Paris Shootings

[Claridge]

Sadly this can't be said for absolutely everyone - I know many Hindus who have indeed integrated well and in many cases don't take their religious traditions as seriously as others while at the same time I work with one lady who has lived in England since 1979 and until I mentioned that I was going on holiday there in 2013, she'd never heard of Northern Ireland. She'd also never heard of Michael Caine, Royal Albert Hall etc, which I could *perhaps" forgive, but to have lived here for thirty four bloody years, throughout the Troubles and IRA activity in mainland Britain, and to not ever have heard of Northern Ireland just shows how easy it is for someone to be so ignorant of the world she lives in. I know for a fact that, thanks to Sky, she watches only Indian TV and only hears about things happening in the UK if it is on there. {I'm probably most incensed about this because I am of Belfast heritage, point still stands}

It must also be pointed out that while there is a massive problem with non-integration with the Muslim community, you can't tar the whole community with the same brush. Again, there are many who have integrated and consider themselves British over being Muslim - the problem is that there are far more that are quite happy to live (like my Hindu friend) in their home country (or parent's or grandparent's country) and/or culture by proxy.

That's the problem, which makes people so angry about it - as you alluded to, we have ended up with bubble communities that exist within our own where people are able to live according to the laws and customs of their 'home' country (or the 7th century) via their religion.

If people want respect from the native British population then they should respect our country, culture and customs, and follow the example of their brothers and sisters who have. One problematic issue of course, is that Islam in particular is not compatible with Britain or the 21st century in many ways.

Yes I know people who have not really made an effort to become part of British society,but they are not going to blow other people up.100s of Islamist threats have been detected. Crazy to say some Muslims are not a threat.unfortunatly innocent people may suffer, but Britain will be a safer place if the Islamic community is more closely monitored.

[Dr The Singh]

Sadly this can't be said for absolutely everyone - I know many Hindus who have indeed integrated well and in many cases don't take their religious traditions as seriously as others while at the same time I work with one lady who has lived in England since 1979 and until I mentioned that I was going on holiday there in 2013, she'd never heard of Northern Ireland. She'd also never heard of Michael Caine, Royal Albert Hall etc, which I could *perhaps" forgive, but to have lived here for thirty four bloody years, throughout the Troubles and IRA activity in mainland Britain, and to not ever have heard of Northern Ireland just shows how easy it is for someone to be so ignorant of the world she lives in. I know for a fact that, thanks to Sky, she watches only Indian TV and only hears about things happening in the UK if it is on there. {I'm probably most incensed about this because I am of Belfast heritage, point still stands}

It must also be pointed out that while there is a massive problem with non-integration with the Muslim community, you can't tar the whole community with the same brush. Again, there are many who have integrated and consider themselves British over being Muslim - the problem is that there are far more that are quite happy to live (like my Hindu friend) in their home country (or parent's or grandparent's country) and/or culture by proxy.

That's the problem, which makes people so angry about it - as you alluded to, we have ended up with bubble communities that exist within our own where people are able to live according to the laws and customs of their 'home' country (or the 7th century) via their religion.

If people want respect from the native British population then they should respect our country, culture and customs, and follow the example of their brothers and sisters who have. One problematic issue of course, is that Islam in particular is not compatible with Britain or the 21st century in many ways.

Hindu's only threaten in India where they are a majority, the extremists hindus which are several millions if not a billion, only ave one aim, which is a 100% hindu India, they are not interested in UK, so don't pose a threat to UK

[Grewks]

The real question is why do our governments believe that the lives of syrian refugees, whose cowardly act of fleeing had led to hundreds of European deaths, are worth more than our own?

 

 

Because that is what they are essentially saying. Every single refugee which enters europe only increases the odds of (inevitable by the way) further attacks, so don't let them in.

 

 

'If they go home they will die' will not wash with me anymore. Letting them in will only cause more deaths (Estimated 8 terrorists yesterday killed 100+).

 

 

 

....Without wanting to be 'one of those guys' who uses a hitler analogy. The world is probably facing the greatest threat since then, we need to unite and destroy it.

[Dr The Singh]

Yes I know people who have not really made an effort to become part of British society,but they are not going to blow other people up.100s of Islamist threats have been detected. Crazy to say some Muslims are not a threat.unfortunatly innocent people may suffer, but Britain will be a safer place if the Islamic community is more closely monitored.

Already happens!!!

I travel all over the world, and have been to Syria and Pakistan. Every time I go to US, my bag gets searched, and I have been screened a few times aswell. My dad whonwears a turban, often has his turban screened

[Dr The Singh]

The real question is why do our governments believe that the lives of syrian refugees, whose cowardly act of fleeing had led to hundreds of European deaths, are worth more than our own?

Because that is what they are essentially saying. Every single refugee which enters europe only increases the odds of (inevitable by the way) further attacks, so don't let them in.

'If they go home they will die' will not wash with me anymore. Letting them in will only cause more deaths (Estimated 8 terrorists yesterday killed 100+).

....Without wanting to be 'one of those guys' who uses a hitler analogy. The world is probably facing the greatest threat since then, we need to unite and destroy it.

I know for a fact, that many disguised as Syrians have seeked asylum and are wondering in Europe. I have 5 cousins in Europe already, 3 in Germany, 2 in France, waiting to get into UK.

[Countesthorpe Fox 1884]

Suicide bomber had a ticket to the France vs Germany game....denied entry.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/attacker-tried-to-enter-paris-stadium-but-was-turned-away-1447520571

[Dr The Singh]

http://www.scoopwhoop.com/news/sikh-mans-tweet-paris-attacks/

Religion is truly evil,they are terrorist, those that Sikh there freedom

[foxychik]

Suicide bomber had a ticket to the France vs Germany game....denied entry.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/attacker-tried-to-enter-paris-stadium-but-was-turned-away-1447520571

I'm not surprised my initial thought was they were trying to get into the stadium, but also incredibly sadenned that football games are now a target for terrorists.

[steveherbe]

Frightening, the times we have walked into the KP around 11am to put up flags, left our bags inside and gone to the pub. Never been challenged, or our bags inspected. As I say, frightening.

[Larry_LCFC]

Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see this pave the way for basic searches of everyone entering football stadiums, particularly in the Premier League. They have enough stewards standing around at each gate.

[Great Boos Up]

I thought this was a cocked up attempt.

Thinking about it, one man with an AK47 and 2 suiside bombers.

Shoot your way through and one man to the left and one to right and bang.

Horrifying! I mean you couldn't comprehend the carnage. Three disillusioned men and anarchy.

The Euro's would be over!

[foxychik]

http://www.scoopwhoop.com/news/sikh-mans-tweet-paris-attacks/

Religion is truly evil,they are terrorist, those that Sikh there freedom

the vast majority of people who live with religion as part of their lives are good peaceful people using their beliefs to teach how to be good citizens of the world - in my own experience this is true I can't say I've met any religious person no matter what their faith who want trying to be better for it - it's not for me I admit, I believe in a basic decency and I personally do not need religion to show me the way.

The act of kindness in your link is a show of solidarity, compassion & humanity is it remarkable? No because the majority of people in the world are good kind and compassionate people and we should never forget this.

[Dr The Singh]

Think how many sleeper cells there are across Europe. Were lucky, we didn't open our border to the current refugee shit. But the risk is still there. Like many, life will probably will not be the same

[steveherbe]

I thought this was a cocked up attempt.

Thinking about it, one man with an AK47 and 2 suiside bombers.

Shoot your way through and one man to the left and one to right and bang.

Horrifying! I mean you couldn't comprehend the carnage. Three disillusioned men and anarchy.

The Euro's would be over!

Need something like the Nou Camp. They have gates before you get into the ground complex, guess they 'stop and search' there before anyone gets near the stadium. Must be a nightmare though with 90,000 trying to get in. El Swan and Rushes must do a roaring trade.

[foxychik]

Frightening, the times we have walked into the KP around 11am to put up flags, left our bags inside and gone to the pub. Never been challenged, or our bags inspected. As I say, frightening.

It time to bring back basic security checks at matches, back in the day we got checked to stop the hooligan element - interesting at nfl games you are only allowed a bag in the ground if its transparent

[Mark_w]

syrian refugees, whose cowardly act of fleeing had led to hundreds of European deaths

 

Are you serious or am I missing something here? What a disgusting thing to post.

[richardsfoxes]

The question is how do you fight these people, all of them don't give a **** whether they die or not, that's the frightening thing for me.

[Dr The Singh]

the vast majority of people who live with religion as part of their lives are good peaceful people using their beliefs to teach how to be good citizens of the world - in my own experience this is true I can't say I've met any religious person no matter what their faith who want trying to be better for it - it's not for me I admit, I believe in a basic decency and I personally do not need religion to show me the way.

The act of kindness in your link is a show of solidarity, compassion & humanity is it remarkable? No because the majority of people in the world are good kind and compassionate people and we should never forget this.

What fooks me off, these people (Sikhs), who offer protection, are labelled terrorist and extremist by the Indian government, and media without any justification, worse still the BBC and British media does nothing to report the atrocities against these people.

[Dr The Singh]

The question is how do you fight these people, all of them don't give a **** whether they die or not, that's the frightening thing for me.

What is the root cause? Find that and find your solution. Islamic extremism is nothing new, the only solution used so far is the sword to vanquish the extreme, but the issue comes back again and again

[Harry - LCFC]

There's a 'statement' from ISIS where they explain why they attacked Paris. I find it difficult to see how anyone could read it and continue to pretend to themselves that religious beliefs weren't what prompted these attacks.

 

It's here if you want to read it yourself https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTyxhPcUEAACeP8.jpg

 

 

The real question is why do our governments believe that the lives of syrian refugees, whose cowardly act of fleeing had led to hundreds of European deaths, are worth more than our own?

 

How is fleeing a warzone an act of cowardice?

[Dr The Singh]

Why is fleeing a warzone an act of cowardice?

They live by the samurai code?

[Larry_LCFC]

The bottom line is, there is no negotiating with these scumbags. The news stations last night were banging on about how the terrorists would drag this out until morning holding hostages etc to make their point. These "people" aren't interested in that, they literally want to murder as many as they can, as brutally and quickly as they can. If the police hadn't stormed in quickly, more would have died without a doubt. It sickens me that we share the same planet and breathe the same air as these monsters.

[Dr The Singh]

The bottom line is, there is no negotiating with these scumbags. The news stations last night were banging on about how the terrorists would drag this out until morning holding hostages etc to make their point. These "people" aren't interested in that, they literally want to murder as many as they can, as brutally and quickly as they can. If the police hadn't stormed in quickly, more would have died without a doubt. It sickens me that we share the same planet and breathe the same air as these monsters.

Very true, these terrorist beleive they will be going to heaven, where they and there families will be in everlasting rivers of alcohol and virgins to mate with.

[foxychik]

What fooks me off, these people (Sikhs), who offer protection, are labelled terrorist and extremist by the Indian government, and media without any justification, worse still the BBC and British media does nothing to report the atrocities against these people.

I'm with you on this unfortunately the media including the left of centre BBC don't report these things and they should its appalling what's happened in Paris but these acts are happening all around the world to innocent civilians all the time and it doesn't get the air time. I consider myself fairly well informed however, it was only after watching Anita Rani on who do you think you are I realised the extent and the terrible things that happened as part of the partition of India.

[Dr The Singh]

The bottom line is, there is no negotiating with these scumbags. The news stations last night were banging on about how the terrorists would drag this out until morning holding hostages etc to make their point. These "people" aren't interested in that, they literally want to murder as many as they can, as brutally and quickly as they can. If the police hadn't stormed in quickly, more would have died without a doubt. It sickens me that we share the same planet and breathe the same air as these monsters.

The only person I know who dealt with Islamic extremism and eradicated it, was a guy called Hari Singh Nalwa. The Sikh nation are the only nation that ruled parts of Afghan with any success, the Russians failed, US/UK failed, this guy ruled with iron fist against the unjust