Too Slow Too Short I Don't get it?

[Bayfox]

I think Kramaric would be a far better number 10 than Tony, from what I've seen of Kramaric so far he really suits a free ranging behind the forward role.

not for me. kramaric scores goals. needs to be in the 18 yard box.

knocky can score 30 yarders. not seen that from kramaric yet.

[Danno]

Schlump is absolutely wank pasty.hes come up through the youth and you want him to be good but he really is shit, how he's nearly been ever present is one of many decisions of why we are bottom.i don't care what anyone else says our best winger left for Watford in the summer.

The same schlupp who's scored 4 this season?

[Babylon]

I wouldn't say Mahrez is particularly quick either, it's just Pearson being Pearson.

Nonsense, utter nonsense. To suggest this is just a Pearson problem is pathetic, the same question marks have been brought up on here for years about him and his pace. 

 

How many times do you see Mahrez manage to glide past people and how many times has does Knockaert go past a player? Mahrez might not be lightening as say Schlupp is, but he has a good change of pace that lets him go past players.

 

Knockaert's not just slow, he's glacial and it makes him ineffective when it comes to getting past players. It also makes him a liability defensively as we we've seen several times when he loses the ball he's incapable of getting back to his man.

 our best winger left for Watford in the summer.

  Yeah how's he getting on there?

[Alf Bentley]

Love to see Knocky just behind the striker with a free roll.

 

 

 

Not sure that's a good idea. It would slow him down even more while he was eating it and he'd put on weight and get even slower.

[LCFCCKEANO]

Even I think Pearson has ****ed up this season a lot, but I disagree here. Thing is, if he could think like Beckham or Hoddle, and had some sort of final product rather then repeatedly running into cul de sacs and doing unnecessary things in odd situations, we'd be good. He can't really cross, his shooting isn't all that, and his dribbling often leads to him doing too much, he'd get away with some I this if he had pace or some strength, which is were this argument comes into it. Give him a loan and some time to learn to improve his decision making then maybe he might be a prem player. Never one now, and especially in the no. 10, never seen him do anything remotely no.10 ish, whereas Mahrez repeatedly plays ridiculous through balls and is direct at running, and Kramaric vs Spurs looked v. Good there with good decision making

[J.Lisemore]

Feels a bit like the Max Gradel situation to me, with the possibility he might end up going onto bigger things in the future, he has ability, but at the moment very naïve.

[Dan]

I think this country in general is too obsessed with the physical aspect of the game, though admittedly in a side that will often be on the back foot you could do with a bit more pace than Knockaert has.

 

I still think he's a very decent player though. I'll be disappointed if he goes in the summer, which I think he will.

[cc_star]

Even I think Pearson has ****ed up this season a lot, but I disagree here. Thing is, if he could think like Beckham or Hoddle, and had some sort of final product rather then repeatedly running into cul de sacs and doing unnecessary things in odd situations, we'd be good. He can't really cross, his shooting isn't all that, and his dribbling often leads to him doing too much, he'd get away with some I this if he had pace or some strength, which is were this argument comes into it. Give him a loan and some time to learn to improve his decision making then maybe he might be a prem player. Never one now, and especially in the no. 10, never seen him do anything remotely no.10 ish, whereas Mahrez repeatedly plays ridiculous through balls and is direct at running, and Kramaric vs Spurs looked v. Good there with good decision making

 

Spot on

[Dan]

I wouldn't say Mahrez is particularly quick either, it's just Pearson being Pearson.

 

Really? He isn't lightning quick but he's still fairly fast. Just slows down when he's got someone to beat which is just using his brain.

[the-blue-wildabeast]

Nobody thinks he's particularly poor, just that he's not better than our other wingers.

 

 

I think fondness has a big impact on a lot of people's perception of him. In reality, he's a competent championship winger. Mahrez and Dyer were better than him last season and Dyer is a bit part player on loan at Birmingham now.

 

I do think that Knockaert has a lot of potential, but we're in no position to risk it now because as it stands he's not good enough.

 

I sincerely hope he signs a new contract with us though.

All these people who keep saying Knocky and even Albrighton are not good enough, how do you know, they have only played a couple of games each. When they are given a fair run of say 5-10 games then we can judge if they are good enough or not, but considering many of our regulars have had plenty of poor games but keep there places then I think these two have been treated poorly by our management, and can see no reason why Knocky would sign a new contract if Pearson stays. I think scenerios like this, also add in Woods, Moore and GTF and I think this 'great squad' harmony may not be all its cracked up to be.

[AKCJ]

All these people who keep saying Knocky and even Albrighton are not good enough, how do you know, they have only played a couple of games each. When they are given a fair run of say 5-10 games then we can judge if they are good enough or not, but considering many of our regulars have had plenty of poor games but keep there places then I think these two have been treated poorly by our management, and can see no reason why Knocky would sign a new contract if Pearson stays. I think scenerios like this, also add in Woods, Moore and GTF and I think this 'great squad' harmony may not be all its cracked up to be.

 

Knockaert has played 11 games this season. No goals, no assists and hasn't looked like a League One player. Let alone a Premier League one.

 

As for Albrighton, he's not as good as Mahrez or Schlupp and Schlupp is barely good enough.

 

 

It does my head in when people think players turn into Johan Cruyff while on the bench. In reality, they're there because they're not good enough to be starting.

[the-blue-wildabeast]

Can we just accept that Knocky is out of his depth at this level?  

How do you know if he hasnt had a chance to adapt and show what he can do at this level, and like others said, most other players have been proved to be not upto it yet, but they all seem to keep getting chances??

[cc_star]

All these people who keep saying Knocky and even Albrighton are not good enough, how do you know, they have only played a couple of games each. When they are given a fair run of say 5-10 games then we can judge if they are good enough or not, but considering many of our regulars have had plenty of poor games but keep there places then I think these two have been treated poorly by our management, and can see no reason why Knocky would sign a new contract if Pearson stays. I think scenerios like this, also add in Woods, Moore and GTF and I think this 'great squad' harmony may not be all its cracked up to be.

 

Knockaert has made 11 appearances and its not like we don't know his shortcomings (& positive aspects) from the many more he's made previously

[the-blue-wildabeast]

Are you blind? He's considered our 5th or lower choice winger. Where in my post did I say he's my 5th choice winger?

Mahrez

Jeff

Albrighton

Vardy

All preferred to Tony on the wing. Arguably Lawrence as well.

But realistically only Mahrez is better (maybe Albrighton but our great manager refuses to give him a chance). He is certainly better on the wing than Vardy and although Schlupp has done well in 3/4 games he has also been very poor in plenty of others. At the end of the day, a winger should be judged on 'end product' (Goals, assists, quality crosses etc), not just how fast then can run.

[Lambert09]

Agree with this. Pissed off he's gone now, but we may as well get over it. I think he'd be more then capable in the prem, but he's been given **** all chance. 

 

He will come back to haunt us, got Gradel written all over it. 

[cc_star]

But realistically only Mahrez is better (maybe Albrighton but our great manager refuses to give him a chance). He is certainly better on the wing than Vardy and although Schlupp has done well in 3/4 games he has also been very poor in plenty of others. At the end of the day, a winger should be judged on 'end product' (Goals, assists, quality crosses etc), not just how fast then can run.

How many goals, assists & quality crosses did Knockaert do in his 11 appearances?

 

Mahrez, Schlupp, Kram, Nugent and others do many positive things in a fraction of that amount of appearences - Ulloa, Vardy etc have other attributes which aid the team too

[the-blue-wildabeast]

The same schlupp who's scored 4 this season?

And that makes him great does it? If Knocky or Albrighton had played the same level of games I am sure they also would have 3,4,5,6 goals a piece but better overall contribution in term of good crosses, assists etc.

[Babylon]

And that makes him great does it? If Knocky or Albrighton had played the same level of games I am sure they also would have 3,4,5,6 goals a piece but better overall contribution in term of good crosses, assists etc.

Knockaert got 5 goals like year... in a league a damn site worse than the one we're now in. Whilst Schlupp has his faults, his goals return this season has been good considering the step up.

[Babylon]

He will come back to haunt us, got Gradel written all over it. 

In what way has Gradel haunted us? We were freshly out of league one when we loaned him out and we're now in the premier league. It's not like we've done that bad in his absence. We also stated that we didn't want him to leave, it's not like we released him.

[George mcfly]

The same schlupp who's scored 4 this season?

i dont care how many goals hes scored, how many as he missed and his touches are laughable.

Nonsense, utter nonsense. To suggest this is just a Pearson problem is pathetic, the same question marks have been brought up on here for years about him and his pace.

How many times do you see Mahrez manage to glide past people and how many times has does Knockaert go past a player? Mahrez might not be lightening as say Schlupp is, but he has a good change of pace that lets him go past players.

Knockaert's not just slow, he's glacial and it makes him ineffective when it comes to getting past players. It also makes him a liability defensively as we we've seen several times when he loses the ball he's incapable of getting back to his man.

Yeah how's he getting on there?

its not about that.last year he was and as consistently been our most dangerous winger,far better than knocky schlupp and mahrez who people wank over and hes got no end product.

[Babylon]

i dont care how many goals hes scored, how many as he missed and his touches are laughable.

its not about that.last year he was and as consistently been our most dangerous winger,far better than knocky schlupp and mahrez who people wank over and hes got no end product.

Schlupp barely played as a winger last year to judge. To state Mahrez has no end product and Dyer has is laughable. Dyer started 31 games (9 more as sub), scored 7 and assisted 7. Mahrez started 12 games (7 more as sub) and got 3 goals and 4 assists.... in a new country with a new team!! Be fair.

[George mcfly]

i think i am being fair i thought most on here under rated dyer,and im talkin about mahrez this season,he was decent last year but still a bit over rated from what i seen.

[Babylon]

i think i am being fair i thought most on here under rated dyer,and im talkin about mahrez this season,he was decent last year but still a bit over rated from what i seen.

So you're comparing Dyer in the Championship to Mahrez in the premier league... I think that's the problem.

 

I've never slated Dyer and have always been able to see his worth, I wouldn't have minded him in the squad this year. But all he has is pace, in this league your average defender is about as quick as we've seen with Vardy not ripping people to bits like he did.

[Danno]

All those assists schlupp has aswell.

[Stadt]

Doesn't explain poor decision making