ranieri99 Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Barcelona continue to dominate. Bayern Munich - preki could win the league with them. He hasn't exactly done anything that special in football. Will he get found out in his next job?
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Barcelona continue to dominate. Bayern Munich - preki could win the league with them. He hasn't exactly done anything that special in football. Will he get found out in his next job? Not done anything that special He has a near perfect league winning record and has won the Champions League twice, he's been managing less than 10 years.
ranieri99 Posted 22 December 2015 Author Posted 22 December 2015 Not done anything that special He has a near perfect league winning record and has won the Champions League twice, he's been managing less than 10 years. Yeah but look at the clubs he has managed. Barcelona do well whoever there manager is in my opinion. Look at there manager there now, he failed at celta vigo.
Babylon Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Not done anything that special He has a near perfect league winning record and has won the Champions League twice, he's been managing less than 10 years. I think the test will be this league for him, so we'll see then. Lets be honest he did walk in to two almost ready made teams already doing fairly well at his previous clubs, he was also in Leagues were more often than not you only have a couple of teams dominating. Rather than say four strong teams at the same time.
ranieri99 Posted 22 December 2015 Author Posted 22 December 2015 Just hate how everyone assumes he is the best manager in the world when he has managed the best clubs in the world. It's like saying Hamilton is the best driver In the world. No, that's alonso. Put alonso in the Mercedes and I'm sure he would win. Put guardiola in charge at Ipswich Town and they aren't going to win the Champions league in a few years.
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 I think the test will be this league for him, so we'll see then. Lets be honest he did walk in to two almost ready made teams already doing fairly well at his previous clubs, he was also in Leagues were more often than not you only have a couple of teams dominating. Rather than say four strong teams at the same time. You can't really do much better than win the league every year though, think you are selling Madrid short if you think La Liga is a cake walk. The CL is not easy to win no matter who you are in charge of. This league is a mine field he'd do best to avoid it but Kudos to him looks like he's goanna give it a go next year, I'd applaud that even if he does fck it up shows he is up for a proper potentially career damaging challenge he doesn't need to take on.
Collymore Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Don't get why some people care so much? Manwell sounds like his agent and the OP has no right to question him really. My balanced view is "who gives a ****?"
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Don't get why some people care so much? Manwell sounds like his agent and the OP has no right to question him really. My balanced view is "who gives a ****?" I am his agent.
AKCJ Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Just hate how everyone assumes he is the best manager in the world when he has managed the best clubs in the world. It's like saying Hamilton is the best driver In the world. No, that's alonso. Put alonso in the Mercedes and I'm sure he would win. Put guardiola in charge at Ipswich Town and they aren't going to win the Champions league in a few years. Tell me, why do you think Hamilton is driving the Mercedes while Guardiola isn't the manager of Ipswich Town?
AKCJ Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 His Barcelona team was well boring I wouldn't care if we were playing that style and winning quadruples to be fair.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Yes, he is. He has a unique system of playing where his teams dominate games and are uniquely difficult to stop: very few have been able to implement it in a winning team. sure, he needs good players to pull it off, hence why he manages elite clubs, but he improves good players technically so they are able to fit into his system. I imagine if Pep comes to Man city, they will improve drastically - Pellegrini is essentially playing a Guardiola-lite game
Babylon Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 You can't really do much better than win the league every year though, think you are selling Madrid short if you think La Liga is a cake walk. The CL is not easy to win no matter who you are in charge of. This league is a mine field he'd do best to avoid it but Kudos to him looks like he's goanna give it a go next year, I'd applaud that even if he does fck it up shows he is up for a proper potentially career damaging challenge he doesn't need to take on. I didn't say it was a cakewalk, but you do get two teams who dominate pretty much year in year out. I don't see it any more a test of a manager than someone winning the Scottish division by taking over Rangers or Celtic. Of course the champs league is a different matter, but as I said he had the best player ever and a load of the best of their generation fall into his lap. He's done a good job, that's not in question. But I do think it's fair to question whether he could walk into somewhere without a ready made team and produce the goods. He's quite unique really as people don't often walk into a top job without proving themselves elsewhere before with a smaller team. Without that there will always be question marks as to whether he'll be up there with the best.
ranieri99 Posted 22 December 2015 Author Posted 22 December 2015 Tell me, why do you think Hamilton is driving the Mercedes while Guardiola isn't the manager of Ipswich Town? Hamilton has more commercial qualities and will make them more money. He isn't any better than alonso. Guardiola isn't the manager of Ipswich Town because they don't pay him ridiculous sums of money.
Bayfox Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 yes he took over a very good side in Germany, but the things he implemented at Barca were top draw, yes they continue to reap the benefits now, but he took over a very fractious dressing room and made changes that produced one of the best sides the world has seen. It's ok having superstars, But as Man utd are currently showing, barca looked like they were passing for passing sake, but you have to have an end product. It also isn't easy to manage a dressing room full of superstars as Jose has showed recently, and keeping that desire. Barca have won something like 27 trophies in the same time as Madrid have won about 9. That's some feat. and a lot of that is down to pep. Although Enrique deserves some current credit for shoe horning that front 3 into the team and making it work. And because of this work and his record, he's not exactly going to get offered the ipswich town job, and if he did, then no I doubt it would work out, roy keane admitted part of his problem was that he expected to much from his players and they couldn't produce what he wanted, why because they weren't world class players and that's what he was used to working with day in day out.
Guest Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Just hate how everyone assumes he is the best manager in the world when he has managed the best clubs in the world. It's like saying Hamilton is the best driver In the world. No, that's alonso. Put alonso in the Mercedes and I'm sure he would win. Put guardiola in charge at Ipswich Town and they aren't going to win the Champions league in a few years. Thought that was Klopp! He's no Bobby Robson.
ScouseFox Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 agreed. like klopp, van gaal and the rest he will get found out when he actually joins a competitive league.
AKCJ Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Hamilton has more commercial qualities and will make them more money. He isn't any better than alonso. Guardiola isn't the manager of Ipswich Town because they don't pay him ridiculous sums of money. And why is Hamilton more marketable and why don't Ipswich pay ridiculous sums of money? Edit; I'll give you the answers. Because Hamilton will not give into pressure and is likelier to win Championships and Ipswich don't pay ridiculous money because they're not a big club and can't draw in managers of Guardiola's stature.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 mfw constructing one of the best teams ever isn't considered "anything special"
Soar Fox Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Lewis Hamiltion comes across as a right cvnt.
MooseBreath Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Can't stand euro football hipsters so it's nice that their favourites keep failing in the premier league. I think Guardiola will have his pants well and truly pulled down if he comes here. Cliché or not, tiki tokka or whatever isn't going to work on a metaphorical cold Tuesday night in Stoke. Next season especially when everyone will be trying to emulate Leicester's title winning style of play with pace and strength on the break. Guardiola will struggle to even keep up with the play. Says it all that Klopp was supposed to bring this ferocious gaygaypressing but his Liverpool team look like one of the most timid in the country. The euro trash is all over rated.
Fox92 Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 Just hate how everyone assumes he is the best manager in the world when he has managed the best clubs in the world. It's like saying Hamilton is the best driver In the world. No, that's alonso. Put alonso in the Mercedes and I'm sure he would win. Put guardiola in charge at Ipswich Town and they aren't going to win the Champions league in a few years. I do understand your point and somewhat agree but you could say the same about most, if not all, modern managers.
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