Bellend Sebastian Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 And what was the significance of that? He adopted a blanket racist stance on all ethnic groups? I jest, of course. What he really means is that after that, all his mates were Muslims
Webbo Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 I'll try again. I was brought up in the Highfields and all of my friends were either Hindu Sikh West Indian or Italian...and then the Muslims arrived! You said a bit more than that.
DB11 Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 Why was Head Honchos post deleted? If we seriously are even going to go down that route in foxestalk GC I won't be hanging around To bother. If you saw it you know exactly why it was deleted. If you want to claim an entire religion is not welcome in society then please don't bother hanging around in General Chat because I certainly don't want to read racist posts.
Buce Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 You said a bit more than that. Can you give us some idea without repeating it?
Webbo Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 It's not really fair to say what was written but it wasn't appropriate for the forum.
Buce Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 It's not really fair to say what was written but it wasn't appropriate for the forum. Fair enough.
shailen Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 I'll try again. I was brought up in the Highfields and all of my friends were either Hindu Sikh West Indian or Italian...and then the Muslims arrived! It's sad that you judge a whole community just on some experiences you may or may not have had. Judge people by their personality and character, not by their religion. That is how racism starts and spreads. No one is born hating a person of a certain ethnicity, it's the indoctrination/experiences you may have had which cause you to believe them. The majority of muslim people are hard working and although admittedly there are some, like within every group, that are not. This is a character fault not a religious fault
ADK Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 I don't really get the hype when someone says they don't like a particular group. Unless they are calling for violence or some other illegal action then what's the issue?
bovril Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 I don't really get the hype when someone says they don't like a particular group. Unless they are calling for violence or some other illegal action then what's the issue? True. At worst it's a bit thick, especially when that group is as large and diverse as Muslims. But you can't really censor stupidity. Mods should have left his comment there so we could amuse ourselves at his expense.
Guest Bilo Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 Faith schools are a bad idea whether it be catholic, c of e or Islamic. Agree with that to be honest. They may produce good results and are loved by middle class religious parents, but they do nothing to aid community cohesion.
ADK Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 I don't think education is really going in the right direction anyway. It's all being centralised more and more in the name of cost cutting. Whether it's academies or faith schools or free schools it's a mess. I do think it is morally wrong for the state to teach a child religion as fact though.
shailen Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 I don't think education is really going in the right direction anyway. It's all being centralised more and more in the name of cost cutting. Whether it's academies or faith schools or free schools it's a mess. I do think it is morally wrong for the state to teach a child religion as fact though. Kids are being taught about how to beat the system rather than learn everything properly. Because teachers are assessed on exam results, they give their students every shortcut to pass exams. Absolutely wrong to force religion as fact, but I do think they need to teach various religious teachings to open the minds of children, but then it's up to them to choose what they believe in.
Mike Oxlong Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 Kids should be taught that religion is chock full of hypocrites. By way of example couples who choose not to have children are selfish says the man who has taken a lifetime vow of celibacy http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/11/pope-francis-the-choice-to-not-have-children-is-selfish
Guest MattP Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 I don't really get the hype when someone says they don't like a particular group. Unless they are calling for violence or some other illegal action then what's the issue? At least someone gets it.
Guest MattP Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 If you saw it you know exactly why it was deleted. If you want to claim an entire religion is not welcome in society then please don't bother hanging around in General Chat because I certainly don't want to read racist posts. No I don't. It was an honest reply to Merging Cultures about an upbringing. If we can't handle a post like that then GC will die very quickly. Any other ethnic group and no one would bat an eyelid.
Rincewind Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 Can you give us some idea without repeating it? I can have a good guess. There are many countries that would surprise people to learn were officially Secular. France, and USA two and a few Eastern countries were there are extremist groups. The Secular society campaigns against faith schools but not against religious freedom. I do enjoy the coversations on Twitter though late at night between atheists and theists. The latest argument is that science is an invention. I have more tweets favorited on this subject than any other. I was not brought up anything.My parents were not full on religious and allowed us to choose. Unless someone pushes religion I leave them alone. Well I try but just looking at what is claimed I find many faults.
DB11 Posted 13 February 2015 Posted 13 February 2015 I don't really get the hype when someone says they don't like a particular group. Unless they are calling for violence or some other illegal action then what's the issue? It was rightly removed.
Vossen Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 Any form of religion is brainwashing...so no religious schools at all, then deceide after YOU are 16
hejammy Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 It's fairly simple. If we take the stance of freedom of speech and freedom for people to make their own decisions, let anyone open any school they like. Have regular inspections, if they meet the requirements and do not teach any hatred, political stance, racism or anything else like that then let the school be. If it's not up to scratch shut it down. Don't give any public money until they can prove that it is a legitimate school, teaching the right things.
Bryn Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 There is nothing wrong with faith schools as long as they're robustly monitored. I went to a Catholic school in Hull situated a stones throw from the worst estate in the city. It took kids from the same background as the other schools in the city which continue to struggle (Hull being one of the worst educational districts in the UK.) The school continues to achieve outstanding results despite the challenges it faces (including in science, where the budget was so poor we weren't able to print worksheets, and English for which we had to hold fundraisers to buy new books to read). Despite having long decided to turn my back on Catholicism (I consider myself a Christian of unspecified denomination, a decision my school educated and supported me into making) I consider the Catholic ethos the school has as being a major reason for the school's success. Interesting that people are holding the French school system aloft as an example to follow. I have lived in France and it has arguably the most divided, inflamed and dysfunctional society in the developed world.
bovril Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 I'm sure there have been sweeping generalisations about other races, religions and nationalities in the past that weren't deleted from this board.
Webbo Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 I think most on here will know that I'm not some Guardian reading PC zealot. Just take my word for it, it wasn't acceptable. Now lets move on.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 I was in Morrisons this morning and there was a Muslim couple buying some Frazzles. Makes you think, doesn't it?
Rincewind Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 Yes, maybe they are part of this planet and not Martians after all.
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