That's me banned then...

[thybluefox]

I'm not going to go into scientific specifics with you because there isn't much point but nicotine consumption in itself is about as harmful as caffeine in the coffee you drink. The difference is that ingesting your nicotine through a e-cig / vape bypasses the hundreds of toxins in present in cigarettes. So whilst your acquaintances who are vaping might be 'more addicted' by which I assume you mean they 'put their vape to their mouth more times in a day than they would a normal cigarette' they're still in an unequivocally better place than they would be.

 

Your body will self-regulate as to how much nicotine it can physically ingest. An argument people have against vaping is that you vape more than you smoke because there isn't a physical 'end' to a vape. If you stand outside and smoke 3 cigarettes in a row your head will spin, you will most likely feel a bit sick and will stop smoking. If you vape 100 times over the course of 5 minutes you will still get the same feeling. Your body tells you when it has had enough nicotine. 

 

I'd advise your friends to look at lowering the nicotine level in their juice - they will still get the action of vaping - hand to mouth, something to do - but the ingestion of nicotine will be reduced. This is what I did - 24mg, 18mg, 11mg, 3mg, 0mg. Once you're down to 0mg you're literally vaping because it gives you the mental satisfaction and connection to 'getting away from your desk' or similar triggers that smoking originally helped you with. At that point it's easy to stop altogether.

 

I spent a lot of time during my 5 years of vaping reading, researching, attending various talks about it's safety, etc - I'd quite happily bet I know a lot more about it than your average Joe on the street. Hearing people call it 'pathetic' and a 'pathetic habit' annoys me because they have absolutely no ****ing clue what they're talking about. 

 

It is already SAVING LIVES and it will continue to do so as long as ignorant ****-heads don't keep spewing their stupid opinions and make the government think they're doing the right thing by banning it. 

 

As I've already said - on the flip side: e-gic users / vapers NEED TO RESPECT THE RULES that establishments put in place regarding vaping. By ignoring LCFC's request not to vape in the ground all you are doing is building a bigger argument against a potentially life / world-changing nicotine replacement therapy.

 

I've got no reply to that Daz - you obviously know much more about the subject than I!

[yorkie1999]

i like the smell of e- cigs. the cherry one at least.

do they come with different vapours?

Yes, even paynes army and navy sweets, which is the quintessential winter football match smell.

[Vicki Vixen]

It's one thing to play the "rules are rules" card, but the inconsistent application of the rules is what pisses people off.

 

LCFC terms and conditions state "Persistent standing will lead to ejection from the stadium".  Now if a steward kicked the whole of L1, UFS, etc. out of the stadium for standing up (even after a warning or two) there would be a mutiny.

 

I think people need to cut the OP some slack, he's a victim of selective application of rules that give Jon Moss a run for his money.

[StanSP]

It's one thing to play the "rules are rules" card, but the inconsistent application of the rules is what pisses people off.

 

LCFC terms and conditions state "Persistent standing will lead to ejection from the stadium".  Now if a steward kicked the whole of L1, UFS, etc. out of the stadium for standing up (even after a warning or two) there would be a mutiny.

 

I think people need to cut the OP some slack, he's a victim of selective application of rules that give Jon Moss a run for his money.

 

not if he'd been previously warned, I believe on more than one occasion (?)

[EnglishOxide]

not if he'd been previously warned, I believe on more than one occasion (?)

Exactly.

Also, he's come on here, asking for no sympathy and pretending to put out a public warning. When it's really about trying to gather bad publicity for the club so they overturn their decision.

The fact is that he was already warned but carried on. His mate was thrown out for the same thing. He resisted when asked to leave the ground.

That's 3 acts of stupidity that we are aware about (there might be more to the story than he lets on) that contributed to his current situation.

As for the 12 stewards thing, assuming it's true. Four is normally the standard for one ejection. My guess is that they weren't sure whether more resistance would be put up by those around him. Or it could simply be miscommunication on a stewards part.

As for stewards persuading an arrest, maybe it was for an actual criminal offence, incitement or something like that. However, due to the police taking no further action the OP can be given the benefit of the doubt and it was just an misinformed steward.

[Vicki Vixen]

not if he'd been previously warned, I believe on more than one occasion (?)

 

If you were warned once or twice by a steward about standing, and then ejected, would you take it on the chin?

[indierich06]

If you were warned once or twice by a steward about standing, and then ejected, would you take it on the chin?

 

I'd be pissed off, but I'd know I wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

[onekeithweller]

I'd be pissed off, but I'd know I wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

 

[StanSP]

If you were warned once or twice by a steward about standing, and then ejected, would you take it on the chin?

 

forget the standing. it's a different matter.

 

stick to the e-cig debate.

[AyewJoking]

if it were one person standing it would obviously be easier and far more likely for stewards to eject them.

 

if 100 were using e-cigs, they arent going to be moved.

 

the op was being picked on but if he was warned before..........cant really complain.

[Sharpe's Foxes]

Hopefully they get this sorted for you before the Everton game

 

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-fan-banned-home-game-season/story-29203957-detail/story.html

[fuchsntf]

Amazing...how far a person who breaks the rules, still expects sympathy,

then has the audacity to use his daughter in the argument.

He can fly for hours , without it, because his firm wont allow it.

Most likely upon firms grounds, even when he isnt flying, or knows there

are few possible areas where it might be allowed.Then he comes on,

claiming innocent bliss, we are suppose to be more intelligent than

animals because we are told we can reason.

This guy has travelled far and wide, collecting experiences, and should become

wiser, and has a father become more responsible.

His life has taught him to be an arrogant egoist whos let his family down, plus

his show of disdain for rules has put a black mark on the acceptability of others,

who also vape on E-cigs......Nice guy eh !!! Just a fool..eh.

I just hope I dont need to get on a plane, he pilots..Descision making aint his forte.

I have been both, foolish, a twt, inconsiderate sometimes, but never would think

of , still wanting to put my mistakes on any other..

[Sharpe's Foxes]

Amazing...how far a person who breaks the rules, still expects sympathy,

then has the audacity to use his daughter in the argument.

He can fly for hours , without it, because his firm wont allow it.

Most likely upon firms grounds, even when he isnt flying, or knows there

are few possible areas where it might be allowed.Then he comes on,

claiming innocent bliss, we are suppose to be more intelligent than

animals because we are told we can reason.

This guy has travelled far and wide, collecting experiences, and should become

wiser, and has a father become more responsible.

His life has taught him to be an arrogant egoist whos let his family down, plus

his show of disdain for rules has put a black mark on the acceptability of others,

who also vape on E-cigs......Nice guy eh !!! Just a fool..eh.

I just hope I dont need to get on a plane, he pilots..Descision making aint his forte.

I have been both, foolish, a twt, inconsiderate sometimes, but never would think

of , still wanting to put my mistakes on any other..

Seems a little harsh, no? He's willing to except an even greater ban and admitted to making a mistake. Who wouldn't want to the Everton game which may be a once in a life time experience.

[Benguin]

^{Whilst I feel that the ban is extremely harsh it's in the terms and conditions of your season ticket so if the club has deemed a ban as a necessary action to take there is little you can do apart from begging:}

 

 ^{2. King Power Stadium is a smoke-free stadium and smoking is not permitted inside the stadium, which includes the use of e-cigarettes and any other similar item.}

^{3. The Club reserves the right to eject any person from King Power Stadium failing to comply with any of the Ground Regulations, or whose presence within King Power Stadium is, or could reasonably be construed as, constituting a source of danger, nuisance or annoyance to any other person. This could lead to further action by the Club, including but not limited to, the withdrawal of any Season Card, and other benefits, without reimbursement.  Season Card Holders are expected to show respect to all supporters and staff and failure to show respect could result in the Season Card being revoked without reimbursement.}

 

^{Get on the blower or email and grovel using the whole lifelong fan, loyal supporter, once in a lifetime opportunity, was very trivial but understand my mistake and am extremely sorry and won't happen again. Keep doing it after they've said no, make loads of noise about it as I've seen you've already started with the mercury. Once someone high up hears they might feel compassion and let you off. Conversely they might feel that letting you off sets a precedent where it's not the end of the world if you brake the rules.}

 

^{Hope you're allowed to go to the game.}

[Jimothy]

Seems a little harsh, no? He's willing to except an even greater ban and admitted to making a mistake. Who wouldn't want to the Everton game which may be a once in a life time experience.

I feel really sorry for anyone missing the Everton match. But this guy knew the rules, had pre warning, had a mate kicked out for, but still went ahead and smoked his ecig. My sympathy slightly wains for someone stupid enough to take such a massive risk. Say we're in the CL final next year and you've got a mate who been told if he breaks some kind of law he'll be banned from travelling abroad (this is bad example because it's in Cardiff next year, so pretend it's not) and a month before that final he chooses to break that law, would you be sympathetic or would you think he's a monumental **** for even taking that risk?

If you know the rule and you know the potential punishment why even chance your arm? The fact it's the Everton game doesn't make me feel more sorry for him, it just highlight his stupidity.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

That is just so sad.

[Spiritwalker]

The only reason the punishment is harsh is because the Everton game is such an historic game.

Surely some compassion and common sense need to come into play. Why can't the club ban him

for the first 3 games next season, that would be double the original ban.