Isn't it time Rudkin crawled out from under his stone and offered some support?

[norwichfox]

Director of Football, Director of the Academy, Bottom of u18's bottom of u23, First Team 17th 1 point above relegation zone, it appears that he doesn't give a flying fcuk....why doesn't he man up and take some of the sh1t that's flying around, why isn't he standing up shouting his undying support for this great club Leicester City....in fact why isn't he saying anything at all? Any company I ever worked for the directors were accountable. There have been no interviews statement or anything else. Instead we catch a glimpse of him maybe brown-nosing the owners whilst sitting next to them. A list of his duties would be nice as no one seems to have a handle on what his job really is.

[VLC86]

Nah mate, he needs to crawl further into his hole so we can concrete over it and prevent him from surfacing ever again.

[Matt]

Yep.

 

[Babylon]

I'm not quite sure what you expect him to do?

 

[matty98]

So he gets 0 credit when we win the league and gets our academy to category 1, but gets all the blame when we're doing badly? Foxestalk logic

[sylofox]

9 minutes ago, Babylon said:

I'm not quite sure what you expect him to do?

 

I agree with you. But only for the reason no one knows what his job entails. Who buys the players ie picks them. Who decides what we pay for them and the wage. Whos idea was it to give some players a summer rise and not others.

 

So suppose the first thing before we blame anyone is to know who does what?

 

But I don't think we are the only fans that don't have a fvcking Scooby what the dof does.

[jammie82uk]

I've just read a news article on the BBC about Rangers converting to a Director of Football approach 

 

Thier managing director made an interesting quote

 

 

"We see that sometimes when managers leave a lot of the structure leaves with them," Robertson told Rangers' website.

"That is no use, you put a lot of time a lot of investment and a lot of resource into developing that side of the business and you can't have that changing every time a manager changes.

"The director of football gives you that continuity. They oversee the overall football department, all aspects of it, including the academy, performance and preparation, analysis and everything as well as the first team."

 

[Fox92]

What's he taking responsibility for ?

 

He isn't the manager of the under 21s and he isn't manager of the first team.

 

I don't particularly like him as DOF but I'm also getting fed up of these Rudkin threads.

[norwichfox]

6 minutes ago, matty98 said:

So he gets 0 credit when we win the league and gets our academy to category 1, but gets all the blame when we're doing badly? Foxestalk logic

Don't see any blame being apportioned, it's just a statement of facts and a query as to why he should be clear of all blame when in his position is really as untenable as Ranieri's is

[owenwhite22]

Somebody or something needs to take the hit for our poor recruitment in January. I seriously question our backup in many positions on the park.

[Fox92]

1 minute ago, norwichfox said:

Don't see any blame being apportioned, it's just a statement of facts and a query as to why he should be clear of all blame when in his position is really as untenable as Ranieri's is

People moan about Rudkin all the time.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

12 minutes ago, matty98 said:

So he gets 0 credit when we win the league and gets our academy to category 1, but gets all the blame when we're doing badly? Foxestalk logic

Not sure how you work that out?

 

Hardly a shrinking violet last season + I can assure in line with others he was credited with more of the crisp folding stuff than we could dream for. Ask his estate agent.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

He's not great, the academy needs a massive overhaul imo, but at the end of the day he's not the reason the first XI are putting in fvck all effort this season. 

[norwichfox]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

People moan about Rudkin all the time.

Why?......because no fooker has a clue what he actually does, maybe he's an expert at something? who knows?

[norwichfox]

2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

He's not great, the academy needs a massive overhaul imo, but at the end of the day he's not the reason the first XI are putting in fvck all effort this season. 

But we don't know that do we? they may be protesting over the dumping of the Psychologist for all we know, and Rudkin is the guy (so we are led to believe) that does the hiring and firing.

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

Slightly off topic but why did we end up going for Eduardo Macia as Head of recruitment rather than Paul Mitchell? 

 

Mitchell always seem the guy who would continue to unearth gems as we had seen under Walsh and his experience at Spurs and Southampton suggested that also. Macia, though he may be good seemed more suited to scouting the big name players I.e Torres and Mascherano and the guy you would expect to recommend a punt on a Riyad Mahrez. More suited to philosophy we implemented. 

 

did he reject us or did we just choose to go elsewhere?

[Kitchandro]

13 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

He's not great, the academy needs a massive overhaul imo, but at the end of the day he's not the reason the first XI are putting in fvck all effort this season. 

He's a Director of Football, he's responsible for securing transfer deals.

 

I'm not interested in anyone saying anything tbh, I just want them to sort it out, or get sacked. Talk is cheap. I don't believe a word they say anyway.

[sphericalfox]

1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Slightly off topic but why did we end up going for Eduardo Macia as Head of recruitment rather than Paul Mitchell? 

 

Mitchell always seem the guy who would continue to unearth gems as we had seen under Walsh and his experience at Spurs and Southampton suggested that also. Macia, though he may be good seemed more suited to scouting the big name players I.e Torres and Mascherano and the guy you would expect to recommend a punt on a Riyad Mahrez. More suited to philosophy we implemented. 

 

did he reject us or did we just choose to go elsewhere?

Mitchell was caught up, I believe, in a post release contract clause of some type, so we went elsewhere. I could be wrong 

[matty98]

25 minutes ago, norwichfox said:

Don't see any blame being apportioned, it's just a statement of facts and a query as to why he should be clear of all blame when in his position is really as untenable as Ranieri's is

He should be cleared of the blame, innocent until proven guilty and all that. Until we know what he does what's the point of even mentioning him in association with how the teams are currently doing?

[Kitchandro]

6 minutes ago, matty98 said:

He should be cleared of the blame, innocent until proven guilty and all that. Until we know what he does what's the point of even mentioning him in association with how the teams are currently doing?

Firstly, this isn't a court of law. We don't have to abide by 'innocent until proven guilty'. Because in real life that is biased towards the accused.

 

We have a right to speculate who's to blame for this mess (I'd suggest a long list of people have to take responsibility) - since when can fans prove (as in a court of law) what somebody does at a club anyway?

 

He is the Director of Football. DOFs are part of the recruitment side of the club; amongst their responsibilities is completing transfer deals. With our transfer policy and ability to get the players we wanted coming in for a lot of criticism, it is only natural that the Director of Football is questioned, or blamed if you will.

[norwichfox]

12 minutes ago, matty98 said:

He should be cleared of the blame, innocent until proven guilty and all that. Until we know what he does what's the point of even mentioning him in association with how the teams are currently doing?

We DO know that he's a director of football at the 3 most senior levels and as a director should be accountable for the p155 poor position all teams are in.

 

edit, sorry Kitchandro I was writing this whilst your post was posted, more or less saying the same

[Babylon]

He's answerable to the CEO and the owners, not to us as fans. You can't expect them to give a running commentary on who does what and how well they are doing it. If he's not doing the job well in the owners eyes he will get moved on. Like Neville did before and like the other bloke I can't even remember did.

 

If he's overseeing the football side and it's failing then he'll get put under pressure... but you'd imagine winning the league gives him some credit from the owners like it seems Ranieri has.

[Babylon]

3 minutes ago, norwichfox said:

We DO know that he's a director of football at the 3 most senior levels and as a director should be accountable for the p155 poor position all teams are in.

It can take decades to know if the youth football is working or not. Having under 23's failing now can go as far back as when that group were signed up, potentially 10-13 years ago.

[norwichfox]

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

It can take decades to know if the youth football is working or not. Having under 23's failing now can go as far back as when that group were signed up, potentially 10-13 years ago.

Don't forget Rudkin's been involved with the youth team since 2003, it's still his puppy.....

[Babylon]

Just now, norwichfox said:

Don't forget Rudkin's been involved with the youth team since 2003, it's still his puppy.....

Appreciate that, but obviously we don't know the full story from back then in terms of investment etc. We were pretty strapped for cash for a long time with the stadium around our neck. We've gone for Cat 1 status and the owners will now expect a better rate of development with that investment, but like I say that can take time.