Gerard Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 There recent results suggest they will be hard to beat. 4 draws, 1 defeat and 1 win at home to man utd. Hard to beat but also hard to lose to on current form. They will value a point far more than we will, when your in a relegation battle a solitary point is decent but not in a title challenge. Now is not the time to be passive and try to limp home, we need to smash these fuckers.
Babylon Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 I see the rest of the season like this: 4 wins = we 100% win the league 3 wins = we almost certainly win the league 2 wins = we have a near 50/50 chance 1 win = unlikely to win it. We have four games that are an "easier" level: Sunderland (a) West Ham (h) Swansea (h) Everton (h) And then two games at a "harder" level: Man Utd (a) Chelsea (a) We should be targeting a minimum of three wins for the rest of the season. The easiest way to get three wins is to beat three from the first group. If we don't beat Sunderland then we will have to win every home game because for everyone of those we don't we're going to have to win away at either Man Utd or Chelsea and we don't want to be in that position. Sunderland have home advantage but they are the worst team we play for the remainder of the season. For me it's another MUST WIN and solitary points aren't going to get the job done. Just look at Tottenham away at Anfield last Saturday they were gutted not to win and we were celebrating that they only took a point. If we draw at Sunderland then the Tottenham players and fans will be given the extra motivation to beat Man Utd as they'll feel they're back in the title race. If we win at Sunderland then they'll be deflated as with a 10pt gap they'll see it as an impossible task. Agree, Sunderland is massive. Anything other than a win and you're going into a very difficult home game against West Ham, where in all honesty anything can happen. A draw in that game could be a fair point, but it would be terrible on the back of 1 or 0 points from Sunderland. Sunderland, Swansea and Everton are the three games you have to look at and say we need to win them. A point then from any of the other games and I think it would be enough.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 The fact we are even saying what results we need to win the title is just mind blowing Seriously my mind is completely ****ed up and I genuinely don't want to think about it too much until THAT game (if you know what I mean ) Up the Foxes Tough game at Sunderland but hopefully winnable
Gerard Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Agree, Sunderland is massive. Anything other than a win and you're going into a very difficult home game against West Ham, where in all honesty anything can happen. A draw in that game could be a fair point, but it would be terrible on the back of 1 or 1 points from Sunderland. Sunderland, Swansea and Everton are the three games you have to look at and say we need to win them. A point then from any of the other games and I think it would be enough. Before the Southampton game I targeted 10pts from the next four games. It was great to tick the Southampton game with a mission accomplished and 3pts. If we beat Sunderland then we can afford to draw with West Ham and would have to beat Swansea to get the 10pts. A draw at Sunderland puts a lot of pressure on us beating West Ham because if we don't we'll be hanging on at this stage as the critics and media gleefully predict that their prediction of Leicester bottling it is coming to fruition. As soon as you drop points then there is a hell of a lot more pressure to win your next game as I'm sure Tottenham will feel when they go out to play Man Utd.
chrisawhitmore Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Anyone got any advice on 'wrong-ending'? I live in Durham, so this is just down the road for me and if I can't get hold of an away ticket, I'm planning on getting a home ticket as close to the away end as possible and keeping my mouth shut. Any recommendations from people who've tried this?
les-tah Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Sunderland have got to go for it, there not in a position to sit back and try snatch a draw anymore!
Gerard Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Anyone got any advice on 'wrong-ending'? I live in Durham, so this is just down the road for me and if I can't get hold of an away ticket, I'm planning on getting a home ticket as close to the away end as possible and keeping my mouth shut. Any recommendations from people who've tried this? I'll be in the home end too with a mate who is a Sunderland fan. West Stand Row 5 Seats 134/135 Block 16 accessible via turnstiles 5-8. Get one near me if you like but if Leicester score late on I'll be up. I was in the West Brom home end and every time Leicester scored I stood up and shouted abuse at the West Brom players, I'll do the same for the first 75mins at Sunderland but go mental if we get a late winner.
Babylon Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Before the Southampton game I targeted 10pts from the next four games. It was great to tick the Southampton game with a mission accomplished and 3pts. If we beat Sunderland then we can afford to draw with West Ham and would have to beat Swansea to get the 10pts. A draw at Sunderland puts a lot of pressure on us beating West Ham because if we don't we'll be hanging on at this stage as the critics and media gleefully predict that their prediction of Leicester bottling it is coming to fruition. As soon as you drop points then there is a hell of a lot more pressure to win your next game as I'm sure Tottenham will feel when they go out to play Man Utd. This weekend will say a lot about where the challenge will come from now. This will be Arsenal's biggest Challenge as to whether they will manage a late run or not. Spurs not beating United could nail their coffin shut.
ARM1968 Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Big Sam will have them drilled and ready, but their confidence is brittle. More fight in them now though. Again, we play our game, play to our strengths, Mahrez scores and so does Vardy. Likely 1-3 win.
foxfanazer Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Our quality will prevail. Just can't see our solid defence conceding after watching them the other day 2-0 City
Detroit Blues Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 As much as I love DeAndre Yedlin, he doesn't do a particularly good job at blocking crosses. He has the pace to run circles around Albrighton, but he tends to play an extra yard off of the winger, allowing the space for the cross to come through. With his pace, he is dangerous bombing forward (just like Van Aanholt), but that plays into our counter-attacking style.
Dan Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Sunderland will not play into our hands. Allardyce is no mug. They won't gift us the win with tactical ineptness like Swansea did. If they beat us they'll try and do it the way we've done it in recent weeks. I'll be amazed if they push up and leave space.
Gerard Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Sunderland will not play into our hands. Allardyce is no mug. They won't gift us the win with tactical ineptness like Swansea did. If they beat us they'll try and do it the way we've done it in recent weeks. I'll be amazed if they push up and leave space. I agree, even if Norwich win the day before and they find themselves 7pts from safety they'll still play with a game plan that is based on nullifying us and trying to nick a goal in a game of few chances. They won't be daft enough to go toe to toe with us no matter what the situation.
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Sunderland will not play into our hands. Allardyce is no mug. They won't gift us the win with tactical ineptness like Swansea did. If they beat us they'll try and do it the way we've done it in recent weeks. I'll be amazed if they push up and leave space. This. Allardyce will play a team and a formation to keep things tight at the back, and to nick one going forward. You're right, he's no mug. One nil to them will still be three points. That said, I'm going for a draw. One each.
atomicfox Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 They need the three points just as much as we do,I expect a war of attrition and another heart attack inducing game in the final ten minutes.
dedlock Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 A must win game for Sunderland. While we could potentially drop points,if we are to win the league this is the sort of game we should win and on form would expect to win.
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 A must win game for Sunderland. While we could potentially drop points,if we are to win the league this is the sort of game we should win and on form would expect to win. I personally think a draw against a side who are fighting for their life, at their place, with a biggish crowd behind them, would be a good result. A win would be smashing, a draw more than acceptable IMO.
sdb Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 Tough game. Think it'll depend on who does their defensive duties best/worst out of Mahrez/pva. They're better than their position suggests I think.
Gerard Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 I personally think a draw against a side who are fighting for their life, at their place, with a biggish crowd behind them, would be a good result. A win would be smashing, a draw more than acceptable IMO. There is absolutely no logic in accepting one point as a good point for us. I bet you were pleased when Tottenham got a point against Liverpool? This is probably our second easiest game left this season, if we don't win here the pressure is on to win more difficult games. Averaging a point a game against the weaker sides isn't going to get the job done. If we get a point then fine and we move on but to say it's more than an acceptable result is just plain wrong.
foxfanazer Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 I personally think a draw against a side who are fighting for their life, at their place, with a biggish crowd behind them, would be a good result. A win would be smashing, a draw more than acceptable IMO.Really? Hope CR doesn't share that view.We are where we are because we've been winning games like this.
AKCJ Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 There is absolutely no logic in accepting one point as a good point for us. I bet you were pleased when Tottenham got a point against Liverpool? This is probably our second easiest game left this season, if we don't win here the pressure is on to win more difficult games. Averaging a point a game against the weaker sides isn't going to get the job done. If we get a point then fine and we move on but to say it's more than an acceptable result is just plain wrong. In Col's defende, Spurs aren't in a position to drop points whereas we definitely are. I'd rather we didn't, but we'd still be in a good position if we come out of this weekend 5 points clear with 5 games to go. Edit, considering we need 2 points per game to seal the title, a draw would keep us on course to maintain that.
SpinneyHillRanger Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 looking at their results... there only seem to be the odd goal in it... they aren't getting hammered in many games like Villa or Newcastle have been. Big Sam will have themsolid and hope he can "out-tactic" ranieri. not many weaknesses in our team, as we have recently shown against crystal palace and southampton - crosses into the box can be defended relitivly easily. it's not like they use defoe as a target man. It will be a tough game, but i think ranieri will set the team up right to get the win
foxfanazer Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 In Col's defende, Spurs aren't in a position to drop points whereas we definitely are. I'd rather we didn't, but we'd still be in a good position if we come out of this weekend 5 points clear with 5 games to go. Edit, considering we need 2 points per game to seal the title, a draw would keep us on course to maintain that. I think the next 3 games we need maximum points so we're not dependent on picking up too many from those tough looking last 3 matches
Gerard Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 In Col's defende, Spurs aren't in a position to drop points whereas we definitely are. I'd rather we didn't, but we'd still be in a good position if we come out of this weekend 5 points clear with 5 games to go. Edit, considering we need 2 points per game to seal the title, a draw would keep us on course to maintain that. I'd rather be 7pts clear with 6 to play than 5pts clear with 5 to play. If we draw and either Arsenal or Tottenham or even both win at the weekend our chances of winning the title will be less than what they are today. I'd settle now for getting the same result as the North London clubs win lose or draw but with our next three games being relatively easy I certainly don't want then gaining ground on us in this spell. If our next match was either Man Utd or Chelsea away I'd gladly take the draw but it's Sunderland. Everyone was happy to see Tottenham get a point away at Liverpool and we should be happy to get a point away at Sunderland? I'm not having it. I guarantee you if we get a point against Sunderland then the Tottenham and Arsenal fans will be delighted.
AKCJ Posted 5 April 2016 Posted 5 April 2016 I'd rather be 7pts clear with 6 to play than 5pts clear with 5 to play. If we draw and either Arsenal or Tottenham or even both win at the weekend our chances of winning the title will be less than what they are today. I'd settle now for getting the same result as the North London clubs win lose or draw but with our next three games being relatively easy I certainly don't want then gaining ground on us in this spell. If our next match was either Man Utd or Chelsea away I'd gladly take the draw but it's Sunderland. Everyone was happy to see Tottenham get a point away at Liverpool and we should be happy to get a point away at Sunderland? I'm not having it. I guarantee you if we get a point against Sunderland then the Tottenham and Arsenal fans will be delighted. You're totally missing the point. Spurs and Arsenal would be pleased to see us draw, but we wouldn't be as upset as Spurs fans were when they drew with Liverpool. I agree that our "chances" would be lessened, but not as drastically as you're making out. We'd still be two games clear with 5 to go. Ideally we'd want to win and Spurs to drop points because we'd then be 3 games clear. I'm not saying that we should take a draw I'm just agreeing with Col that it wouldn't be a disaster. Not even close..
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