Fans should now learn, not to be lazy and diss the manager or players too early.

[Strokes]

Drawing a line in the sand over this season and moving on, are those that were of the opinion Nigel wasn't up to the job, now going to cut him a bit more slack. If we find ourselves in the bottom three next season, how long before he finds himself under pressure? I know its a bit ambiguous but its not a loaded question, I'm genuinely interested in your response.

[inckley fox]

I never called for his head but I'll be fair to say he probably WAS out of his depth. Yet there were some absolute ****** on here who went OTT. It was embarrassing to watch them on here...

But Nigel learnt and learnt well. He always does. I'm excited for next season.

 

There's the crucial thing, he learnt. I always said 'if he shows signs of getting better, he's the man, even if we go down' (okay, so I got plenty of things wrong this season, but I feel I can at least find one shred of consistency in my opinions) but it looked for all the earth that he hadn't. Then he did, and spectacularly.

[Babylon]

The OP is spot on.

There have been many threads completely discounting many players this season.

Cambiasso aside (who has been spaffed over all season), they'd all had a turn.

Wes, Nugent, King, Jeff (especially Jeff), Vardy, Konch, Ulloa, Mahrez have had all posts about them claiming them to be not good enough, or in many cases, far more vindictive.

It's embarrassing and its scapegoating.

I've had sarcasm continually (from the usual suspects), but I say again..the supposed criticism I've given Cambiasso pales by comparison, with the mud that's been hurled at many of our other players.

Am I surprised or perplexed? Not in the slightest.

Probably because you never stop going on about it... Err just like you are again.

[inckley fox]

The most frustrating thing is the same old people constantly writing him off after bad spells. How many times do they need to be proven wrong before they actually cut him some slack!

 

In all fairness, you yourself said you didn't particularly care at one point, and were beginning to lean towards wanting him out.

[Guest Col city fan]

Probably because you never stop going on about it... Err just like you are again.

Errrrrrr....perhaps because everybody else has.

Certain posters have called for 'apologies' for questioning Pearson. How's about some of those people now apologising for giving our own players an awful lot of stick?

[Carl the Llama]

Let the DTs and Kitches of this world have their perma-sulks, the real lesson is for the daft twats who keep listening to them and trying to engage them.  Ostriches all round.

[inckley fox]

Errrrrrr....perhaps because everybody else has.

Certain posters have called for 'apologies' for questioning Pearson. How's about some of those people now apologising for giving our own players an awful lot of stick?

 

How about we drop all this nonsense about apologising all together?

 

We're all wrong sometimes. Some guys were right about 3-5-2 and Schlupp or Albrighton or Ulloa or, on the flip-side, Konchesky, others were right about Pearson. One of the main arguments in favour of Pearson was always that our players have let him down and were nowhere near good enough, and now we can see that this was wrong too.

 

Back when you were coming in for a lot of stick I had a look through your old posts to see if I was missing something. I could have done a 'Best of Col' which made you look like a prophet, and a 'Worst of Col' which made you look like a silly sod. The same could be done for me, Babylon, Manwell etc. 

 

These are good posters because they have distinct and interesting opinions which are well-expressed, well-argued. But come on, we're amateurs. We can't expect to actually be right!

 

So the only problem, as I see it, is how aggressively we communicate our ideas to one another. And I'm not sure that one particular group of 'wrong' people, be it the ones who didn't think our manager was up to it or the ones who didn't think our players were up to it, or the ones who thought both were / weren't up to it, takes a greater share of blame.

 

All that matters right now is that, as it turned out, both our managers and our players were good enough. And that matters far, far more than whether or not we were right about it.

[fuchsntf]

Believe it or not, most of us that called him, wanted the best for the club, which at the time, he looked well out of his depth, and his behaviour got more and more strange.

It took title winning form to get out of the shit, and that sort of escape is probably a one off, but credit to him, for changing his mentality, and changing the players that fans cried out for.

Pearson is stubborn, but he learnt in time.

Let's not twist what those who criticised him was saying, in those long dark months, and repeative tinkering, and formation changes, we all expected a tough season, but not as bad as it was, and we looked dead and buried, Pearson deserved the negative response, but to put that run together that he did, he deserves the praise, still don't know how we did it but glad we did.

Hopefully next season we can be more consistent, and have a little bit more comfortable survival.

Credit to one of the owners for holding their nerve, but Pearson needs to learn to handle himself in the press, as his behaviour this season hasn't been great, and the pressure will be even more intense next season, as expectations will be higher, as we will be expected to stay up, above the promoted sides, which I think is a fair expectation, and hopefully a progression to becoming established in this league.

You see, you presume you were right and all others thought a like.

Tinkering as you mention, every manager does it, Chelsea never stops.

Dark months , not in football sorry.

Formation changes...this is PL, I hope all managers are flexable and have guts to change on regular occassions, like

Chelsea, and Barcelona...

Pearson stubborn, thankgod for that. Please Nigel dont change

Handle himself in the press..bullshit, bullshit and bullshit again, not one manager especially top managers have only

smooth periods.Press, or outburst explosions are normal, so far nothing has made me feel shamefull, bloody funny..yes.

The trouble is some people, fans can only see negatives, so give them a platform, then see them explode negative narratives.

Then they need someone to blame...

like everybody, you, me, Pearson hopefully all want to improve, expand learn and change, not worth stating, normal steps and use it as a critical point.Not in football, sort of stating the obvious.

Pearson deserved the negatives.....why cos he didnt chose what you or your friends wanted.

He played and chose what he had in front of him, at that time, not one player could, hold, control or give out

one decent pass, so no matter what set up he went with, it was failing.Give the ball away on the pitch and

poor descisions on the inside of the whitewash, dont blame the manager.

Our football team were playing for the PL poor, I believe even Pearson was shocked, how Pspoor our dependables

were playing.

Its easy to find blame, find illogical faults, dish out negatives for the sake of it, just because one is

searching for the why.

Somewhere in March, those short spasms of game form, became longer, stupid mistakes lessened

Players committing more trusting the touch of their teammate, Cambiasso moves being understood, real belief, because of manager stubborness, shown in players body language and movement....Changed.

Also negatives from posters took a different stance and outlook.

Look there is no doubt even pesimists support their club, even I get depressed, but I eill look at all the why possibilities,

then, no matter what, give everything, everybody the chance.

If negatives came after december, might of myself agreed.

But from the start I knew they needed the whole season before I would send any crystal cutting negatives.

Whether it was Pearson, Dyche, even Bruce they earnt this full season.Harry noway, he had made his history.

Plus for city, there wasnt a better manager out there for this club.

My opinion Pearson has earnt after PL promotion 3 seasons or more at this club, before I opinionate any

single game negatives, or monthly periods, that accuse him of not being the rightman for the job.

I will say, next year if we struggle, I again wont be fussed, but if we are only in the bottom 4-5, anybodies position

should be questioned.At the moment he is a good 1st season PL manager that many would like.Far better than BBC

Leicester deserve to associated with, due to pathetic below belt journalism.

[bovril]

Drawing a line in the sand over this season and moving on, are those that were of the opinion Nigel wasn't up to the job, now going to cut him a bit more slack. If we find ourselves in the bottom three next season, how long before he finds himself under pressure? I know its a bit ambiguous but its not a loaded question, I'm genuinely interested in your response.

 

He's proved he can keep a team up so, yeah, I'll cut him slack next season if we are in the bottom 3.

 

But around October, November, December last year I was almost positive he didn't have it in him. I think that was a fair assessment when you look at how we were playing at the time.

[Babylon]

In all fairness, you yourself said you didn't particularly care at one point, and were beginning to lean towards wanting him out.

I never said I was leaning towards him going. In fact I think I've been pretty clear about him being in charge of we were to go down. I said after Hull I was starting to lose faith as I found his decisions in that game baffling.

[Babylon]

Errrrrrr....perhaps because everybody else has.

Certain posters have called for 'apologies' for questioning Pearson. How's about some of those people now apologising for giving our own players an awful lot of stick?

Nope, you're definitely the first person to bring up Cambiasso again.

[Monsell1976]

You see, you presume you were right and all others thought a like.

Tinkering as you mention, every manager does it, Chelsea never stops.

Dark months , not in football sorry.

Formation changes...this is PL, I hope all managers are flexable and have guts to change on regular occassions, like

Chelsea, and Barcelona...

Pearson stubborn, thankgod for that. Please Nigel dont change

Handle himself in the press..bullshit, bullshit and bullshit again, not one manager especially top managers have only

smooth periods.Press, or outburst explosions are normal, so far nothing has made me feel shamefull, bloody funny..yes.

The trouble is some people, fans can only see negatives, so give them a platform, then see them explode negative narratives.

Then they need someone to blame...

like everybody, you, me, Pearson hopefully all want to improve, expand learn and change, not worth stating, normal steps and use it as a critical point.Not in football, sort of stating the obvious.

Pearson deserved the negatives.....why cos he didnt chose what you or your friends wanted.

He played and chose what he had in front of him, at that time, not one player could, hold, control or give out

one decent pass, so no matter what set up he went with, it was failing.Give the ball away on the pitch and

poor descisions on the inside of the whitewash, dont blame the manager.

Our football team were playing for the PL poor, I believe even Pearson was shocked, how Pspoor our dependables

were playing.

Its easy to find blame, find illogical faults, dish out negatives for the sake of it, just because one is

searching for the why.

Somewhere in March, those short spasms of game form, became longer, stupid mistakes lessened

Players committing more trusting the touch of their teammate, Cambiasso moves being understood, real belief, because of manager stubborness, shown in players body language and movement....Changed.

Also negatives from posters took a different stance and outlook.

Look there is no doubt even pesimists support their club, even I get depressed, but I eill look at all the why possibilities,

then, no matter what, give everything, everybody the chance.

If negatives came after december, might of myself agreed.

But from the start I knew they needed the whole season before I would send any crystal cutting negatives.

Whether it was Pearson, Dyche, even Bruce they earnt this full season.Harry noway, he had made his history.

Plus for city, there wasnt a better manager out there for this club.

My opinion Pearson has earnt after PL promotion 3 seasons or more at this club, before I opinionate any

single game negatives, or monthly periods, that accuse him of not being the rightman for the job.

I will say, next year if we struggle, I again wont be fussed, but if we are only in the bottom 4-5, anybodies position

should be questioned.At the moment he is a good 1st season PL manager that many would like.Far better than BBC

Leicester deserve to associated with, due to pathetic below belt journalism.

Oh everything I have said is bullshit, and you are the fountain of all knowledge, you can sit there typing away, in the comfort that the last 7 games, gladly proved you and your masses of mates, that have now reappeared after the good run to prove the doubters wrong.

With your vast knowledge, get yourself down city in a coaching role, so we don't need to go 3 month odd without a win.

Pearson saved our season with 7 games to go, and it could have been so different, but gladly it wasn't, but if it does go the same way next season, I have doubts wether the same out come could be repeated, but what do I know, but I'm sure you do.

[Guest Col city fan]

Nope, you're definitely the first person to bring up Cambiasso again.

Yes amongst about six or seven other players.

Get over it..

[elvis f kennedy]

Utter yawn now at all these told you so's.how many do we need every one of us is happy to be proved wrong.let it go.

[DarkTranquillity]

It'll be interesting next season, if/when we go through a bad patch, to see if all the folk who said "I'll never doubt Nigel again" turn.

[fuchsntf]

Oh everything I have said is bullshit, and you are the fountain of all knowledge, you can sit there typing away, in the comfort that the last 7 games, gladly proved you and your masses of mates, that have now reappeared after the good run to prove the doubters wrong.

With your vast knowledge, get yourself down city in a coaching role, so we don't need to go 3 month odd without a win.

Pearson saved our season with 7 games to go, and it could have been so different, but gladly it wasn't, but if it does go the same way next season, I have doubts wether the same out come could be repeated, but what do I know, but I'm sure you do.

Nope...I am not a know-all.I didnt mind some negatives, I dont deny your right to negative opinions.

I had no idea they would stay up, I hoped and like every season belief, like my life, a new day offers new challenges,thats all.

I just dont understand, the reason to start and carry on with negative opinions, before chances are firstly offered.

In life when we make changes, get promtion, find ourselves at new higher levels, liveout struggles, I dont think anybody would

enjoy being slagged without some chance given in a decent period.It could of all gone wrong and continued to the end.

Then I could/would accept the closing negative opinions on the would given plight.

What I would stick to is, lack of need or point in being so negative in the 1st half of the season.Individual preferences opinionated OK, but the early slating, not idea giving, but slating of every single player and Pearson was unnecessary, and too

early. ...Hey if now after the season, you find things that you think Players and Pearson should of done better, I will jump

in the same trench, and fight for your right to say it, even though their might be some points of difference,

but you see, I believe in giving people longer chances in their next step up Careers, even overpaid, should know better types.

Especially having the character and understanding not to attack every single in detail mistake.

Life is so easy to smile and believe in the positives, why bother to go onto negatives, and criticis

[bovril]

Nope...I am not a know-all.I didnt mind some negatives, I dont deny your right to negative opinions.

I had no idea they would stay up, I hoped and like every season belief, like my life, a new day offers new challenges,thats all.

I just dont understand, the reason to start and carry on with negative opinions, before chances are firstly offered.

In life when we make changes, get promtion, find ourselves at new higher levels, liveout struggles, I dont think anybody would

enjoy being slagged without some chance given in a decent period.It could of all gone wrong and continued to the end.

Then I could/would accept the closing negative opinions on the would given plight.

What I would stick to is, lack of need or point in being so negative in the 1st half of the season.Individual preferences opinionated OK, but the early slating, not idea giving, but slating of every single player and Pearson was unnecessary, and too

early. ...Hey if now after the season, you find things that you think Players and Pearson should of done better, I will jump

in the same trench, and fight for your right to say it, even though their might be some points of difference,

but you see, I believe in giving people longer chances in their next step up Careers, even overpaid, should know better types.

Especially having the character and understanding not to attack every single in detail mistake.

Life is so easy to smile and believe in the positives, why bother to go onto negatives, and criticis

 

Why criticise fans who have / had a different opinion to you then? Just enjoy the moment.

[dedlock]

How many honestly thought after the Hull home game we would avoid relegation?

 

Three at the back had been tried for a few games,initially with Simpson and Konch as wing backs but without success.

OK we came close at Everton and nearly got unlikely  come back points at Arsenal and Spurs.

 

Who,seriously ,thought Albighton was the wing back he proved to be? 

Against WHam & WBrom DeLaet was RB

 

Kings late goals against WHam & Swansea were crucial but for me the turning point was Vardy's against WBrom.

 

If,unlike me,and I suspect most posters, you believed late March,7 points adrift that we would avoid relegation I applaud you.

 

Above all,I applaud NP ,the players and all at the club.

 

Having supported City for over 50 years I have come to realise it is never easy.

 

In late March I had forgotten " Foxes never quit "

[Raj]

These threads are now getting boring.

Let's not forget ATLEAST one of the owners doubted Nigel too,that's why he got the sack that Sunday night.

Even owners can get it wrong....

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Let the DTs and Kitches of this world have their perma-sulks, the real lesson is for the daft twats who keep listening to them and trying to engage them.  Ostriches all round.

   When I feel the need to criticise, than I will do just that, and not stopped by a bunch of  lame ducks..

 

It's a good lesson in life, to always say what you believe is right. If you don't like it, then tough titties.

[Carl the Llama]

   When I feel the need to criticise, than I will do just that, and not stopped by a bunch of  lame ducks..

 

It's a good lesson in life, to always say what you believe is right. If you don't like it, then tough titties.

Then it's a good thing that's what I did.

 

But of course you just wanted me to reply so I'd have to call myself a daft twat didn't you?

[demon_dog]

They say your never to old to learn, well I for one will admit that I completely flucked up, I said about 8 weeks ago that Pearson should have been sacked and was questioning the owners for not spending serious money on transfers this season.

I got it utterly completely wrong.

It just shows that even after 40 years of watching the City that they can still surprise us all!

 

On that note, thanks and goodbye all ..........................Fetches sword out and commits Hari Kari

[coolhandfox]

Yawn, city fans always find something to moan at, just enjoy the moment!

[Leicesterpool]

I'll hold my hands up and say of course had a lot of doubt Nigel was going to be able to turn this round. 

[MooseBreath]

The people who never criticised when we were rooted to the bottom, playing odd formations with strange team selections and making the same mistakes again and again; who just knew that we would go on to complete what is being described as one of the greatest escapes in premier league history... they are the only true fans. Everyone else, hang your heads in shame. In fact, we should probably ban everyone who expressed doubts from this forum. Only the great non-doubting posters should be allowed to post from now on.