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I can understand why Claudio wanted to add another defender against the two massive Copenhagen strikers last night, and I've always been a massive fan of 3-5-2 since MON's days... 

 

But why last night's combo? Surely Fuchs is perfect as a LWB and Albrighton could do a great job as a Guppy-esque RWB. With Hernandez-Huth-Morgan across the back.

 

Leaving Drinky and Amartey (King) and Riyad in the centre with Vardy and Musa(Okazaki) as the two?

 

Or is that just me?

Posted
5 minutes ago, Phube said:

I can understand why Claudio wanted to add another defender against the two massive Copenhagen strikers last night, and I've always been a massive fan of 3-5-2 since MON's days... 

 

But why last night's combo? Surely Fuchs is perfect as a LWB and Albrighton could do a great job as a Guppy-esque RWB. With Hernandez-Huth-Morgan across the back.

 

Leaving Drinky and Amartey (King) and Riyad in the centre with Vardy and Musa(Okazaki) as the two?

 

Or is that just me?

 

 

Not trying to be a boblet but wasnt Guppy a LWB not a RWB?

Posted
5 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

 

Not trying to be a boblet but wasnt Guppy a LWB not a RWB?

 

I know!!!! I mean an awesome crossing winger cum wing back, not defensive wing back. 

Posted

Could play a nice 343

 

schmeichel

Hernandez Morgan Huth

Albrighton Drinky King Fuchs

Mahrez Slimani Gray

 

we'd have two wing backs who could put crosses into Slimani all day long and it would give Mahrez and Gray more freedom and less defensive responsibility 

Posted

Have to admit that both me and my son didn't even notice we were playing 3 at the back. Granted behind the goal doesn't give away the best view but I think we made a dogs dinner of it. Hernandez was surely too deep and Fuchs dragged too far wide? the whole thing was cock eyed to the extent that it looked like a back four but the midfield were playing as if it were a three. No wonder we were terrible until we reverted to 4-4-2 ish shape.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Phube said:

 

I know!!!! I mean an awesome crossing winger cum wing back, not defensive wing back. 

Oh ok!

Posted
16 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Have to admit that both me and my son didn't even notice we were playing 3 at the back. Granted behind the goal doesn't give away the best view but I think we made a dogs dinner of it. Hernandez was surely too deep and Fuchs dragged too far wide? the whole thing was cock eyed to the extent that it looked like a back four but the midfield were playing as if it were a three. No wonder we were terrible until we reverted to 4-4-2 ish shape.

i watched it on tele and had no idea we were playing 3 at the back until i read this about half an hour ago. who were the 3? what on earth was our formation? 

Posted
2 minutes ago, ScouseFox said:

i watched it on tele and had no idea we were playing 3 at the back until i read this about half an hour ago. who were the 3? what on earth was our formation? 

 

I think:

 

Morgan - Huth - Fuchs

 

Hernadez - Drinky - Amartey - Schlupp

 

Mahrez

 

Vardy - Musa

Posted
Just now, Phube said:

 

I think:

 

Morgan - Huth - Fuchs

 

Hernadez - Drinky - Amartey - Schlupp

 

Mahrez

 

Vardy - Musa

haha mad. no wonder we looked so shit. 

Posted

We can speculate on formations and team selection as much as we like but CR went for the point and got it. We shouldnt complain either as he wanted a clean sheet and he has managed a 4th one on the bounce in the CL. Also looking at some Copenhagen stats only Real Madrid had stopped them from scoring at home in 11 Champions League games which included them playing sides like Juventus, Galatasaray and Bayer Leverkusen.

 

The reality is the players who were playing in position hardly excelled never mind the subtle formation changes yesterday. I doubt we will need to use a 352 anytime soon but its another string to CRs ever widening bow. 

 

He has now managed to blood new players, drop certain players, tried to install confidence by giving people a chance like good old Jeff and Amartey and believes in picking Hernandez at right back for Europe despite Simpsons form.

 

On a personal note, I hope we go 451 or 433 before we revert to a 352.

Posted
13 minutes ago, ScouseFox said:

i watched it on tele and had no idea we were playing 3 at the back until i read this about half an hour ago. who were the 3? what on earth was our formation? 

I was listening on LCFC Radio, while following on their twitter feed...they weren't even sure what the formation was.

Guest CityFan 06
Posted

3-5-2 is certainly an option that could be looked at. It's proven to of worked with this group of players (more or less) in the Great Escape 2014/15. Albrighton flourished on that right side which a position I feel he should play in more, using his natural foot. I'd be struggling to decide between Simpson or Hernandez in a proposed back three though. 

 

Schmeichel

Simpson Morgan Huth

Albrighton Drinkwater King Fuchs

Okazaki / Mahrez

Vardy Musa

Posted

Thought the team selection was odd straight away, presumed it was 

 

 

              Kasper 

Hernandez Morgan Huth Fuchs

Mahrez Drinkwater Amartey Schlupp

          Vardy Musa

 

didnt notice it being 3 at the back at any point. 

Quite strange. 

Got the point we came for though so that's all that matters. 

 

Posted

Mahrez was on the right and musa on the left so it was 3-4-3

 

this is probably where it goes wrong as in addition to Hernandez being too deep, the three up top had mahrez and musa trying to be slightly withdrawn into the holes between the wing backs and the middle two. It was a cock up imo. 

 

at least play 3-5-2 which many of the players had got used to 18 months ago. 3-4-3 doesn't solve much as it still leaves you 2 v 3 in the central midfield area. 

Posted

It looked like it was supposed to be 343:

 

           Morgan - Huth - Fuchs

Hernandez - Amartey - Drinky - Schlupp

          Mahrez - Vardy - Musa

 

But it was so disorganized, more like this:

 

                 Morgan - Huth

                                             Fuchs

Hernandez

            Amartey - Drinky

                                Schlupp - Musa

       Mahrez

                    Vardy

 

Morgan, Hernandez, Amartey, and even Mahrez didn't know who to mark defensively, but got the job done. Schlupp and Musa were lost, Fuchs a rock though.

 

If Claudio does want to try 3 at the back, I don't know why he doesn't play Albrighton and Fuchs as the wingbacks, Hernandez as the right side CB. That's obvious to all of us, but for some reason, twice now, he has tried Hernandez as the wingback and Fuchs as the left side CB. Maybe he should try to move Amartey back? Like this:

 

       Amartey - Morgan - Huth

Hernandez - Drinky - King - Fuchs

              Whatever front 3

Posted

Ultimately we got the draw we wanted but I do feel we approached the game in the wrong way. We defended reasonably but they were better I felt. I'd have kept up with 4-4-2 or at least have  changed the personnel in the 3-5-2. The lack of subs was an odd one too. Oh well, it was good enough

Posted

Was a 4-4-2 for me, at no point did it come across as we were playing 3 at the back. Only change I noticed was Musa going left wing, Schlupp to the right and Mahrez in 'the hole'

Posted
7 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Was a 4-4-2 for me, at no point did it come across as we were playing 3 at the back. Only change I noticed was Musa going left wing, Schlupp to the right and Mahrez in 'the hole'

 

5 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

What the **** were you lot watching?

 

It was the same 4-4-2 we've been playing for ****ing ages

 

You mean apart from Claudio, Kasper and Wes all stating they were playing 3 at the back?

Posted
8 minutes ago, Phube said:

 

 

You mean apart from Claudio, Kasper and Wes all stating they were playing 3 at the back?

Didn't look like it. Especially not the 3 at the back like we played when we stayed up. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Didn't look like it. Especially not the 3 at the back like we played when we stayed up. 

Exactly.

But we were trying to play it. It was just incredibly disorganized and the personal/positional (Hernandez RWB, Fuchs LCB) choices were odd.

Posted
24 minutes ago, FireFox said:

Exactly.

But we were trying to play it. It was just incredibly disorganized and the personal/positional (Hernandez RWB, Fuchs LCB) choices were odd.

Especially how much Fuchs was getting foreward too, Mahrez was more or less right back sometimes last night. Wasn't a 3-5-2 for me but if they've said it was it was.. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Especially how much Fuchs was getting foreward too, Mahrez was more or less right back sometimes last night. Wasn't a 3-5-2 for me but if they've said it was it was.. 

 

To be fair, all they said was "3 at the back", what the rest were supposed to be doing was anyone's guess!?

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