

except that hasn't achieved a thing. he got us promoted (and then relegated). Given his budget last year that was par for the course and no more. He's worse than Gillies, O Farrell,

Bloomfield, Wallace, Milne, o'Neill, Adams and Little.

He's about on a par with Little at the minute.

[Tom's Pasta]

Well I don't really understand that reasoning. Pearson is not battling against some unseen Premiership forces that are impossible to overcome. He's a man doing a job. Presumably if we got someone better in we'd have a better chance of picking up points over the next 3 games.

A man coming into a squad he has never worked with before on the evening before a game would all of a sudden find a magic formula with these players to pick up more points, I don't think it really works like that.

[Kitchandro]

The arguing on here is ridiculous. Both sides have some valid points but at the same time both are come out with some absolute b0llocks.

1) For those who want Pearson out now, why? It was understandable in December/January, but with no respectable managers available and the transfer window closed what is the point? We might as well stick with Pearson.

2) For those saying he should stay and are arguing that we haven't played bad football, are you having a laugh? The system worked superb for the first five games but too much changing meant we went on a godawful run, some games we didn't look like having a sniff. The new year has brought an upturn but league form has dropped again and the game against Palace was crucial. Survival is a very big ask now.

My personal opinion is to stick with Pearson to the close of the season at least. Survival is not impossible and we should get behind the boys more than we ever have this season. If we give it 150% and act as if there's still hope than it might correspond to the players. If not for Pearson, do it for the lads and the Football Club. More than ever it's time to get behind them and maybe, just maybe we can pull it off.

COYF!!!

 

1) Because there is no point sticking with a man that is almost certainly taking us down, when we could just move on and appoint someone who might not take us down. There was an argument in December that once we got a win, we would see an upturn in confidence and Nigel would have learnt from his mistakes during that run, as well as being able to bring in the players we needed to stay up. It is now obvious that he hasn't learnt. Our tactics and team selection have continued to be poor and he did not bring in the players we needed (ie left back).

 

The situation has changed, we've given him time and the transfer window and he's failed in both areas, we're not playing well enough and we haven't brought the quality in.

 

It was natural to think Palace at home was last chance saloon considering the matches we've got coming up and how we'd bridged the gap in January. People had hope we might turn it around but we've regressed again - we've had our little run but it's become obvious that that's all it was.

 

And, in a simplified way, the team selection on Saturday summed up why he should go in a way where he's probably topped all of his poor selections from the rest of the season. He buys a £10m striker to drag us out of the mire and then plays Nugent instead who's scored 2 goals. He also leaves Albrighton on the bench again, when surely it was impossible to do so considering he'd left him out after a MOTM performance once and then came off the bench to create a goal the previous week and look by far our most dangerous player on the day. Any manager would look a fool after those decisions.

 

Saturday was the final straw for me, it all boiled up and all of Pearson's errors chemically reacted together in an explosion of failure, just when we needed a result most of all. A  win would have closed the gap significantly but a 3rd appalling (league) performance in a row, and this time at home to a relegation rival, puts us adrift again.

 

That's why it made sense. I, and possibly someone at the club, thought he might turrn it around at one point but by the time Saturday night came he'd changed his mind. It makes perfect sense to me.

[The Doctor]

bulls..t we are bottom Nevermind the form table that don.t keep you up and turning it around are you mad !

I don't think you understood a word he said. Since the turn of the year when that 13 game run ended, we've been midtable in terms of form, the last 7 games have shown a marked improvement on what came before them - there's no arguing that.

[LanguedocFox]

except that hasn't achieved a thing. he got us promoted (and then relegated). Given his budget last year that was par for the course and no more. He's worse than Gillies, O Farrell,

Bloomfield, Wallace, Milne, o'Neill, Adams and Little.

 

No he's not.

 

And if you think that Pearson is worse than O'Farrell (relegated, despite spending a UK-record fee on Allan Clarke) or Adams (who did get us relegated), you must have been watching a different team. Pearson, whatever you think of him, has a higher win percentage - in his first term - than any other City manager. And in his second term, he has a higher win percentage than any other City manager except himself in his first term. Apart from that, he hasn't achieved a thing.

[LanguedocFox]

I'm 49 and it's time for him to move on. For the good of the club. He's a very limited manager and an oddball personality who has proved out of his depth at this level, and luckily benefited from superb backing from the board (not many other managers have that fortune). His budget was amongst the highest in the Championship last year. His team is poor: our defence is terrible (full backs get ripped apart most weeks), midfield is lacking and strike force don't score (enough). 

 

Where the **** do you get that from? Look at the facts: Florist and QPR both had higher spends than we did. And how does a "very limited manager" get to two play-off semis and two promotions in four full seasons. By all means be prejudiced: but back your prejudice with facts - it's not difficult, even at your age.

[dogadug]

Also I'd say it's much harder to come up and compete now with the amounts of money involved compared to say 10+ years ago

[Guest Col city fan]

I don't think you understood a word he said. Since the turn of the year when that 13 game run ended, we've been midtable in terms of form, the last 7 games have shown a marked improvement on what came before them - there's no arguing that.

A post like this sums up all the frustration really.

Doc..We have secured 2 wins in 17 games.

That's 2 in 17...

Does that not matter to you mate? I think we have looked a bit better actually (making chances) but look at the stats.

[themotivator]

how are you not managing a premier league club mate?

[bovril]

Also I'd say it's much harder to come up and compete now with the amounts of money involved compared to say 10+ years ago

 

It would be interesting if someone could do a comparison of how newly promoted teams have fared over the last 10-15 years.

Fleckney where are you?

[dogadug]

There's probably better examples but didn't Blackburn finish pretty high - 4th? in their first season in the Premier League and win it in their second season in 94/95

[ScouseFox]

bovril pls can you come back to gen chat and talk about food and beer and strange places in europe so i can agree with and +1 your posts again like back in the good old days

[Webbo]

A man coming into a squad he has never worked with before on the evening before a game would all of a sudden find a magic formula with these players to pick up more points, I don't think it really works like that.

Pardew?

[Tom's Pasta]

Pardew?

This is my point, Pardew had January to bring in a few players and get the team he wanted. If a manager comes here now he's stuck with the current squad. I think there was a window where we could have brought in a new manager but I think it has passed now.

[artursteppe]

I've been supporting this great club since 1967, about the same time as Lenny Glover started. It used to be great, cup runs, promotion and relegation, beating Liverpool often, and Man Utd and Chelsea, usually getting thraped by Arsenal, winning the 'League Cup' a couple of times, breaking the transfer fee record ( Alan Clarke ), turning down record breaking offers ( Keith Weller, from Brian Clough at Forest ). Yes I am an older supporter, and much of this has to do with age. The younger supporters do not know what it has been like to be really excited by Leicester playing the top teams, well I do. I know what it is like and I am fed up with Pearson.

 

Pearson is the luckiest manager in England. Two years ago when we were 'nailed on' for automatic promotion we only won three of our last seventeen matches in the main season ( not play-offs ).

 

Yes, he then got us promoted, but as a club with wealthy owners, and currently the 11th best gates in the Prem, we should expect that. We should expect to be in the top eleven!

 

This season, since Man Utd, what is it 9 points from the last possible 57 or something. This must surely be a record. Has any manager been this 'unsuccessful' in a run of twenty odd matches and still kept his job.

 

Whoops, I am forgetting all the younger fans will tell you, 'he needs time to learn what he is doing', he got us promoted twice, he 'deserves'????? to keep his job, it's all that BBC chap's fault, Stringer or somebody, oh no, it's that other BBC chap's fault, Lineker.

 

Two wins at home this season and almost nothing against the crap teams at the bottom, home or away. Villa, WBA, Palace, Burnley, QPR, Sunderland, five points in eight matches. Of course Pearson should keep his job, we got three points against Man Utd ( two matches ) and three points from Chelsea, Man City, Everton, Liverpool ( two matches ) and Arsenal.

 

Blimey, six points in eight matches against the top teams, so Pearson must be good.

 

Oh Really ???????

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Quite admire that people genuinely think using the fact that they've been going down for years makes their opinion more valid than anyone under 50 ("I've been going down for ages / I've been a season ticket holder since the womb / I've been a fan for donkeys).

 

My dad is 62, City fan / ST holder all his life; and quite frankly thinks the lot of you Pearson out bunch are cretins. Using your logic, he's right.

[Guest]

I've been supporting this great club since 1967, about the same time as Lenny Glover started. It used to be great, cup runs, promotion and relegation, beating Liverpool often, and Man Utd and Chelsea, usually getting thraped by Arsenal, winning the 'League Cup' a couple of times, breaking the transfer fee record ( Alan Clarke ), turning down record breaking offers ( Keith Weller, from Brian Clough at Forest ). Yes I am an older supporter, and much of this has to do with age. The younger supporters do not know what it has been like to be really excited by Leicester playing the top teams, well I do. I know what it is like and I am fed up with Pearson.

Pearson is the luckiest manager in England. Two years ago when we were 'nailed on' for automatic promotion we only won three of our last seventeen matches in the main season ( not play-offs ).

Yes, he then got us promoted, but as a club with wealthy owners, and currently the 11th best gates in the Prem, we should expect that. We should expect to be in the top eleven!

This season, since Man Utd, what is it 9 points from the last possible 57 or something. This must surely be a record. Has any manager been this 'unsuccessful' in a run of twenty odd matches and still kept his job.

Whoops, I am forgetting all the younger fans will tell you, 'he needs time to learn what he is doing', he got us promoted twice, he 'deserves'????? to keep his job, it's all that BBC chap's fault, Stringer or somebody, oh no, it's that other BBC chap's fault, Lineker.

Two wins at home this season and almost nothing against the crap teams at the bottom, home or away. Villa, WBA, Palace, Burnley, QPR, Sunderland, five points in eight matches. Of course Pearson should keep his job, we got three points against Man Utd ( two matches ) and three points from Chelsea, Man City, Everton, Liverpool ( two matches ) and Arsenal.

Blimey, six points in eight matches against the top teams, so Pearson must be good.

Oh Really ???????

The younger supporters don't know what it's like to be excited watching Leicester? Absolute nonsense. City is as much theirs as it is yours.

Seems like the older ones can't get a grip on the fact that the game has changed since the mid 60s. At least the younger generations seem to have a little patience.

Obviously this is almost as wild a generalisation as yours

[Babylon]

People need to take a step back from the situation and accept we look very likely to go down under him. That being the case, there's not a good reason to stick with him apart from a bias towards him, as our aim is to compete and stay in the top flight.

At what point did it become a sackable offence when a newly promoted club came up and struggled? I think people are so used to seeing everyone else chuck the baby out with the bath water season after season that they expect that's what everyone should do.

 

This season was always going to be a battle, with a very real chance of relegation. Anyone who thought otherwise just wasn't frankly being realistic. Pearson has made mistakes, nobody on here would say otherwise, but there isn't a manager out there who won't. He's been a good manager for us over the years, the best in a decade +. We've been told season after season that he wasn't good enough from the first day he arrived, and every time people have ended up being proved wrong.

 

Yeah we've been awful in some games. Point to me a team in the bottom half that hasn't. We're so so close to actually getting it right. You say we were very very poor on Saturday, that's ridiculous. Most of our play was good enough all over the pitch, except for one thing the finishing. That's been the same story in several games like spurs at home. Dominating the game and come away with nothing.

 

If we were being absolutely diabolical and not even in with a chance in most games then I'd be inclined to agree that he and the squad just aren't good enough. But I don't feel that's the case. We're in the realms of a single decision deciding out whole season it's still so close. We've gained points on all our rivals over the Christmas period and they all have hard games to come. Burnleys run of games until they play us is awful.

 

I think there is a very real chance we can survive with Pearson this season. Even if we didn't, I can't see many brilliant candidates just yet to take over us as a championship team. I'm also not sure there is a massively compelling reason to get rid of one good proven championship manager for someone else.

[Webbo]

Was Pearson considered a brilliant candidate before we appointed him?