FoxCal Posted 10 May 2015 Posted 10 May 2015 So as I'm sure most of you know, Mr Cameron wants to repeal the ban on fox hunting, and I'm certain that unlike him, the vast amount of people here are human, with emotions, a sense of morality and pain receptors. Just like the hundreds, perhaps thousands of wild foxes that are soon to be ripped limb from limb by dogs and the upper class on horse back. I'm not looking for a debate on your (or my) political stance. It's totally irrelevant, and a personal perogative, which shouldn't be a factor in your (hopeful) signing of this petition, opposing the repealing of the ban. I understand that they go through our bins and shit in the front garden, but the 'sport' of fox hunting is inhumane, and nothing deserves to have its life ended in such a way. I'm no activist, but I do know when something sickens me to the stomach, so please take two minutes to help the cause! https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-mp-keep-the-ban-on-fox-hunting-2 I'm sorry if this has already been posted somewhere, feel free to move or delete or whatever!
tom27111 Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 Whatever your stance on the subject (I personally couldn't care either way), if you think it's stopped, just because it's illegal, you're very naive.
MikeyT Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 Signed and shared. Makes me wonder why people get their rocks off from chasing a terrified and defenseless animal to rip it apart.
yorkie1999 Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 I noticed Filbert was looking over his shoulder when the torries got back in
David Guiza Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 Whatever your stance on the subject (I personally couldn't care either way), if you think it's stopped, just because it's illegal, you're very naive. Of course, but there's a damn sight greater chance of not happening if it's kept as a crime. Also shows a great deal about those involved if they continue to do it illegally. Incidently saw a girl around my age on FB saying how great it was and better than the alternatives, based on the hunts she's been on. Impressive that considering I was 13 when the Hunting Act was passed. Remember studying about some moron who tried to get the ban overturned as it inflicted his Human Rights. The clue as to why he failed lies in the name of the act.
Finnegan Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 The human right to dress like a posh twat, get on your horse and let your dogs chase a wild animal.
David Hankey Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 The 'Champagne Socialist' squandered hundreds of parliamentary hours debating and eventually bringing in this ban when there were so many more important issues to hand. What is so special about the vermin fox? It was put on this earth for no good reason and the sooner this law is repealed the better.
Rincewind Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 And the Tory toffs will spend hours on repealing the act while passing other acts in the background which should be known to the public.
Soar Fox Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 Who gives a fvck about foxes. They kill my pet chickens.
Finnegan Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 The 'Champagne Socialist' squandered hundreds of parliamentary hours debating and eventually bringing in this ban when there were so many more important issues to hand. What is so special about the vermin fox? It was put on this earth for no good reason and the sooner this law is repealed the better. Exactly, what is so special about the fox that it should be rounded up and killed for lulz? We've wiped out wild boars, wolves, bears, basically all interesting wild life. Foxes are one of our last apex predators. So they kill some chickens? That's nature. The masai lose the odd cow to leopards, they're not saddling up and hunting them all down. They just take the time to guard their livelihood through the night.
David Guiza Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 The human right to dress like a posh twat, get on your horse and let your dogs chase a wild animal. From memory it was relating to Article 8: the right to respect for private and family life; Article 11: freedom of assembly and association; and Article 14: prohibition of discrimination. Because, after all, the right to respect for private and family life definitely stretches as far as ripping apart foxes for a laugh - freedom of assembly definitely related to posh boys meeting in a field to kill a defenceless animal, and nothing to do with political, religious etc meetings; and we all know what a struggle it is being a rich white man, and all that discrimination they suffer.
Jon the Hat Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 If you don't like it, don't do it. There are many worse animal welfare issues to get upset about than this. It only came to the fore because it suited Labour to wind up their voters against the alleged Toffs who hunt. In fact the main impact is on the industry the sport supports.
Finnegan Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 If you don't like it, don't do it. There are many worse animal welfare issues to get upset about than this. It only came to the fore because it suited Labour to wind up their voters against the alleged Toffs who hunt. In fact the main impact is on the industry the sport supports. I can't really listen to any of these tenuous arguments in favour of fox hunting (and they're massively tenuous) without staring amazed at the simp clutching at straws and shaking my head. It's chasing a wild animal around the countryside, with a huge pack of hounds and hoping they rip it to shreds. How do you begin to defend that? It's even worse than dog fighting and bull fighting which are both pretty ****ing terrible. I'm not a vegetarian, I'm not an animal rights nut, I try and get free range eggs where I can but I'm clearly no ozleicester. I'm not even anti hunting, the likes of the Scandis doing a bit of licensed hunting and shooting a deer and eating it? Knock yourself out. But fox hunting is not only a pretty barbaric blood sport, it's also the most cowardly of all blood sports. In fact, it's so cowardly we should be embarrassed and ashamed about what it says about us as a people. Most people would frown at bull fighting, it's hugely weighted against the bull, who is tortured and tormented (long before the matador gets near it) to its death, but, shit, at least the loopy andalusian that leaps in there with it has some bollocks. I actually think the general toffery and cowardice of fox hunting annoys me more than the death of a fox. I reckon if you want to go fox hunting you should first be stripped of all weapons, cut a bit and dropped in Yellowstone with the druid wolf pack near by in the middle of winter. If you can survive them chasing you for a full day and still fancy the idea then you can chase all the foxes you want.
Rincewind Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 The English country gentleman galloping after a fox -- the unspeakablein full pursuit of the uneatable. Oscar Wilde.
Captain... Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 The 'Champagne Socialist' squandered hundreds of parliamentary hours debating and eventually bringing in this ban when there were so many more important issues to hand. What is so special about the vermin fox? It was put on this earth for no good reason and the sooner this law is repealed the better. What they actually did was challenge the way laws are made effectively exposing the house of lords as not only being undemocratic but also completely redundant, in that they refused to ratify the bill and through some obscure act from the 40s, the commons just went, tough shit we are still making it law. Thus showing that the commons is accountable to nobody and can and will do what it wants. Edit: Speaking of House of Lords reform, was very big in 2010, lots of promises to reform it (all broken), 2015 no reform and barely been mentioned in all the electioneering.
Stevosevic Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 It's weird that people are in to chasing an animal to kill on their days off.
westernpark Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 Foxes are a nuisance in the countryside. They eat people's livestock. They would be killed anyway, whether it be by gun or snare. Foxhunting creates jobs and it isn't just for the elite. The foxes are dead in a few seconds. We quite rightly save buildings that are part of our heritage, why not save foxhunting which is part of our living heritage?
Finnegan Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 Burning witches, feudalism, capital punishment, slavery and religious persecutions are part of our "heritage", we gave most of that up. Now it's all part of our history, where fox hunting belongs. If wild animals are attacking your livestock, take better care of them. Wiping every predator off the planet would be frankly tragic.
ADK Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 It's like the whole gay marriage bollocks. There's no logical argument in favour of fox hunting.
David Hankey Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 And the Tory toffs will spend hours on repealing the act while passing other acts in the background which should be known to the public. What utter tosh. This law has not worked. It was introduced with malice aforethought, ill-judged and ill-conceived. And just how many foxes were killed by dogs, 1%, 2%, whatever a very minute amount. To my mind if someone wants to uphold a tradition that has been going on for centuries just who were New Labour to attempt to bring it to an end. If these hunts people want to go out and break their neck in pursuit of the uneatable - carry on!! It's like the whole gay marriage bollocks. There's no logical argument in favour of fox hunting. There was no logical argument for banning it.
Guest MattP Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 It's like the whole gay marriage bollocks. There's no logical argument in favour of fox hunting. What was the logical argument for banning it? It was pretty clear it was just an attack from Blair on the Tory Toffs to please a section of his followers. It hasn't changed anything and it's totally impossible to police anyway.
David Hankey Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 What was the logical argument for banning it? It was pretty clear it was just an attack from Blair on the Tory Toffs to please a section of his followers. It hasn't changed anything and it's totally impossible to police anyway. and therefore, Matt, a complete waste of valuable parliamentary time.
Guest MattP Posted 11 May 2015 Posted 11 May 2015 and therefore, Matt, a complete waste of valuable parliamentary time. And police time as well, more so given the cuts that service is going to face.
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