That's me banned then...

[Carl the Llama]

Smoking is an addiction, an addiction is an illness. We should be encouraging people who are willingly trying to give it up through whatever method they choose.

The less smokers in the world, the better place it becomes.

Nobody is asking for special privilege - e-cig users need to remember that not everybody understands how they work and should be mindful of where and when they use them. Chucking out clouds in close proximity to someone at a public event is never going to go down well - irrespective of how much better it is than actual smoking.

There needs to be a mutual respect but ignorance from either party won't help anyone.

An addiction is a self-imposed illness though, and when we're talking about nicotine addiction it sounds rather limp telling people you can't cope going 45 minutes plus stoppage time without a fix, especially when you clearly know the rules. Exercise a bit of self restraint and you'll not only keep those around you happy but you'll make yourself feel good with your own small personal accomplishment. Especially when the op clearly knew the rules and decided to chance it.

Before I'm accused of ignorance I've been almost a month cold turkey from an 8 year long intense pot habit which involved lots of nicotine consumption despite still hanging out daily with heavy smokers and potheads so I know a thing or two about exerting willpower over one's habits.

[lifted*fox]

You knew the rules.

Pay the price, yeah it's harsh but you puffing shite into everyone elses face/kids faces is still not right.

 

Get educated. 

 

http://vapeaboutit.com/scientific-study-proves-second-hand-vapor-is-not-harmful

 

 

 

The results of the study shown in the chart below (nd = not detected) indicate that e-cigarette aerosol alone contains less volatile organic compounds (VOC) than normal exhaled breath as well as normal indoor air.

 

So, quite the contrary to your statement - breathing out vapour from an e-cigarette produces less harmful compounds than NORMAL EXHALED BREATH. 

 

Not really 'puffing shite' into anyone's faces is it?

 

Again, just so it's clear for all you idiots who choose to only read what you want: I DON'T CONDONE VAPING IN PUBLIC SPACES WHERE IT HAS BEEN FORBIDDEN. 

[Adster]

The amount of hate in this thread for e-cigs - calling them 'pathetic' etc. is laughable. 

 

Irrespective of this lad getting a ban it wouldn't hurt for people to educate themselves on the good those 'pathetic' e-cigs are doing for smokers, hospitals and society in general (in the bigger picture).

 

Possibly one of the biggest advances in smoking therapy in MANY years - proven to help more people stop SMOKING (actual combustion of tobacco) than patches, gum, pills, etc.

 

Those 'pathetic' e-cigs will eventually save the life of someone you know, maybe your mum / dad / kids, whatever. Those 'pathetic' e-cigs will eventually reduce the number of cancer patients in hospital to the point where beds will free up for people suffering from other types of illness. 

 

And for the record vaping isn't smoking - vaping doesn't involve any combustion. To smoke is to set fire to, combust and inhale the smoke produced from burning tobacco plant material. Vaping is the act of heating up a liquid containing nicotine to form a vapour which is inhaled. 

 

You'd do ****ing well to educate yourselves on the matter before deeming it 'pathetic'. I'd much rather be sat next to someone inhaling a harmless vapour than inhaling the second hand toxins from combusted tobacco.

 

Just to make it clear - vaping helped me to quit a 14 year smoking habit. I don't vape or smoke anymore (7 months clean) but I'm a huge advocate of the good that vaping can do. 

 

Unfortunately for this guy they have made it clear (in my opinion) that using an e-cig in the ground will be punished in the same way as smoking, however different they may be - so therefore no way back from the ban. A polite word of warning first would have been the more amicable solution though. 

 

 

lol why don't you tell that to the millions of 16-year old kids who vape because it looks "cool"? Let's be honest, you and I know that people have started using e-cigs because they're new and they're the in-thing, whilst not being as harmful as proper cigarettes.

 

It doesn't matter whether it's smoking or not. It's still ****ing annoying to have some 18-year old with a hair cut like Joey Essex blow tonnes of flavoured steam in your face from their vape that they don't even need. It's almost as annoying as real ciagarette smoke.

 

Yes some people genuinely use them to quite smoking, but the trend has shifted massively from that in the past year or so.

[lifted*fox]

An addiction is a self-imposed illness though, and when we're talking about nicotine addiction it sounds rather limp telling people you can't cope going 45 minutes plus stoppage time without a fix, especially when you clearly know the rules. Exercise a bit of self restraint and you'll not only keep those around you happy but you'll make yourself feel good with your own small personal accomplishment. Especially when the op clearly knew the rules and decided to chance it.

Before I'm accused of ignorance I've been almost a month cold turkey from an 8 year long intense pot habit which involved lots of nicotine consumption despite still hanging out daily with heavy smokers and potheads so I know a thing or two about exerting willpower over one's habits.

 

Once again man (not sure how many times I need to repeat myself) I'm not making ANY excuses for using a vape in our stadium. LCFC don't want it - respect the rules and don't do it. 

 

I'm arguing against the ignorant people in this thread calling vaping a 'pathetic habit' without knowing anything about it or it's benefits to addicted smokers. 

 

Good work on giving up the weed - you should try vaping that, it's much better without tobacco.   (good for you though man, seriously.) 

[lifted*fox]

lol why don't you tell that to the millions of 16-year old kids who vape because it looks "cool"? Let's be honest, you and I know that people have started using e-cigs because they're new and they're the in-thing, whilst not being as harmful as proper cigarettes.

 

It doesn't matter whether it's smoking or not. It's still ****ing annoying to have some 18-year old with a hair cut like Joey Essex blow tonnes of flavoured steam in your face from their vape that they don't even need. It's almost as annoying as real ciagarette smoke.

 

Yes some people genuinely use them to quite smoking, but the trend has shifted massively from that in the past year or so.

 

I've gotta be honest mate, I can't say that I've seen an increase in 16 year old kids using vapes / e-cigs at all tbh. I'm assuming that to gather those figures you've been out on the street doing official surveys? Nope? Didn't think so. 

 

The people who wrote the article below though - they HAVE been doing surveys - actual, real life, facts and figures! Actual evidence! 

 

Read this article: http://www.clivebates.com/?p=3475

 

IF you can be bothered, which i'm assuming from your previous comment, you can't. Then come back with your same argument. 

 

Stop spewing out unfounded rubbish about something you don't understand. If you don't have the intelligence to form a proper, reasonable argument based on facts and science, that's fine - you don't have to get involved. 

[Adster]

I've gotta be honest mate, I can't say that I've seen an increase in 16 year old kids using vapes / e-cigs at all tbh. I'm assuming that to gather those figures you've been out on the street doing official surveys? Nope? Didn't think so. 

 

Stop spewing out unfounded rubbish about something you don't understand. If you don't have the intelligence to form a proper, reasonable argument based on facts and science, that's fine - you don't have to get involved. 

 

Jesus.

 

Read this article: http://www.clivebates.com/?p=3475

 

IF you can be bothered, which i'm assuming from your previous comment, you can't. Then come back with your same argument. 

 

 

Yeah. Cause you need a survey to view a kid vaping don't you.

 

Do you get out at all? There are tonnes and tonnes of kids vaping on these things, most of them who never even smoked in the first place. You don't have to be a genius (or do "surveys" ) to know that.

 

Your link to the article is valid, however there are hundreds of articles with statistics that people are turning to e-cigs instead of quitting smoking. It's basically an argument that could go on for ages.

 

I'm not going to argue with you mate but I think we both have a point. I've seen people successfully quit using e-cigs, which is great. However, I've seen plenty of people who never ever smoked before turn to e-cigs, for no reason whatsoever.

[Sharpe's Foxes]

Just be aware that there have been recent studies that Vaping can lead to mental disorders and plaque buildup.  Especially to be avoided seems to be the cinammon flavor because it may contain cinammaldehyde.  It seems like a good way to help one come off cigarette smoking but like anything should be used in moderation.

 

 

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/vaping-linked-host-new-health-risks

[Larry_LCFC]

You could argue it is harsh under the circumstances, but have we been given all the facts? Probably not. I always find it incredible that people cant last 105 minutes without a cigarette anyway, but each to their own. I've really got little sympathy tbh. If everyone ignored the rules and did what they liked, we'd live in a pretty shit world.

[Great Boos Up]

After sport, smoking is one of the leading causes of statistics.

[lifted*fox]

Yeah. Cause you need a survey to view a kid vaping don't you.

 

No, but you didn't say you saw 'a kid' vaping, you said 'millions'.

 

You've likely seen two or three more than before and exaggerated the number to suit your argument. 

 

Using an e-cig / vape is unequivocally SAFER for you and those around you (irrespective of what big-tobacco funded research is trying to make you believe) than smoking - with no exceptions. 

 

So even if you've never smoked a cigarette before, and you just want to do it to look cool then you are much better off with an e-cig in your mouth than an old-skool cigerette, which up until now would have been the only choice for the peer-pressured teen who wants to 'look cool in front of his mates'.

 

Obviously it'd be ****ing ace if neither existed but this the real world and people need their kicks to get by. Fortunately it's been proven that smoking is becoming increasingly anti-social and does in fact NOT make you look cool. The numbers of young people picking up fags or e-cigs is actually dropping. This is the right direction.

 

No argument man, I ain't got time for that shit, but just consider your argument a little more before talking shit - people need to be supporting vaping, not dismissing it. 

[Cornish Lair]

Maybe all Leicester fans who have sympathy for this guy, should all buy an e-cig, and stick it in their mouth, don't have to inhale it, at a certain time during the home match with Everton.

 

They can't ban everyone, can they, and if they were not inhaling, how can they prove that they were.

 

As a non-smoker I think that this ban is really harsh, no need of it being this close to a title winning season, when there must be hundreds of smokers who are getting away with it, but have not been singled out.

[lifted*fox]

I don't think there's much sympathy for the act itself from anyone tbh because he broke a rule that really, is quite clear to most people because it's written and announced in/around the ground. It really should be reasonably clear just from using common sense as well.

 

Having said that, when I was vaping in years gone by I might have had a sneaky little inhale on it during a game - but it's quite easy to inhale so little and hold your breath for long enough that the vapour doesn't come back out. I'm going to assume the guy must have been busting out some clouds to actually get caught and pulled up on it. 

[smr]

"busting out some clouds" lol

[Guest Mee-9]

You broke the rules, no amount of statistics gunna get you out of that mess.

 

Giggity. 

[yorkie1999]

Rules rules rules. Theres a rule that says that you cant bring alchohol into the ground, yet we were ok to take the free bottle of singha in on the owners birthday.

[lifted*fox]

Ain't it just. I ****ing love it when people get all high and mighty like they've never broken a rule in their life. It's an argument that suits them at the time but Mee-9 will be crying like a little bitch when he breaks a rule he thinks is stupid and tries to excuse himself. 

 

"I just parked there for a second traffic warden while my pregnant wife popped into that toilet". 

 

"See them yellow lines bitch, RULES MOTHER****ER. RULES."

 

"Well that's a stupid rule..."

 

[Jace]

People have been banned for far less, remember the boy who threw a roll of sandwich bags in the air to create atmosphere? 

[MC Prussian]

People have been banned for far less, remember the boy who threw a roll of sandwich bags in the air to create atmosphere? 

 

Whatever happened to that old fart who once shouted rather foul abuse at a rather successful LCFC manager not so long ago, I wonder?

[Resonate]

There are some pretty ill informed people on this forum. If you had bothered to read my posts you will see I acknowledged the fact I did wrong and have apologised to the club. That should put the matter to bed. I also stated I am looking for no sympathy, this is a warning to other people, of which I see a lot every week, to be careful. I do not feel I deserve, as a 30+ year fan to miss us possibly lift the title for something that is not illegal and so innocuous. I also don't feel I should be treated like an animal as a result and have them attempt to get me arrested. Yes it's a rule but there are a lot of double standards here. The owners flog fags, they advertise e-cigs in the ground. For information I Vape 0% nicotine juice. So the core ingredient is a food product called VG. You know them smoke machines DJ's blow at party's inside the stadium? Guess what, identical ingredients. So all the haters please don't ever get near one of them for Christ sake, especially if it's blowing outdoors....

Enjoy the game people it's going to be special.

[Vardinhio]

It's harsh mate but there seems little you can do. Perhaps just put it down to experience unless you can directly speak to the supporter liaison manager for one final plea of leniency.

If not....shotgun your ticket

[Blackpool Fox 69]

This may be unpopular but rules are rules.

 

I used to smoke, now I use an e cig.  There are signs everywhere that you can't do either in the ground.  They open up the doors at half time to allow you to go outside and smoke.  If you can't go 45 minutes to an hour without smoking then there is a problem.

 

The rules are there for everyone to see, and it's not like these rules just apply to our stadium, they are the rules for pretty much every public building in the entire country.  I turn my e cig off as I enter the ground, swith it back on at halftime, outside, and then turn it off again until the end of the match.

 

If rules are there, whether we agree with them or not, then the rules have to be followed.

Have they started the half time opening the doors again? It stopped after Paris so I've not bothered leaving my seat to go for a smoke at half time.

[AyewJoking]

i like the smell of e- cigs. the cherry one at least.

 

do they come with different vapours?

[Filbert_Ross]

Have they started the half time opening the doors again? It stopped after Paris so I've not bothered leaving my seat to go for a smoke at half time.

They kept the doors shut for about 2 games.

[Jimbo]

Have they started the half time opening the doors again? It stopped after Paris so I've not bothered leaving my seat to go for a smoke at half time.

Yeah, it's been back for quite a while now, it had in the east stand anyway

[Blackpool Fox 69]

They kept the doors shut for about 2 games.

 

 

Yeah, it's been back for quite a while now, it had in the east stand anyway

Cheers fellas!