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Any well run club would be looking now a the direction it needs to go. Apart from the much needed financial side of things this has been a sobering and frankly painful season. We need quite a big rebuild and for me a whole restructuring of the football side from youth team to first 11. I'm not well enough informed to know who that might be but what we don't want is a stop gap manager just to get us back up but one with a wide philosophy that starts with decent discipline and raising of standards all the way through the club. Above all we need an owner to get a grip of the club and to stop fantasizing about us playing like Man City. Perhaps start with trying to win the fans over with simple entertainment and players that actually look like they want to be here and actually look like they are trying.

Well this really depends on what the make up of that 11 will be. We have some decent players at that level but several may be sold in the summer. Certainly think our keeper will go, Vardy probably retire and we don't really have another striker as I'm not sure Daka will cut it even at that level and may indeed leave.

I agree he has to go but the choice right now is limited. Clubs do not want to part with successful managers this late in the season. Maybe the options would be better and wider in the summer?

Surprised you can get any odds at all frankly. Just parking the 0 goals in the last five it is just 3 goals in the league since Christmas with 2 of those in one game. 11 shots on target in the last 5 games = one every 41 minutes (some may have different stat), and this doesn't include all the added on time at the end of each half so it is even worse than this.

We've had some very good Scottish players but McAllister is definitely one of the best. Made the game look very easy at times, almost as if he wasn't trying. For me Lennon would be the NI pick way over Taggert for eg but a quiet shout out to Derek Dougan who had a good couple of years with us. Savage beats King hands down for Wales. just a better player in all respects really. King was ok but Savage actually made a difference to us on the pitch. We'd have been a different team without his energy.

Nothing in the whole world is that bad.

It really doesn't matter who he picks none of them are good enough and all have their detractors on here so whatever he tries to do will be wrong. We've been completely stuffed this season by yet another round of terrible recruitment both in managers and players. Can we even score a goal?

Coulibally looks like a competition winner who can't believe his good fortune most of the time and wouldn't be out of place two divisions below where we are now.

Have you posted on here rather than on another team's message board? I'm no longer sure we know what that entails.

I don't think that would be an unpopular view at all. I'm just not certain that it would work and lead to peace. Thanks to Trump the world is now a much much more dangerous one than it was just a few months ago. His appeasement of Russia and desire to take the US along an isolationist route, unless there is some money grabbing rip off deal to be done to line the US's pockets, surely emboldens China to think they could attack Taiwan without American interference. It think we should all be worried that history is in effect in danger of repeating itself on a 100 year cycle. In 1839 Britain, along with other nations, signed the Treaty of London which was done to guarantee Belgian sovereignty and the refusal of German to withdraw troops from Belgium was used as the final pretext for Britain to declare war in August 1914. 100 years later in March 1939 the Uk along with France promised to guarantee the same for Poland. Both of these were followed by brutal world wars. I can't really see how such an agreement for Ukraine, which I think is what might be being suggested right now would lead anywhere but to eventual war with Russia, especially, if, as seem pretty certain, the US would not be interested in supporting. And of course the US was little interested in both wars and took several years to join. In fact the UK debt for money borrowed from the US in WWi was not finally paid off until 2017. We defaulted in 1934 as the debt owed was so great. The BBC quotes the following. ‘In 1934, Britain owed the US $4.4 billion of World War I debt (about £866 million at 1934 exchange rates). Adjusted by the Retail Price Index, a typical measure of inflation, £866 million would equate to £40 billion now, and if adjusted by the growth of Gross Domestic Product, to about £225 billion’. Indeed we took 60 years to finally pay back the WWII debt owed to the US. The escalation in production of weapons and equipment as well as personnel required now to redress the decline of the last 20+ years is going to stretch our finances to the limit. Trump is interested in only two things, his own ego, and money. He's a bully and a coward and one with no understanding or interest in the rest of the world unless there is a financial deal to be done. The best worldwide response to him would be a complete boycott of everything American from walnuts to cars etc etc.

Doubt we'd get our money back for him as things stand so think he will stay unless he or his agent try to force a move through. He's got promise but not shown enough for a big transfer yet.

The dog is frankly a non-story. He was given permission to have it the training ground by the club as a one-off. What is more worrying is that this article highlights that all is not settled within the club. Not even the disagreements, which, to a certain extent, are normal in workplace environments. But, more that this stuff has been leaked to the press and that the press feel the need to "big up" the story to make an article. If all was well and the club doing even OK on the pitch then this sort of story would not even make the papers. Moreover, we don't even really need this sort of article to highlight what we can all see. The results and the performances all indicate that the standards off the pitch are not what they should be and lead to suspicions that the players simply have no respect for the club. Frankly I'm not at all surprised to read this sort of stuff, it goes with the territory of any sinking ship.

I'm trying to think calmly but have to say that was the second match running where the performance of the team just wasn't good enough. I don't mind losing but it is quite clear that this set of players have essentially given up. They are not trying and it is a disgrace. The very least I expect is some effort but there just isn't any. I've followed the club for many years now, seen a lot of games and lot of poor performances. However, I don't think I've often seen a team who put in such little effort collectively as this lot. Not something I say lightly or often but most are not fit to represent our great club. We are down. The manger is clueless, the owner absent and out of his depth, the DOF incompetent, the head of recruitment useless. If a player came out tonight held his hand up and said I'm ashamed of that performance I'd, at least, admire their honesty. But we all know they won't. If I was the owner, I'd sack the manager tonight swiftly followed by the head of recruitment and the DOF. I'd then call in each and every player's agent and tell them that they won't be playing for us again and to find their client a new club. I'd genuinely rather see the youth team getting beaten every week for they might at least try. The first team squad not only lacks talent but also lacks any essence of pride of playing for Leicester City. It is clear some don't want to be here and the sooner most of them leave the club the better.

If true I'd say that's 60 million too much for this bunch of wasters.

I'm genuinely interested to know what you have seen in his managerial performance so far that gives any confidence at all that he can be an effective manager for us. As to working with his own players; how many would that be? Another 2, another 4, another 6, another 8? Whilst I'd agree we have not backed him in the last transfer window I don't see anything that gives me hope that things would be any better if we had. His post match interview with the BBC on Friday basically revealed that he has given up. Full of the "gap" between us and the likes of Brentford being unbridgeable. His side's performance pretty much backed that up. Truth is terrible financial mismanagement followed by two terrible manager appointments and very poor recruitment has left us in the mess we are in. RVN was a gamble and one which has backfired spectacularly.

I'm afraid if you look through history very little change occurs by people doing nothing and just accepting things as they are.

It is spot on. RVN's interview is also revealing. It is quite clear to see that; A; He has no clue what to do B; he has basically acknowledged publicly and presumably to himself that the gap between us and sides like Brentford is too big to bridge right now. A basic admission that the situation is hopeless for our own manager.

The Mclintock season was worse than pretty bad. Pretty sure we signed Roger Davies for a club record 300k from Brugge and he was terrible. But I agree with the last bit. At least back then they were hopeless and badly managed but did at least try. Considering how the game has changed and just how much these players get played I think this season and especially the last half dozen league games are the absolute pits for levels of performance, competitiveness and frankly effort. There were clearly players on that pitch yesterday who don't want to be at the club and were not trying.

Right now it doesn't matter who we get as nothing will change whilst the current set of players are in situ. I didn't think this until a few games ago but it is clear to me they have mostly given up are not playing for the manager or the club with real heart whoever is in charge. I don't have any names but whoever comes in next needs to realise that what they will be in is a long term project, not just a rapid promotion with the same group of players who won't be good enough next time either. The manager needs to be involved in all aspects of the football. We need a complete overhaul of the playing side from youth to first team. Moving forwards it is obvious we need to develop our own talent quicker and more frequently than we currently do. Young players need a clear pathway either to the first team or out on loan. Something we seem to fail to do consistently. We need a manager who instills a sense of identity into the way we play. neither Cooper and certainly not RVN have or had that. But all this is irrelevant whilst we have a useless DOF and a recruitment team that doesn't seem to be able to come up with the right players. Unfortunately this all needs a key ingredient missing in modern football, patience. I want us to be a club where young hungry players come because they know they can develop their game and a mix of seasoned pros who actually want to be here rather than those clearly just taking a last pay day. We're so far away from any of this right now that i think it will take at least 5 seasons to start to turn things round in a positive way. The owner needs to grasp this or sell.

Atrocious tonight.

Not even that good.

If he never played for us again I wouldn't be bothered. One of our worst ever signings.

This really is correct. The issues are very deep in the whole set up.

Huffed and puffed a bit better in the second half but the manger is clueless and the players look to have basically given up. Most are simply not of the required standard. Rudkin needs to be sacked along with the recruitment team. A completely fresh start in the Championship is required with new owners a different manager and an almost completely new set of players. I don't see the point in playing some of the current squad they are not good enough and not interested. Not even trying in my opinion. The club is a total shambles in all aspects.

Has to go. Really not having a manger at all couldn't be any worse.