MC Prussian Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Has it happened yet??? No, Planet Earth is still going strong. Yes, Shinji Okazaki is close to signing for LCFC.
Gerard Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Who is this Gerard chap on here. Is he a Liverpool supporter or something? I've never seen such outright drivel on here before. Vardy, Mahrez, Ulloa,Kramaric will all definitely be staying. What are you on Stevie? I just understand it a bit better than you. For a club not in Europe we will have six players fighting for three spots, five of which are valued at £7,000,000 or more. It might not even be three positions, it could be two depending on formation. The sixth choice player will hardly get any game time at all next season. He'll be as instrumental next season as Wood was for this season. The 6th choice player won't be earning his corn.
MPH Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 I just understand it a bit better than you. For a club not in Europe we will have six players fighting for three spots, five of which are valued at £7,000,000 or more. It might not even be three positions, it could be two depending on formation. The sixth choice player will hardly get any game time at all next season. He'll be as instrumental next season as Wood was for this season. The 6th choice player won't be earning his corn. Mahrez played well in the pocket behind the front three so i guess that would be four positions we have 6 people fighting for as its a position Kramaric can play in too....
Gerard Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Mahrez played well in the pocket behind the front three so i guess that would be four positions we have 6 people fighting for as its a position Kramaric can play in too.... Front three? We played 3-4-1-2 with Mahrez being the "1" in that formation.
Swiper Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Front three? We played 3-4-1-2 with Mahrez being the "1" in that formation. As well as Albrighton played towards the end of the season, I wonder if Mahrez might get some time back on the right with Nugent as the aforementioned "1".
Gerard Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 As well as Albrighton played towards the end of the season, I wonder if Mahrez might get some time back on the right with Nugent as the aforementioned "1". I can't have Mahrez on the right hand side when we play a back three.
davieG Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 I just understand it a bit better than you. For a club not in Europe we will have six players fighting for three spots, five of which are valued at £7,000,000 or more. It might not even be three positions, it could be two depending on formation. The sixth choice player will hardly get any game time at all next season. He'll be as instrumental next season as Wood was for this season. The 6th choice player won't be earning his corn. As an example this Shinji guy is supposed to be similar in style to Vardy we know that Vardy last season had a big drop in form we also know that he played the last few games with an injury. It would be safe to assume that not only are they cover for each other but to avoid them getting totally knackered due to their non-stop style that there will be a larger degree of rotation.
Stevosevic Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Who's bigger in Japan. . . Nishikori or Okazaki ? Number 8 on this list... http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/japan/world-cup-top-10/feature/top-10-japanese-footballers-of-all-time_154944.html (Japan's 10 favourite players of all time)
davieG Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Who's bigger in Japan. . . Nishikori or Okazaki ? Fujiyama
VLC86 Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 As an example this Shinji guy is supposed to be similar in style to Vardy we know that Vardy last season had a big drop in form we also know that he played the last few games with an injury. It would be safe to assume that not only are they cover for each other but to avoid them getting totally knackered due to their non-stop style that there will be a larger degree of rotation. This would be great for England as well, I recon Shinji could do a job for us.
LCCFox96 Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Good news that this one is almost done. 3 down and onto the next one. Why is it people feel it unconceivable that we might have 5 strikers on our books next season? Wood looks likely to be gone so with Ulloa, Vardy, Kramaric, Nugent and Okazaki we have 5 players who can cover all 3 forwarc positions between them with Mahrez also helping fill the deep lying role. That's 6 players for 3 positions which is perfect strength in depth and cover. We needed another striker to bolster our attacking options and we look like we have got one, be happy!
Gerard Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 As an example this Shinji guy is supposed to be similar in style to Vardy we know that Vardy last season had a big drop in form we also know that he played the last few games with an injury. It would be safe to assume that not only are they cover for each other but to avoid them getting totally knackered due to their non-stop style that there will be a larger degree of rotation. Well that makes more sense than the other comments criticising my opinion. Some people on here have no awareness or perception of the dynamics that make up a football squad. Each member of the first team squad has to justify his place and role in it. It's pointless having the 30th best player on £10,000 a week when he'll never play. Didn't Mourinho only have 20 in his first team squad last season and they expect to go deep in every tournament they enter?
artursteppe Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 I just understand it a bit better than you. For a club not in Europe we will have six players fighting for three spots, five of which are valued at £7,000,000 or more. It might not even be three positions, it could be two depending on formation. The sixth choice player will hardly get any game time at all next season. He'll be as instrumental next season as Wood was for this season. The 6th choice player won't be earning his corn. You are wrong! As you have actually said ( this would be called arguing against yourself ) 'He'll be as insrumental as Wood was for this season'. Exactly, Wood was still with us you chump. Nugent is probably an upgrade on Wood. Anyway, I simply said Vardy, Ulloa, Kramaric and Mahrez would all be staying. Go on, tell me I'm wrong!
davieG Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Well that makes more sense than the other comments criticising my opinion. Some people on here have no awareness or perception of the dynamics that make up a football squad. Each member of the first team squad has to justify his place and role in it. It's pointless having the 30th best player on £10,000 a week when he'll never play. Didn't Mourinho only have 20 in his first team squad last season and they expect to go deep in every tournament they enter? You also need to bear in mind that we are a high energy team using pace and closing down as a means of supplementing the shortfall in talent/football skills that the top teams have. that means that rotation is probably a greater requirement for us than them.
FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 Well that makes more sense than the other comments criticising my opinion. Some people on here have no awareness or perception of the dynamics that make up a football squad. Each member of the first team squad has to justify his place and role in it. It's pointless having the 30th best player on £10,000 a week when he'll never play. Didn't Mourinho only have 20 in his first team squad last season and they expect to go deep in every tournament they enter? Its called options fookwit! Plus, your not paying them so why do you give a shit? What about if we change and play 4-2-3-1? Ulloa Vardy Kram Mahrez And you have Shinji baby and the Nuge on the bench
LCFC FOX Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 thats the photo I was talking about. I think you've seen it now don't know how it got out though
Gerard Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 You are wrong! As you have actually said ( this would be called arguing against yourself ) 'He'll be as insrumental as Wood was for this season'. Exactly, Wood was still with us you chump. Nugent is probably an upgrade on Wood. Anyway, I simply said Vardy, Ulloa, Kramaric and Mahrez would all be staying. Go on, tell me I'm wrong! So we benefited from Wood's contribution how last season? How do I know if Vardy, Ulloa, Kramaric and Mahrez will be here next season? Only someone ITK or an idiot would state that for a fact. Which one are you mate? Idiot or ITK?
foxes_rule1978 Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 So we benefited from Wood's contribution how last season? How do I know if Vardy, Ulloa, Kramaric and Mahrez will be here next season? Only someone ITK or an idiot would state that for a fact. Which one are you mate? Idiot or ITK? Wood did score against Everton...
artursteppe Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 So we benefited from Wood's contribution how last season? How do I know if Vardy, Ulloa, Kramaric and Mahrez will be here next season? Only someone ITK or an idiot would state that for a fact. Which one are you mate? Idiot or ITK? Can't compete with you for those accolades!
Bagworthblue Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 I just understand it a bit better than you. For a club not in Europe we will have six players fighting for three spots, five of which are valued at £7,000,000 or more. It might not even be three positions, it could be two depending on formation. The sixth choice player will hardly get any game time at all next season. He'll be as instrumental next season as Wood was for this season. The 6th choice player won't be earning his corn. i'm a bit surprised at your stance on this bud! like me you were backing the clubs expansion plans and thinking forward, thinking bigger and moving away from the mentality of a small club - aiming big. We need to do this on the pitch too. We need a big quality squad and the Management team need to be able to manage a big quality squad. We need bench players that are as good as starting players and players not making the bench that would walk into other teams' starting X1s - We need them for tactical variation, to cover injury and suspension and certainly for strikers you often need to use 4 per game - i.e 2 subbed after 60 mins as required. Wood got little time last season but if he was fully trusted by Pearson and showing his worth in training he'd have made more appearances for example when Pearson stuck with Ulloa in that spell when he was ineffective and low on form. The big clubs have big players on the bench and missing out on the bench - we need to aspire to create that same level of competition to play. iMO there is room for Vards, Shinji, Kram, Ulloa, Nugent and Kram in the squad. If one gets injured / suspended/is low on form, you have your 2 starters and 2 subs - Nugent is also cover in the hole for Mahrez although I personally think you need a bit more quality in that position. Vardy if desperate can play on the wing in a 4-3-3 etc. Vardy's pace drops off at the end of the game so having Shinji replace him or vice versa with tiring CBs gives you that late game edge etc. Keep on thinking BIG mate !!
Gerard Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 i'm a bit surprised at your stance on this bud! like me you were backing the clubs expansion plans and thinking forward, thinking bigger and moving away from the mentality of a small club - aiming big. We need to do this on the pitch too. We need a big quality squad and the Management team need to be able to manage a big quality squad. We need bench players that are as good as starting players and players not making the bench that would walk into other teams' starting X1s - We need them for tactical variation, to cover injury and suspension and certainly for strikers you often need to use 4 per game - i.e 2 subbed after 60 mins as required. Wood got little time last season but if he was fully trusted by Pearson and showing his worth in training he'd have made more appearances for example when Pearson stuck with Ulloa in that spell when he was ineffective and low on form. The big clubs have big players on the bench and missing out on the bench - we need to aspire to create that same level of competition to play. iMO there is room for Vards, Shinji, Kram, Ulloa, Nugent and Kram in the squad. If one gets injured / suspended/is low on form, you have your 2 starters and 2 subs - Nugent is also cover in the hole for Mahrez although I personally think you need a bit more quality in that position. Vardy if desperate can play on the wing in a 4-3-3 etc. Vardy's pace drops off at the end of the game so having Shinji replace him or vice versa with tiring CBs gives you that late game edge etc. Keep on thinking BIG mate !! I'm not 100% against it but just questioning the logic. I don't care how big a club you are you still have to justify all your decisions. If Okazaki was a 21 year old then I would have no problem with it. I'm not being totally fair on Okazaki as I have no idea how good he is and only seen his goals on a you tube video. I'm judging him on perception only by his CV and think he's probably no better than what we already have. If he was young with potential fair enough or better than what we have then that's just as good. If he's been bought as cover for Vardy then that's a bad decision IMO, a club should only really be buying first team players or players who can develop into first team players. I'm just wondering what his intended role in the club will be?
sphericalfox Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 I'm not 100% against it but just questioning the logic. I don't care how big a club you are you still have to justify all your decisions. If Okazaki was a 21 year old then I would have no problem with it. I'm not being totally fair on Okazaki as I have no idea how good he is and only seen his goals on a you tube video. I'm judging him on perception only by his CV and think he's probably no better than what we already have. If he was young with potential fair enough or better than what we have then that's just as good. If he's been bought as cover for Vardy then that's a bad decision IMO, a club should only really be buying first team players or players who can develop into first team players. I'm just wondering what his intended role in the club will be? A tireless workhorse MKII. If you had him in the line up or on the bench and Vardy there too, as a defender in the opposition you know you are going to have a prospectively long shitty 90mins ahead of you. It allows Vardy to have a rest at times in the season, which is great as when your tired your decisions can be poor, and to some extent this happened at times with Vardy last season. A couple of sharp workhorses = me excited.
Bagworthblue Posted 26 June 2015 Posted 26 June 2015 I'm not 100% against it but just questioning the logic. I don't care how big a club you are you still have to justify all your decisions. If Okazaki was a 21 year old then I would have no problem with it. I'm not being totally fair on Okazaki as I have no idea how good he is and only seen his goals on a you tube video. I'm judging him on perception only by his CV and think he's probably no better than what we already have. If he was young with potential fair enough or better than what we have then that's just as good. If he's been bought as cover for Vardy then that's a bad decision IMO, a club should only really be buying first team players or players who can develop into first team players. I'm just wondering what his intended role in the club will be? I think they would have assessed his fitness as different players age at different rates and these days player careers can be extended into mid 30s even for pacey forwards. I imagine they believe they can get 4 - maybe 5 years out of him and although they may not have a saleable asset at the end, they probably believe the revenue he creates in the meantime will at least cover his costs. saying this he will probably only be offered a 3 year deal in any case. Odd use of the word I know, but by revenue I refer to his contribution towards success on the pitch in addition to any enhanced interest in LCFC from the East as a result. To an extent, we will need to have stop-gap signings with little / no resale value to give us immediate protection whilst we look to nurture younger talent as although we are on the up, we can't go spending £20m on single players just yet as we don't have enough revenue to spend that much under fair play rules. From what I've seen of him, he looks to have some similar attributes to Vardy but looks a different player that prefers to play deeper but also pop up in the box to pick up snippets whereas vardy uses his pace on the shoulder to create more, and especially create more space for his strike partner. I wouldn't rule out the 2 playing alongside each other at times too as a tactical alternative to our preferred hold up player.
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