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Jock Wallace

Should 'You'll Never Walk Alone' Be Sung On Saturday - JFT96

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To take on the establishment and get the truth out is an amazing achievement.  I would love the Leicester fans join to in with the Merseyside football family and sing a rousing rendition of YNWA.   Two Leicester brothers died in that tragedy. Never forget what happened that day.  

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On the biggest day in our history? It's a day of celebration and happiness. No disrespect intended, but absolutely not.

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As above, no disrespect but this wouldn't be at all suitable. 

 

You'd probably get more joining in with this than do for WYS now sadly.

Sad but true. More people know the bloody words to YNWA that's for sure. 

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there will be some sort of tribute to them i think but to sing liverpool's song would be disrespectful to liverpool and to leicester really.

 

there are other ways to mark their passing and their justice and i believe we should be singing YNWA would not be it for me.  

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On the biggest day in our history? It's a day of celebration and happiness. No disrespect intended, but absolutely not.

YNWA is a about celebration and happiness. Overcoming diversity and standing together. Like LCFC.. and The Justice for the 96 campaign. 

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there will be some sort of tribute to them i think but to sing liverpool's song would be disrespectful to liverpool and to leicester really.

 

there are other ways to mark their passing and their justice and i believe we should be singing YNWA would not be it for me.  

Why is it disrespectful?

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Why is it disrespectful?

i don't know about you but i sure as hell dont know all the words to you'll never walk alone. how is it a tribute if we all butcher it? 

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YNWA is a about celebration and happiness. Overcoming diversity and standing together. Like LCFC.. and The Justice for the 96 campaign. 

 

So is When You're Smiling...

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i don't know about you but i sure as hell dont know all the words to you'll never walk alone. how is it a tribute if we all butcher it? 

Haha ok fair comment.. it is Leicester fans.. Dilly Ding .. Dilly Dong  :)

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Justice for the 96 has been done. Everyone has held tributes etc. At what point does it stop? Will every single event have people trying to couple it to the 96? For me its now time to move on. This should be a celebration for our title win and that alone.

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I just think Saturday is all about Leicester. Not Liverpool, not Spurs or anyone else for that matter. We don't even sing our own anthem sadly, I don't want to sing another teams song at our title party. Its a nice thought though Jock.

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I'll be happy when the obsession with the Hillsborough disaster calms down to a more appropriate level. The link between our title win and that event are less than tenuous, the only reason you're clinging on to that tiny link is to try and show off how wonderfully moral you are.

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I'll be happy when the obsession with the Hillsborough disaster calms down to a more appropriate level. The link between our title win and that event are less than tenuous, the only reason you're clinging on to that tiny link is to try and show off how wonderfully moral you are.

No just think it was a big achievement to take on the establishment. I remember that day very well. Also Everton are visiting.. not just any team.

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Not a chance, not every fcuking thing in the World is about Liverpool and the 96.

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no, not a great idea. however...

I'll be happy when the obsession with the Hillsborough disaster calms down to a more appropriate level. The link between our title win and that event are less than tenuous, the only reason you're clinging on to that tiny link is to try and show off how wonderfully moral you are.

what is a "more appropriate level"?

this should be front page news for ever. we're talking about the police being responsible for killing 96 people and then between themselves and the government, from top to bottom, trying not only to cover the fact they were responsible but to blame the helpless and the dead.

i can't believe people still don't understand the absolute magnitude of what happened and how the fight to take on those who are at fault is unbelievable. 27 years. a lot longer than I've even been on the planet, the actual people in charge of our country have blamed and smeared dead people and their families, just because they were football fans from the north so they knew they could get away with it.

but yeah let's hope it all dies down a bit and people forget it ever even happened. wasn't that big a deal I guess.

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I'll be happy when the obsession with the Hillsborough disaster calms down to a more appropriate level. The link between our title win and that event are less than tenuous, the only reason you're clinging on to that tiny link is to try and show off how wonderfully moral you are.

 

Not a chance, not every fcuking thing in the World is about Liverpool and the 96.

 

Jesus ****. Even us winning the God damn premier league has to be related to Hillsborough.

 

This, this, this. I need not explain any further, the 3 above have covered it.

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no, not a great idea. however...

what is a "more appropriate level"?

this should be front page news for ever. we're talking about the police being responsible for killing 96 people and then between themselves and the government, from top to bottom, trying not only to cover the fact they were responsible but to blame the helpless and the dead.

i can't believe people still don't understand the absolute magnitude of what happened and how the fight to take on those who are at fault is unbelievable. 27 years. a lot longer than I've even been on the planet, the actual people in charge of our country have blamed and smeared dead people and their families, just because they were football fans from the north so they knew they could get away with it.

but yeah let's hope it all dies down a bit and people forget it ever even happened. wasn't that big a deal I guess.

 

When people think plugging this at a Leicester City title win is appropriate I feel things have gone too far. Commemorating the Hillsborough disaster wouldn't even be appropriate at a Liverpool title win.

 

Other things I could mention: The fact we don't just get coverage of this around the date itself, we get it at other parts of the year too. The fact that Liverpool FC seem to take this more seriously than Remembrance day. The undeserved moral credit given to Margaret Aspinall in the Safe Standing debate. This last one might be me being picky but I also dislike the fact that the word 'Hillsborough' is no longer the name of a football ground (and a rather good one too IMO) in many people's minds, it's a byword for tragedy. You just know that if Sheffield Wednesday v Liverpool is a PL fixture next season the Liverpool fans will insist on co-opting it and make it a sob-fest rather than a football match (which is what it actually is).

 

What would be an appropriate level? I'm not going to claim to know that exactly but I would suggest an annual service by Liverpool FC, a five minute piece on said service from BBC news and a mention on MOTD. Essentially, an annual reminder of what happened and why it matters.

Guest MattP
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no, not a great idea. however...

what is a "more appropriate level"?

this should be front page news for ever. we're talking about the police being responsible for killing 96 people and then between themselves and the government, from top to bottom, trying not only to cover the fact they were responsible but to blame the helpless and the dead.

i can't believe people still don't understand the absolute magnitude of what happened and how the fight to take on those who are at fault is unbelievable. 27 years. a lot longer than I've even been on the planet, the actual people in charge of our country have blamed and smeared dead people and their families, just because they were football fans from the north so they knew they could get away with it.

but yeah let's hope it all dies down a bit and people forget it ever even happened. wasn't that big a deal I guess.

 

If you think this should be front page news forever god knows what you are going to think when the findings of the Chilcott inquiry come out.

 

That was about 250,000 dead based on a pack of lies.

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