tickler28 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Really name just one who is available and would be interested. You can't. Actually you have a point....bloody hell I can't believe it but you've hit the nail on the head....we have to wait until a decent manager becomes available. Conclusion: The reason Pearson has not been sacked is not because he's doing a good job but there's no one available at the moment we want....what a great endorsement for the bloke!!
NewburyFox Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 If we get relegated this season Pearson doesn't deserve another chance in the championship. We need to move him on and start again. Get Lennon in the summer. Why? He's got two play-off campaigns and a title win in his three seasons there.
Voll Blau Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 If we get relegated this season Pearson doesn't deserve another chance in the championship. We need to move him on and start again. Get Lennon in the summer. Know what you mean fella, I'll never forgive him for how he did in that division last season tbh.
tickler28 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Why? He's got two play-off campaigns and a title win in his three seasons there. So if he got us back up what then?
adam Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Why? He's got two play-off campaigns and a title win in his three seasons there. Because he is completely out of his depth in this league. Wouldn't fancy giving him another season in the top flight. This one has been bad enough.
Guest Col city fan Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Because the odds are, Pearson or not, we will be relegated this season. Then we could be stuck with a manager who doesn't know how to get out of the Championship and wants a huge change of playing staff rather than a manager who (despite his failings this season) has a bloody good track record there and would have roughly the same squad that he managed to 102 points in the Championship. The time to sack him has long gone IMO, with no good alternative on the horizon we may as well stick with him now, even if we go down, and give him a good chance of getting us back up. How do you know no-one else could get us straight back up? And possibly do a better job in the Prem. I'm not being provocative (Mods...take note), I'm making the point that no-one knows. Don't forget, it took Pearson more than one go at promotion. It's all speculation. What is factual is that this season (the only one that really counts), Pearson is making a pigs ear of it, both on and off the field. At the same time Burnley move out of he relegation spaces, we are firmly rooted at the bottom. Having spent nearly 20 mill on just two players. If anyone thinks that acceptable, it isn't. Werent many ridiculing Burnley and Dyche, on here, only a few months ago. As far as I can see, they have a game plan, seem up for the fight and are not being pulled through the media mill like we are. It's a rubbish season so far isn't it. Be honest.
Bayfox Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Well he said anybody so let's get on it, somebody call John ****ing Gregory didn't that allan evans fella have a 100% record v arsenal.
BlueSi13 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Neil Lennon is completely unproven managing in England and hasn't pulled up any trees at Bolton. If he had never played for City nobody would be mentioning him. Absolute desperation.
tickler28 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 The point being made here is we wouldn't want Pearson again in the PL so exactly what incentive is there for him to bust a gut getting us promoted again only to be sacked??
Guest Col city fan Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Actually you have a point....bloody hell I can't believe it but you've hit the nail on the head....we have to wait until a decent manager becomes available. Conclusion: The reason Pearson has not been sacked is not because he's doing a good job but there's no one available at the moment we want....what a great endorsement for the bloke!! Sorry,. Neil Lennon?
foxfanazer Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Neil Lennon is completely unproven managing in England and hasn't pulled up any trees at Bolton. If he had never played for City nobody would be mentioning him. Absolute desperation. Exactly. Think people need to be careful what they wish for
adam Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Neil Lennon is completely unproven managing in England and hasn't pulled up any trees at Bolton. If he had never played for City nobody would be mentioning him. Absolute desperation. what do we have to lose? Were rooted to the bottom of the league and have been since before xmas. We show no sign of improving and he still doesn't no his best 11. He is having a shocker and should be sacked.
tickler28 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Sorry,. Neil Lennon? I'd take Lennon every day of the week...although Col seeing him slump back in his seat when Danns was sent off and Liverpool equalised the other night didn't exactly fill me with optimism hes the man for a relegation battle
nettle Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Neil Lennon is completely unproven managing in England and hasn't pulled up any trees at Bolton. If he had never played for City nobody would be mentioning him. Absolute desperation. Sounds very similar to how you were describing Pearson when he was first appointed. I think we are pretty desperate now aren't we?
foxfanazer Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 what do we have to lose? Were rooted to the bottom of the league and have been since before xmas. We show no sign of improving and he still doesn't no his best 11. He is having a shocker and should be sacked. What does that have to do with Lennon?
BlueSi13 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 what do we have to lose? Were rooted to the bottom of the league and have been since before xmas. We show no sign of improving and he still doesn't no his best 11. He is having a shocker and should be sacked. Wolves probably said the same thing when they sacked McCarthy. Teams like us have an awful lot to lose beyond just our place in the Premier League. Pearson runs the club the way a business should be run.
tickler28 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 No one answers my question... relegated miserabky ....promoted next season again then what?
l444ry Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Neil Lennon is completely unproven managing in England and hasn't pulled up any trees at Bolton. If he had never played for City nobody would be mentioning him. Absolute desperation. Could you not say the same about Nigel Pearson before he came to us?
Guest Col city fan Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 what do we have to lose? Were rooted to the bottom of the league and have been since before xmas. We show no sign of improving and he still doesn't no his best 11. He is having a shocker and should be sacked. You know, this actually about sums it up. What do we have to lose really? Can it be much worse really? We are poor on the pitch ((just look at the stats) and Nigel, whatever motives he has, is making himself look silly off it. Can it be much worse or are people resigned to relgation and hope Pearson takes us straight back up again. Has it really come to that? Genuine question?
Mark_w Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Why are people so concerned about who would be better to replace Nigel Pearson? I suggest Palace fans are rubbing their hands in glee just now, acquiring Pardew, having just won quite a few games and having beaten us. West Brom fans will be happy also. Irvine was rubbish. Pulls isn't. In spite of all the criticism he's had on here, he's a proven and an experienced manager. I think they'll be safe. Would Villa fans really care if Lambert got the chop? The one manager punching above his weight is actually Sean Dyche. Again, lambasted on here which says more about this forum than it does about Sean Dyche. Sometimes a change is what a club needs. It gives a new approach and a freshening up of ideas. Sometimes it doesn't work. For me, this is why even the Thais seem torn. They know that Pearson is making a series of errors, but don't know whether to stick or twist. Both have equal creedance. Somebody like Lennon could come in and do what he's done at Bolton. Conversely he might not. No-one knows. I think it's just too late. We stick now and live with whatever consequences come. Really? We're concerned about who would be a better replacement because there's every chance the owners could get it wrong and we'd be stuck with whoever the replacement is. I've thought for some time that Pardew and Pulis are good managers. The fact that Palace and West Brom have appointed them, does not mean that we are guaranteed to appoint a competent new manager and the reality is we are stuck with whoever they go for. You seem to think that change is automatically a good thing, and that's just so obviously not the case that I don't know how you can't see it for yourself. Was replacing Pearson with Sousa wise? Of course not. O'Neill with Taylor, again the answers pretty obvious. Sacking a manager with no plan for where you go next is never, ever a good idea, and based on the candidates odds that shot up yesterday I don't think there's anyone better than Pearson who would actually join us. You can't tell me, with a straight face, that Neil Lennon is an improvement on Nigel Pearson. He's just not. An average run with Bolton, two good cup games and doing well with Celtic when Rangers aren't around is surely not good enough for people who are complaining about my lack of ambition.
nettle Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Wolves probably said the same thing when they sacked McCarthy. Teams like us have an awful lot to lose beyond just our place in the Premier League. Pearson runs the club the way a business should be run. And what Lennon wouldn't?
adam Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 We need to concentrate on this season. So many on here seem happy with relegation as long as Pearson runs the club properly. 4 wins all seasons suggests hes not running it in a way it should be run.
tickler28 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Really? We're concerned about who would be a better replacement because there's every chance the owners could get it wrong and we'd be stuck with whoever the replacement is. I've thought for some time that Pardew and Pulis are good managers. The fact that Palace and West Brom have appointed them, does not mean that we are guaranteed to appoint a competent new manager and the reality is we are stuck with whoever they go for. You seem to think that change is automatically a good thing, and that's just so obviously not the case that I don't know how you can't see it for yourself. Was replacing Pearson with Sousa wise? Of course not. O'Neill with Taylor, again the answers pretty obvious. Sacking a manager with no plan for where you go next is never, ever a good idea, and based on the candidates odds that shot up yesterday I don't think there's anyone better than Pearson who would actually join us. You can't tell me, with a straight face, that Neil Lennon is an improvement on Nigel Pearson. He's just not. An average run with Bolton, two good cup games and doing well with Celtic when Rangers aren't around is surely not good enough for people who are complaining about my lack of ambition. Lets say he gets us promoted again....what then?
Guest Col city fan Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 I'd take Lennon every day of the week...although Col seeing him slump back in his seat when Danns was sent off and Liverpool equalised the other night didn't exactly fill me with optimism hes the man for a relegation battle I think he knew that Danns had single handedly ruined their chances mate. There was no stopping the onslaught after that. Personally, I'd have taken Danns to one side after the game, and given him a good proverbial kicking. What a complete tit.
BlueSi13 Posted 9 February 2015 Posted 9 February 2015 Sounds very similar to how you were describing Pearson when he was first appointed. I think we are pretty desperate now aren't we? The difference is that Pearson took over a club at rock bottom and going downhill fast, he is the one person responsible for turning us around and putting us where we are today. Lennon has done nothing to warrant taking us over where we are now. Bolton is the perfect opportunity to prove himself like Pearson did with us.
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