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What do you think to this formation?

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In my opinion, this formation would suit our team and their individual abilities, also making us more potent in attack, and still as terrible at the back probably, this isn't a time to sit back, Our 2 natural goal threats are both being played completely against their strengths, they are both poachers who currently are ending up dropping back into midfield even when we have possession, they are never in the box, and our wingers are pumping balls into nobody, or constantly cutting in and playing diagonal balls that are so easy to defend.

 

We need to get our strikers in the box again. The amount of times I see us cross into nobody is embarrasing.

 

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=6f3c - ATTACKING

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=6f3d - DEFENDING

 

Attacking - 

Kramaric - Get into the box

Ulloa - Get into the box

Mahrez - On the left hand side(stronger foot), Get the ball into the box behind the defence and let the strikers attack it - Mix it up with cutting in.

Albrighton - Best crosser we have, not slow, get the ball forward and into the box

Cambiasso - of the 2 central midfielders, only get forward if a good counter is on, if not try to stay back and defend when neccesary

Central midfielder 2 - Prefer Drinkwater for this role as I think he is naturally more attacking than James, Box to Box

Konch/Jeff - Only attack when needed, move forward with attacks to provide option to pass back to keep posession if needed

DeLaet - Only attack when needed, move forward with attacks to provide option to pass back to keep posession if needed                                      

CB - Normal role

Hamer - Have a fag

 

 

 

Defending - 

Kramaric - Of the 2 strikers Kramaric to sit back the furthest as he's quicker than ulloa - Collect the ball if needed and link up the attack

Ulloa - Slower of the strikers, Sit on the last man and counter getting into the box

Mahrez - Drop back and help defend

Albrighton- Drop back and help defend

Cambiasso - Drop back and help defend

Drinkwater - Drop back and help defend

Konch/Jeff - Defend

De Laet - Defend

CB - Defend

Hamer - Save stuff

 

 

On the attack we always have atleast 5 going forward, if we are on a good counter or are putting alot of pressure on lesser opponents we also have Cambiasso, and the full backs potentially.

 

On the defensive we drop back and defend but keep a striker forward (preferably 2) and make sure the slowest of the 2 is on the last man so he can make sure he can get into the box.

 

Back to basics.

 

Thoughts?

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In my opinion, this formation would suit our team and their individual abilities, also making us more potent in attack, and still as terrible at the back probably, this isn't a time to sit back, Our 2 natural goal threats are both being played completely against their strengths, they are both poachers who currently are ending up dropping back into midfield even when we have possession, they are never in the box, and our wingers are pumping balls into nobody, or constantly cutting in and playing diagonal balls that are so easy to defend.

We need to get our strikers in the box again. The amount of times I see us cross into nobody is embarrasing.

Attacking -

Kramaric - Get into the box

Ulloa - Get into the box

Mahrez - On the left hand side(stronger foot), Get the ball into the box behind the defence and let the strikers attack it - Mix it up with cutting in.

Albrighton - Best crosser we have, not slow, get the ball forward and into the box

Cambiasso - of the 2 central midfielders, only get forward if a good counter is on, if not try to stay back and defend when neccesary

Central midfielder 2 - Prefer Drinkwater for this role as I think he is naturally more attacking than James, Box to Box

Konch/Jeff - Only attack when needed, move forward with attacks to provide option to pass back to keep posession if needed

DeLaet - Only attack when needed, move forward with attacks to provide option to pass back to keep posession if needed CB - Normal role

Hamer - Have a fag

Defending -

Kramaric - Of the 2 strikers Kramaric to sit back the furthest as he's quicker than ulloa - Collect the ball if needed and link up the attack

Ulloa - Slower of the strikers, Sit on the last man and counter getting into the box

Mahrez - Drop back and help defend

Albrighton- Drop back and help defend

Cambiasso - Drop back and help defend

Drinkwater - Drop back and help defend

Konch/Jeff - Defend

De Laet - Defend

CB - Defend

Hamer - Save stuff

On the attack we always have atleast 5 going forward, if we are on a good counter or are putting alot of pressure on lesser opponents we also have Cambiasso, and the full backs potentially.

On the defensive we drop back and defend but keep a striker forward (preferably 2) and make sure the slowest of the 2 is on the last man so he can make sure he can get into the box.

Back to basics.

Thoughts?

Bit complicated
Posted

My biggest problem, you've just about removed all of our pace from the side on the wings and up top. Our game was all about pace last year and when we've played well this year it has been too. So I'd say it's not back to basics as far as how we used to play, it's a new style entirely again.

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My biggest problem, you've just about removed all of our pace from the side on the wings and up top. Our game was all about pace last year and when we've played well this year it has been too. So I'd say it's not back to basics as far as how we used to play, it's a new style entirely again.

 

 

But the starting 11 is similar to that of all season? instead Jeff is replaced by albrighton (who's quite quick) and a much better player in every department apart from physically..

 

Jeff could easily play left back and offer the overlap but nobody trusts him there.. De laet still plays... and that's not to say that Vardy or nugent couldn't replace ulloa and kramaric.. But ulloa is our best goalscorer, and he needs balls into the box.

 

Agree with what you're saying about last season.. but it hasn't worked this year, Just think with our 2 "Goalscorers" being played against their strengths, it's time we "Give ourselves the best opportunity" :nigel:  

Posted

We're not going down because we haven't found the perfect formation, we're going down because we haven't played well enough regardless of what formation we play.

Posted

Could you not have just said, "what do you think to playing 4-4-2 and get the ball whipped in the box to Ulloa and Kramaric?"

 

Because the 4-2-2-2 and 4-4-2 are different formations, we've tried the latter.

Posted

We're not going down because we haven't found the perfect formation, we're going down because we haven't played well enough regardless of what formation we play.

 

Think we are going down because we've tried about 10 different formations, and the one's we have stuck with for the longest periods don't even suit the players we have for them..

 

Formation has been a major issue this season.. play to everyone's strengths, we haven't in the slightest... 

Posted

Think we are going down because we've tried about 10 different formations, and the one's we have stuck with for the longest periods don't even suit the players we have for them..

 

Formation has been a major issue this season.. play to everyone's strengths, we haven't in the slightest... 

Just think you're over-estimating how much of an impact formations have on performance. We'll still make defensive errors and still miss opportunities just like we have done all season, not because of the formation but because the players are below Premier League standard.

Posted

Just think you're over-estimating how much of an impact formations have on performance. We'll still make defensive errors and still miss opportunities just like we have done all season, not because of the formation but because the players are below Premier League standard.

 

Agreed, but you're playing bad AND playing against the strengths of your team... you'll never be anywhere but bottom  

Posted

Not buying into this 'playing to your teams strength' bull. Each player has different strengths, but on the whole most of our players suit a fast counter attacking style of play. Ulloa and Albrighton don't necessarily fit that mould, but why should we change our style to fit them in. It's no surprise that our best performances this season have involved Nuge and Vardy playing together, with pace in the wide (or wing back) areas.

I don't think we would create nearly as many chances by changing our approach just to chucking crosses into the box. Everyone is such a football manager expert on here.

Posted

Not buying into this 'playing to your teams strength' bull. Each player has different strengths, but on the whole most of our players suit a fast counter attacking style of play. Ulloa and Albrighton don't necessarily fit that mould, but why should we change our style to fit them in. It's no surprise that our best performances this season have involved Nuge and Vardy playing together, with pace in the wide (or wing back) areas.

I don't think we would create nearly as many chances by changing our approach just to chucking crosses into the box. Everyone is such a football manager expert on here.

You clearly think you are aswell...

It's not working? What would you do?

Posted

You clearly think you are aswell...

It's not working? What would you do?

Not at all, I'm pointing out facts as to the style of play we have adopted when we have picked up the most points and offered our best performances.

Its not working because we don't have the quality to win tight games. It's easy to create chances against the open teams because they attack too. It's the games against the teams who are set out to frustrate us which we haven't done well enough against. We need a player who is going to create that 1 good chance, or a dangerous set piece or something like that to win tight games.

Look at West Brom under Pulis. They are grinding wins against the crap sides either by a player with that extra quality scoring a good goal or by set piece efficiency. We lack this which is why it's probably bad for us that we are up against the bottom sides at home in our last 10 games because we don't have the quality to break them down.

Formations are only a tiny part in the game, it's still 11 v 11 no matter how you slice it and our 11 haven't been good enough at this level enough of the time. We have tried plenty of different ways to win, and none have been effective.

Posted

Why not send these plans in your job application when Pearson gets sacked.

You obviously think you can do a better job.

Posted

My line-up, for what it's worth..
 

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So two centre-forwards, two box to box midfielders and two wide players with a back four? What do you call that Lee? An inverted 2-4-4? 4-4-2? REVOLUTIONARY! 

Posted

So two centre-forwards, two box to box midfielders and two wide players with a back four? What do you call that Lee? An inverted 2-4-4? 4-4-2? REVOLUTIONARY! 

 

 

Sorry, can you just go back and quote me saying that? or is this just another ignorant post that adds nothing to the thread?

 

 Far too much of that on here.

Posted

My line-up, for what it's worth..

 

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Looks potentially strong mate, Nugent links it up better than Kramaric, providing kram stays forward he could have half a chance!! 

He's got no chance playing how he's being forced too at present, much be wishing he'd not bothered to come here 

Posted

Could you not have just said, "what do you think to playing 4-4-2 and get the ball whipped in the box to Ulloa and Kramaric?"

probably, but i'm the cvnt.

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