Captain... Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 Regarding the CL we should be looking at an experienced player on a short term deal, nobody who wants to play CL long term will sign for us but somebody coming to the end of their career not currently playing in CL, think of the effect Cambiasso had. I don't know many players that fit the bill, and the main issue would be their legs/fitness, but one name that springs to mind is Schweinstiger, play him in a midfield 3 with Drinky and Amartey to do the running.
MrSpaM Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 2 minutes ago, Captain... said: Regarding the CL we should be looking at an experienced player on a short term deal, nobody who wants to play CL long term will sign for us but somebody coming to the end of their career not currently playing in CL, think of the effect Cambiasso had. I don't know many players that fit the bill, and the main issue would be their legs/fitness, but one name that springs to mind is Schweinstiger, play him in a midfield 3 with Drinky and Amartey to do the running. I've often thought he'd be a decent shout if man u would let him go out on loan
Babylon Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 15 hours ago, AmarteyAndChill said: I'm sorry but if we are really struggling in the league then we won't get any of our targets anyway. Money talks.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 1 hour ago, Babylon said: Money talks. Why do you all assume, that the owner will be inclined to shell out another 40-50m in January? I mean, the more than 60m he already spent this year don't look, as matters stand now, like a good investment.
Captain... Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 23 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Why do you all assume, that the owner will be inclined to shell out another 40-50m in January? I mean, the more than 60m he already spent this year don't look, as matters stand now, like a good investment. It's not the owners "shelling out" the money it is not from them it is from the huge amount of money we have been earning in the last few seasons: From staying up in our first season (£68.7m), winning the league last year (£93m), qualifying for the last 16 of the CL (approx £50m) and (even if we get relegated) being in the Premier League this season (£66m minimum). Not to mention the huge increase in revenue on ticket sales, merch sales, sponsorship and everything else obviously offset by the increase in wages, but as a club we are loaded and we can easily spend another £50-£60 million this season. Whether we should or not is a different matter.
Ted Maul Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 A one-off CL tie and bottom half club isn't going to entice world class players. Follow the Sevilla, Dortmund etc. model and sign the best young talent we can get our hands on.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 Midfield and defence 2/3 quality players please
Wymsey Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 Sell Wasyl and either Ulloa or Schlupp, and sign someone who is both experienced in European competitions and consistent in their play. Preferably a CM of course.
Nick Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 Go all out for Capoue from Watford and Schneiderlin from Man U and Keane as well - snag is, the cheapest of that bunch would be Schneiderlin - which is actually ridiculous in all fairness! Getting through the group is apparently worth around 60 million quid and I doubt we'd get the above that...... I'm still intrigued by Ardien Silva too - who undoubtedly wants to come but has recently had knee surgery - is he back playing yet?
AmarteyAndChill Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 20 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: Go all out for Capoue from Watford and Schneiderlin from Man U and Keane as well - snag is, the cheapest of that bunch would be Schneiderlin - which is actually ridiculous in all fairness! Getting through the group is apparently worth around 60 million quid and I doubt we'd get the above that...... I'm still intrigued by Ardien Silva too - who undoubtedly wants to come but has recently had knee surgery - is he back playing yet? He scored against Real Madrid this week.
Buzzell Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 3 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: He scored against Real Madrid this week. GEEEERRRIIIIMMMMIIINNNNN!
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 38 minutes ago, Captain... said: It's not the owners "shelling out" the money it is not from them it is from the huge amount of money we have been earning in the last few seasons: From staying up in our first season (£68.7m), winning the league last year (£93m), qualifying for the last 16 of the CL (approx £50m) and (even if we get relegated) being in the Premier League this season (£66m minimum). Not to mention the huge increase in revenue on ticket sales, merch sales, sponsorship and everything else obviously offset by the increase in wages, but as a club we are loaded and we can easily spend another £50-£60 million this season. Whether we should or not is a different matter. Your numbers may be true, but they don't change the fact, that Mr Srivaddhanaprabha is the owner and chairman of LCFC. In the end, it will be his opinion, that counts. Not yours and not mine. What we want is irrelevant. He is the boss.
Babylon Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 1 hour ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Why do you all assume, that the owner will be inclined to shell out another 40-50m in January? I mean, the more than 60m he already spent this year don't look, as matters stand now, like a good investment. Who said anything about £40-50?... we bid for Silva in the summer so we were clearly happy to pay what £25m then. Since then we've also got a huge number of points and progressed to the last 16 of the champions league. That's €5.5m for the last 16 and €6.5m so far from the points gained... plus we'll get a sizeable amount from the market share distribution of €20m + on top of the €12m we knew we'd be getting. We could happily spend another £40m before player sales if we wanted, it's all about whether they want to. As for being a good investment... it's a good investment if it keeps you up.
jim5000 Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 I have a strange feeling we will lose a couple during the window (Shlupp and Ulljoa), but first match in Feb will feature Morgan and Huth at CB and Drinkwater Amarty/King in midfield.....
Babylon Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 4 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Your numbers may be true, but they don't change the fact, that Mr Srivaddhanaprabha is the owner and chairman of LCFC. In the end, it will be his opinion, that counts. Not yours and not mine. What we want is irrelevant. He is the boss. And if he wants to spend it... then the money will talk.
Captain... Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 48 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Your numbers may be true, but they don't change the fact, that Mr Srivaddhanaprabha is the owner and chairman of LCFC. In the end, it will be his opinion, that counts. Not yours and not mine. What we want is irrelevant. He is the boss. But it is not his money, it is the club's money and it sits in the club's accounts to be spent as determined by the board and the footballing side of things. As owner he may be able to veto a certain move on grounds of value, but he is very unlikely to overrule the board and DOF on footballing matters. The board will set a budget, the manager will identify targets and the DOF will take ages finalising any deals. The owner will sit back in his chopper and parade the Premier league trophy around and probably have very little input.
dynamark Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 I think you will find there is only one signature on the cheques.Get real please .
HighPeakFox Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 Sort the midfield out and the defence will largely look after itself.
norwichfox Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 8 hours ago, sylofox said: Not a route we should ever consider. I'd take it every time for each loss we've taken this season
Terraloon Posted 24 November 2016 Posted 24 November 2016 Having the cash to buy players is only part of the equation. The transfer fees demanded for players to a PL club playing in the CL is inflated as of course are the players wage demands but it's not the year one affordability that needs to be considered iits how the numbers stack up in year two et seq. For instance if you pay say £30 million for a player on a 5 year contract that fee is reflected in the accounts at £6 million a year. Already in the current financial year player amortisation has jumped by several million then factor in the huge pay rises rightly awarded to the likes of Vardy and then consider that there is a PL cap on wage increases you then may well not be able to comply with FFP in a year or two it sort of flags up a warning to the money men at the club. Add to that it's highly unlikely a player of that type will agree to clauses reducing wages in the event of relegation , which agents will see as a possibility, so will want out in such an event for a vastly reduced fee, The time to do real business at a PL club is in the summer the January market is not a good time to deal. I have no doubt that a player or two may well come in but I for one don't expect any big name or big cash deals more likely a player on loan or possibly even a squad player as opposed to a guarentees starter. Huth and Morgan are very much the CD first choice pairing going forward neither will be the subject of a transfer unless the club either subsidises the deal or buys out their contracts. Vardy isn't going anywhere and his wage means he is guaranteed a place . I really don't see much change going forward
49er Posted 24 February 2017 Author Posted 24 February 2017 On 23/11/2016 at 21:18, 49er said: So, we are through to the last sixteen. A pat on the back for the lads, but we all know that much stiffer opposition is on its way. Bearing this in mind, and given that this could be a once in a life opportunity, I'm sure that the club wants to give it a real go. However, if we are being honest the current team may beat the likes of Brugge and Copenhagen but would struggle against better teams such as Leverkusen, Napoli etc. What approach should we take in the January transfer window? Bear in mind, we need to consider bringing players in who are not cup tied and can play in the Champions League. How much will Claudio have to spend? Well, we know that we were keen on Silva for around £25m, so that figure should be the starting point for the transfer kitty. Let's assume that the likes of Schlupp and Ulloa will be on their way - that ought to bring in circa £20m. In view of our progress in the Champions League and the financial benefits arising, I would imagine that our owners may chip in with a further £15-20m. The transfer budget could amount to somewhere in the region of £60-65m. Who do we buy? I think we all agree that a combative, box-to-box midfielder is our priority (unless Mendey is our saviour). We seem to have sufficient forwards/wingers. Do we need to strengthen the defence? Who can we attract? Yes, we are in the Champions League but if we are struggling in the bottom half of the table will we have to lower our expectations? Ah well, didn't quite get it right! Only out by around £60m in terms of the net spend!!
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