foxes21 Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 Everyone seems to have a problem with Matty James, give the lad a chance for fuch sake. In the U23 games, reports have said he's looked match fit and the injury yesterday is just a rumour. Even if he did get injured yesterday it must have been minor because he walked straight off the pitch with no problems, so he should be available for the cup match vs Chelsea. It might be dissapointing we didn't sign another CM, but heres the reality. Drinkwater/Amartey/Mendy will play the big games. So how many CM's from teams expected to finish in the bottom half of the league, would you take over a fully fit Matty James & the reliable Andy King? Because those are the teams we'll be rotating against & the games King/James will most likely feature in. These are the CM's from potential bottom half teams, that played in the last PL game: Bournemouth - Arter, Surman, Gosling Burnley - Defour, Marney Crystal Palace - Cabaye, McArthur Hull City - Huddleston, Clucas, Meyler Sunderland - Rodwell, Gooch Stoke - Imbula, Joe Allen, Swansea - Cork, Fer Middlesborough - Forshaw, Clayton Watford - Capoue, Behrami West Brom - Darren Fletcher, Yacob Out of that list, I'd literally only take 5 or 6 players over a fully fit Matty James/Andy King... Cabaye, Joe Allen, Leroy Fer, Capoue, possibly Clucas & Imbula. Christ looking at that list there is not much talent, just a bunch of average players. To conclude, Andy King & Matty James are 4th/5th choice CM's. They will get game time in the cup & vs bottom half teams, so get behind them and support our boys.
Mezeker Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 If there is a meme of Andy King killing European giants with the caption: "Andy King giant slayer" feel free to post it here.
foxes21 Posted 31 August 2016 Author Posted 31 August 2016 1 minute ago, FireFox said: Would rather play Zieler in CM than James. Stop bashing him. We need to get behind the lad, not on his back. Because he's going to be getting minutes this season whether you like it or not.
Larry_LCFC Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 We shouldn't be having to settle with James and King in the clubs biggest season imo. Both good players who I'm sure will play a part, but James is abit of a gamble at this level and King is not the quality that we should be taking into the CL. We have failed massively in the transfer market in the midfield which is incredibly frustrating.
Guest Sharpe's Fox Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 7 minutes ago, FireFox said: Would rather play Zieler in CM than James. **** me you are a disaster, son.
PAULCFC Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 James is as good as drinky imho IF he get's over the injury.When Drinky got injured in the championship he more than stepped into his boots.I still think if Jame's gets over the injury he could be a starter in the midfield.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 14 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said: We shouldn't be having to settle with James and King in the clubs biggest season imo. Both good players who I'm sure will play a part, but James is abit of a gamble at this level and King is not the quality that we should be taking into the CL. We have failed massively in the transfer market in the midfield which is incredibly frustrating. We're not 'settling' for them ffs. We've got a number of options that are ahead of them in the pecking order. If we were going into CL games and James and Kingy were starting then you might have a leg to stand on. It's like saying you need a new car when you're driving around in a 911, and you've got 3 brand new Ferraris sat on the drive
foxes21 Posted 31 August 2016 Author Posted 31 August 2016 People are acting like we are going to roll up to Porto & Man City, with Matty James & Andy King in central midfield. Drinkwater/Amartey/Mendy will rotate for those big games, we'll only be seeing King/James in the league cup & against lower opposition in the Prem. Again how many players in the original post would you take over King/James? Literally only a handful. We'll be fine
Kitchandro Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 There's no doubt they can fill in on their day but the concern is we're relying on Amartey or Mendy to fill the Kante role full time. One of them is a utility player (admittedly he looked good against Swansea) and I'm not convinced Mendy is that Kante sort of player. If they're not up to it we're struggling because King does not bring enough to start regularly and James is a question mark even if he is fit.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 Just now, foxes21 said: People are acting like we are going to roll up to Porto & Man City, with Matty James & Andy King in central midfield. Drinkwater/Amartey/Mendy will rotate for those big games, we'll only be seeing King/James in the league cup & against lower opposition in the Prem. Again how many players in the original post would you take over King/James? Literally only a handful. We'll be fine We went about 2 seasons with just King and Wellens in midfield, we've now got 5 good options to rotate and people are panicking.
foxes21 Posted 31 August 2016 Author Posted 31 August 2016 1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: We went about 2 seasons with just King and Wellens in midfield, we've now got 5 good options to rotate and people are panicking. It's funny because both Matty James & Andy King would improve alot of premier league midfields. Some of those midfields are dire. Darren Fletcher & Yacob? Rodwell & Gooch? Defour & Marney? McArthur? Dan Gosling? Jesus.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 So pleased someone has sais this. Have to realise we're not Man City and won't have 30 mill players in every position! James and King are more than good enough and in James case, he'll only get better with experience
psychonaut Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 17 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: There's no doubt they can fill in on their day but the concern is we're relying on Amartey or Mendy to fill the Kante role full time. One of them is a utility player (admittedly he looked good against Swansea) and I'm not convinced Mendy is that Kante sort of player. If they're not up to it we're struggling because King does not bring enough to start regularly and James is a question mark even if he is fit. He definitely isnt. Regardless of Kante being a complete one off Mendy is not in his mould. Based on his past stats alone he sways further towards Drinkwater. More of a pass master sitting back and keeping play ticking over. His previous team must've been a possession heavy side for him to make the copius amounts of passes that he did last season. Nothing of what I've seen would indicate he's a similar (bar his looks) either.
sdb Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 James has been great for us. Not sure he'll easily get back into the team now given what's happened with us and him over the last 15 months but amazed he's getting any criticism (i've not seen any).
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 I love Matty James and think he'll carve out a very steady career for himself at lower half prem / top half champ level if he can stay injury free but this thread reeks of straw clutching.
Swarles Barkley Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 Matty James was a regular starter for us before he got injured. I still remember the panic on this forum after the Southampton game that we were fvcked because we would have to play drinky there! Give the guy some sort of opportunity to come back ffs
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 8 minutes ago, Swarles Barkley said: Matty James was a regular starter for us before he got injured. I still remember the panic on this forum after the Southampton game that we were fvcked because we would have to play drinky there! Give the guy some sort of opportunity to come back ffs A regular starter for a team that couldn't buy a win. Like I said, I love him, very handy player but our rise has been unprecedented. We aren't anywhere near the level we were at the last time he played a competitive game for us. It's very likely he'll not be able to adapt to the level we're at any time soon - sorry if that doesn't fit in with your way of thinking. Loan would've done him (and us) good.
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 I think James & King are good enough for us personally. They might not be first teamers but they reliable players who know the club and staff, they know how our system works and what makes us tick. Having players like that is important. I think obviously James will be ready when match fit. I'd like to see King in the CAM role at some stage, whether it be PL or Europe. He's one of the best centre midfield finishers we've got IMO and in a further forward position like that would suit him I reckon, he's played there before I believe and done very well. I think he can certainly do a job in a midfield two in which he is very reliable at, but I just think CAM could suit him even more.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 AHAHA edited me own post in a quote - nice
themightyfin Posted 31 August 2016 Posted 31 August 2016 Simple fact here how many people EVER come back the same player after being out injured for 18 months? He's still picking up niggles now. As much as I like him I doubt we will ever see him back the same player he was before. I fear he will drop down the leagues hope I'm proved wrong but he clearly is not someone we can rely on.
STUHILL Posted 1 September 2016 Posted 1 September 2016 I agree that James could still do a job for us. I just think we have higher aspirations now and we really missed a chance to sign a top, proven european CM with the pull of being champions and being in the champions league. Will we ever be in such a powerful position to sign these top players again?! Feels like a missed opportunity to me. Now we are all hoping that players like King and James can cover injuries or supsensions to the starters. Forgive me for wanting more than that available to us in our squad. We have just won the league and need to keep our aspirations high and that means trying to attact the very best here, such as Silva who is a European Cup winner. My hope is now, that Drinky stays fit and Mendy turns out to be another gem from Walsh. I just did some reading up on him and we have all probably forgotten how good he could really be for us. Talks of him being similar to Drinky but he is still classed as a defensive midfielder and hopefully they should work well together, with Amartey to come on if needed and King we know can do a job in small doses. James is an unknown for now but hopefully he comes back better before, as we are no longer a team fighting relegation, we are a champions league team man!
dylanlegend Posted 1 September 2016 Posted 1 September 2016 Matty James is quality and given a decent run of games could emulate Drinky. Drinky / James in the centre of the park would be non too shabby, remember they have played together since they were young and many Man U / LCFC fans of a few years ago thought James was actually the better midfielder out of the two
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 1 September 2016 Posted 1 September 2016 We can't have it both ways: Worrying about unhappy players not getting playing time, and complaining that the fourth and fifth choice midfielders aren't good enough. The owners seem to value loyalty, as much as possible in football. They just signed King to a new deal, and I fully expect him to end his career at the club. The club needs a few happy squad players who can fill in when necessary, but won't cause problems if they don't start. King fits that description, and hopefully so will James.
Argarath Posted 1 September 2016 Posted 1 September 2016 8 hours ago, FireFox said: Would rather play Zieler in CM than James. And Schmeichel as striker? I tried it on FM, trust me it did not work
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