Guest bss9401 Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 We are not cov or Portsmouth. We are not Halifax or Darlington. Nor would we be. Why not Southampton, WBA, West Ham or even Crystal Palace ffs! Pearson has failed. Move on.
chicagofox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 He's done absolutely no better this season than Taylor did it didn't do.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 15 February 2015 Author Posted 15 February 2015 I take it you've forgotten 2008-2009, 2009-2010 and his entire second stint before this season? We've gone from a set of supporters who idolised Iain Hume and saw Hossein Kaebi as a coup to a team with billionaire backers, no debt and a playing squad that could terrorise the Championship should we go down. If not for Pearson; we could very easily have gone the way of Coventry City, marooned in the lower reaches of the Football League playing in front of four figure crowds, seemingly never to return. By the same token whats to say if someone else had come in we could have been promoted earlier and already been an established premier side? Its all hearsay as we will never know, but lets not forget he has had success at a club with probably the highest resources in those leagues and achieved what was expected of him, and im sure plenty of other manager could have done the same, while undoubtedly others would have failed.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 15 February 2015 Author Posted 15 February 2015 you are = you're. I always find intelligence of posts are directly proportional to spelling and grammar. Shit, its the Grammer Police.......
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 15 February 2015 Author Posted 15 February 2015 I would expect idiots don't take much notice of them, it's a bit above your level of intellect. You are certainly 'special'.
shade Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Shit, its the Grammer Police....... grammar you complete moron, now I'm the spelling police.
Steven Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 If you mean he is only better then Frank McLintock, then probably yes. Since I have been a City fan, Pearson is worse than any top flight manager except Frank McLintock.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 15 February 2015 Author Posted 15 February 2015 grammar you complete moron, now I'm the spelling police. Ooooh, moron now eh, wasnt aware I needed a degree in English to have some football knowledge, I think someone needs to go and knock one out over his Pearson poster.
fox in the sox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Peter Taylor record...19 wins in 54 matches.
Finn Claw II Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Those who claim NP is anywhere near as bad as PT, really? Walsh, collymore, coffee out. Akinbyi (I'm sure that isn't the correct spelling but he isn't worth the effort of confirming), junior lewis, scowcroft, matt Jones, tricky trev.... Walker was a decent signing, that was about it.
Steven Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Those who claim NP is anywhere near as bad as PT, really? Walsh, collymore, coffee out. Akinbyi (I'm sure that isn't the correct spelling but he isn't worth the effort of confirming), junior lewis, scowcroft, matt Jones, tricky trev.... Walker was a decent signing, that was about it. Top of the PL after a draw with Sunderland.
st albans fox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Matt jones was ok - unlucky with the injuries this season is a wasted opportunity but we can get back with a sensible approach. does anyone really think we would get promoted under NP and then sack him? I expect the same issues would surface again. IMO, if we are not going to start with Nigel next season, we should get rid as soon as a suitable replacement emerges. tbh, after last Sunday, that may already be the agenda.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Anyone who suggest he is worse than Taylor or Dave Bassett for that matter are buffoons, pure and simple.
Guest Bilo Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 By the same token whats to say if someone else had come in we could have been promoted earlier and already been an established premier side? Its all hearsay as we will never know, but lets not forget he has had success at a club with probably the highest resources in those leagues and achieved what was expected of him, and im sure plenty of other manager could have done the same, while undoubtedly others would have failed. Leeds had more resources at their disposal than we did and were dumped out in the play-offs. We finished miles ahead of a team with players like Snodgrass, Becchio, Howson and Delph. All of whom went on to play Premier League football in the years afterwards. As well as Leeds; Forest, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United and Coventry all failed to bounce back at the first attempt. It could have been infinitely worse for us, had we taken multiple attempts to come up or struggled since promotion back to the Championship as Sheffield Wednesday have, we may not have seen the Thais come in. It was only the lure of a club that was not far away from Premier League football and going in the right direction that brought KP in. People are deluding themselves if they think Vichai and Top would have come anywhere near had we finished 15th that first season. Like it or not, we have a lot to thank Pearson for. When you bear in mind that names bandied around in May 2008 for Holloway's successor included John Gregory and Iain Dowie, it could have been very much worse.
Babylon Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Top of the PL after a draw with Sunderland. Shame the season didn't end then... all very well pointing that out, but anyone actually going to the games will know we'd been looking ropey all season despite being top. The bloke took the best team we've had for generations and dismantled it, despite spending more than Pearson has in his time here. Pearson on the other hand has built this team and got it to this league. This shouldn't even be a bloody debate.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 15 February 2015 Author Posted 15 February 2015 Leeds had more resources at their disposal than we did and were dumped out in the play-offs. We finished miles ahead of a team with players like Snodgrass, Becchio, Howson and Delph. All of whom went on to play Premier League football in the years afterwards. As well as Leeds; Forest, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United and Coventry all failed to bounce back at the first attempt. It could have been infinitely worse for us, had we taken multiple attempts to come up or struggled since promotion back to the Championship as Sheffield Wednesday have, we may not have seen the Thais come in. It was only the lure of a club that was not far away from Premier League football and going in the right direction that brought KP in. People are deluding themselves if they think Vichai and Top would have come anywhere near had we finished 15th that first season. Like it or not, we have a lot to thank Pearson for. When you bear in mind that names bandied around in May 2008 for Holloway's successor included John Gregory and Iain Dowie, it could have been very much worse. I dont for one minute dispute he has done some great things for us, but that cant buy unlimited blind loyalty. It was only fair he got a chance to manage this season and we all wanted him to learn from early mistakes and succeed, but it was clear after 3/4 months he wasnt even close to getting things right on a consistant basis, had not strengthened in the right areas and we should have made the change then when decent options were available to us, and perhaps we would now be in WBA or Palaces position? Even if a new manager wasnt as successful as Pullis or Pardew its hard to see 'anyone' doing as badly as Nigel has.
chicagofox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Anyone who suggest he is worse than Taylor or Dave Bassett for that matter are buffoons, pure and simple. If we're talking about his record as our manager in the top flight then no, they are not. In the top flight he has been completely inept in every aspect of his job.
hackneyfox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 If we're talking about his record as our manager in the top flight then no, they are not. In the top flight he has been completely inept in every aspect of his job. From Bentleys Taylor's win percentage (top flight) was 32.6 (draw% 18) McClintock's was 11% (but his draw % was 32) Pearson's is 16% (draw % 20)
Poopingtim Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 no hes not ,pearson is by far the worst.i dont care what anyone says taylor kept us up first season and was doing alright till that wycombe game,hes a shit manager i ll grant you,i was at the 5 0 bolton game,but pearson is worse.
HitchinFox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 no hes not ,pearson is by far the worst.i dont care what anyone says taylor kept us up first season and was doing alright till that wycombe game,hes a shit manager i ll grant you,i was at the 5 0 bolton game,but pearson is worse. Behave. We won the League Cup, finished 8th and qualified for Europe the season before Taylor took over. It wasn't like he came to the aid of a struggling club. Within 15 months of taking over a successful team, he'd "guided" us to the bottom of the pile and set us on the path of relegation and financial ruin. I've never called anyone names on here but I'm close to doing so with you. Not because I'm some sort of a Pearson fan (I'm not) but because you seem to defend, albeit in a roundabout way, what Taylor did to this club.
hackneyfox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 From Bentleys Roof We got 22 points under McClintock (5 wins, 12 draws) in a 42 game season, with two points for a win. That's equivalent to just under 25 points in a 38 game season, three points for a win. We're on course for 25 right now. So going to be close. Statistically Frank's record is currently better than Pearson's though, because McClintock was sacked with five games to go, and the caretaker only picked up two points from the last five games.
Finn Claw II Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Behave. We won the League Cup, finished 8th and qualified for Europe the season before Taylor took over. It wasn't like he came to the aid of a struggling club. Within 15 months of taking over a successful team, he'd "guided" us to the bottom of the pile and set us on the path of relegation and financial ruin. I've never called anyone names on here but I'm close to doing so with you. Not because I'm some sort of a Pearson fan (I'm not) but because you seem to defend, albeit in a roundabout way, what Taylor did to this club. Agree - we were on the cusp on being a very very good side when Taylor took over - the 5 2 vs Sunderland seems like a distant memory!
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 if anybody is actually debating that taylor is a better manager than pearson go and kill yourself
chicagofox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 if anybody is actually debating that taylor is a better manager than pearson go and kill yourself There is a debate to be had there as to who is a better manager. A debate that I happen to think Pearson might win. But if the debate is who was/is better top-flight manager for Leicester City I don't think Pearson would win. And I'm not going to kill myself and not should anyone else.
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