polarbear Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Well said mate, the man is a complete terrorist to this club. well said what? id actually be inclined to agree if there was some commentary or infomation about what he has or hasnt supposedly done.
Ric Flair Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 3 minutes ago, polarbear said: well said what? id actually be inclined to agree if there was some commentary or infomation about what he has or hasnt supposedly done. Whispers
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 Rudkin's one of those cases where there are so many rumours and unconfirmed stories surrounding him that it can't be a coincidence you have got to believe some of them are true. People used to defend Harry Redknapp back in the day and say he wasn't corrupt or a crook and it was just an unfair stereotype and look how that turned out.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 That said it would be nice if Ric Flair or Abrasive Fox actually gave us some concrete info
Buzzell Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 1 hour ago, Abrasive fox said: Some of the responses on here are amazing. What's he done wrong? It's not his fault If only you lot knew. Come on then. Let's hear what you've got to say because you obviously know something a lot of us don't.
Ric Flair Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 3 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: That said it would be nice if Ric Flair or Abrasive Fox actually gave us some concrete info Tried to get Nigel Pearson the sack after the James McArthur incident (allegedly) Alienated anyone in the Academy (staff) that tried to be conventional and dynamic, hence the shocking state it is in (allegedly) Makes bids for players and then seldom follows up the interest unsettling players and clubs (allegedly)
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 What are we meant to be moaning about, with Rudkin? Signings? Under 23's? Or owt else?
norwichfox Posted 15 February 2017 Author Posted 15 February 2017 6 minutes ago, Col city fan said: What are we meant to be moaning about, with Rudkin? Signings? Under 23's? Or owt else? Dunno, no fooker knows what he actually does, don't seem to be vociferous with any aspect of "directing" or even supporting the club.
Danizen Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 45 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: Rudkin's one of those cases where there are so many rumours and unconfirmed stories surrounding him that it can't be a coincidence you have got to believe some of them are true. People used to defend Harry Redknapp back in the day and say he wasn't corrupt or a crook and it was just an unfair stereotype and look how that turned out. It doesn't help that he looks like a bit of a cvnt, though.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 4 minutes ago, Danizen said: It doesn't help that he looks like a bit of a cvnt, though. Agreed he looks half maths teacher half pedophile
norwichfox Posted 15 February 2017 Author Posted 15 February 2017 6 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: Agreed he looks half maths teacher half pedophile Harsh even for FT
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 24 minutes ago, norwichfox said: Harsh even for FT Truth hurts...
filbertway Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 @Manwell Pablo what is his role in the club? I don't care either way about Kanté leaving to be honest, I expected him to be gone in the summer as he's the only player I've ever seen be one of our best players in every game he played for us. I was under the impression that Rudkin was accountable for recruiting/selling/contracts?
Thracian Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 Rudkin clearly looked pretty cosy with our top brass when pictured at the Swansea match and on other occasions. Creep-like things that Ric Flair's referred to would surely be beneath anyone working within a "team" enterprise, at least I'd hope so, but I've heard nothing personally, so it's all just hearsay as far as I'm concerned. Rudkin might be responsible for the paperwork of signings but the unanswered question is "how deep is his involvement in scouting/monitoring/choosing our recruits (at every level) and does he hold the purse strings up to a certain monetary level or does he constantly have to refer to others? Only if we knew could we honestly debate his value to the club with any justification. Regarding his work with the Academy he seemed to be as much an administrator as a football man but even that was just my impression. The Academy certainly had its successes, individually and collectively, at home and abroad. Their football was even worth watching at times. But there were a lot of failures too and the Academy has never had the throughput of players to first team level that it should have had - at least in my view. Again, that might not be Rudkin's fault. Or the fault of the coaches. If the first team manager doesn't want to pick promising players, he doesn't have to. That might not even be for ability reasons. Academy players aren't assets like senior internationals on big salaries. It's arguably easier and safer to leave kids out than one of our prime signings. Especially if we'd be paying the dropped "star" £30,000-£120,000 a week to sit on a bench. Furthermore, if it happened often, the star's value would shrink and, if the manager or anyone else were financially benefitting from the coming and going or signings, there'd be no mileage in keeping expensive, or proven value players out of the team and the limelight just on the off chance they'd pay dividends. Occasionally there are exceptions - Southampton make an art form of proving it. But generally even when a young player does break through, he's sold on for a profit and possibly further add-ons if his value increases. And that's nothing like as lucrative as picking up a Kante or Mahrez ... ready made players just waiting to blossom on the Premiership stage. . So really, it's hard to say if Rudkin's value for money or not. He's not the manager and he's not one of our owners. "What could he be doing well?," is the question I keep asking and not finding an answer to this season. But if someone knows I'd be happy to listen.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 1 hour ago, filbertway said: @Manwell Pablo what is his role in the club? I don't care either way about Kanté leaving to be honest, I expected him to be gone in the summer as he's the only player I've ever seen be one of our best players in every game he played for us. I was under the impression that Rudkin was accountable for recruiting/selling/contracts? Correct. To an extent, along with others. Do you think Claudio rainier Has been handed a team by Rudkin that should be 92nd in the English league form table and deep in a relegation battle? Because I don't. in fact I don't think he's handed him the team nor do I think that's where it should be sitting correctly managed.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 Woah what's this alleged rumour about Rudking trying to get Pearson sacked after the Mccarthur incident? At at the end of the day, Rudkin is an employee. The final decision is a multi billionaire and his son. If they're easily influence, that's where the fault lies and if he is doing what he has been alleged to have done, it's no different to any other high profile exec the country over who wants to get a leg up.
Guest Lako42 Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 6 hours ago, norwichfox said: Director of Football, Director of the Academy, Bottom of u18's bottom of u23, First Team 17th 1 point above relegation zone, it appears that he doesn't give a flying fcuk....why doesn't he man up and take some of the sh1t that's flying around, why isn't he standing up shouting his undying support for this great club Leicester City....in fact why isn't he saying anything at all? Any company I ever worked for the directors were accountable. There have been no interviews statement or anything else. Instead we catch a glimpse of him maybe brown-nosing the owners whilst sitting next to them. A list of his duties would be nice as no one seems to have a handle on what his job really is. I don't think I have ever heard a dof come out and make statements like this, I find the obsession with him very strange. People process to know nothing of his remit and yet in the same breath feel they know enough to question his performance in regard to said remit. The club should release a list of every employee and their detailed list of responsibilities.......
Thracian Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Woah what's this alleged rumour about Rudking trying to get Pearson sacked after the Mccarthur incident? At at the end of the day, Rudkin is an employee. The final decision is a multi billionaire and his son. If they're easily influence, that's where the fault lies and if he is doing what he has been alleged to have done, it's no different to any other high profile exec the country over who wants to get a leg up. Wouldn't make it any more right though. Or the person concerned any more popular. And if there were any truth in it (and I've really no idea about that), the question might then be asked as to whether our latest signings have found it harder to fit into the group than previous signings over the last three or four years?
filbertway Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 16 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Correct. To an extent, along with others. Do you think Claudio rainier Has been handed a team by Rudkin that should be 92nd in the English league form table and deep in a relegation battle? Because I don't. in fact I don't think he's handed him the team nor do I think that's where it should be sitting correctly managed. I'd expect my manager to have a massive say in the players he wants, any other system is backwards and is going to cause issues unless you can throw money at it and sign the very best of the best. Either our scouting system is awful now, Ranieri is picking poor players or having no say, or we're not getting deals done and over the line. As far as I'm concerned everybody from Ranieri up to, not including, the owners can do one as they're all culpible for our current position. Imagine going into the season as the current champions of England with one recognised right back and two centre backs who looked like rugby players last season. The one centre back we signed played one game in his position, a couple at right back and then was sold after 5 months. To their credit though, Ndidi and Gray have been fantastic signings, but they've been few and far between since Pearson's departure. I guess Kanté should also be involved but it feels like that was in the pipe line long before Pearson's departure.
Farrington fox Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 6 hours ago, Kitchandro said: He's a Director of Football, he's responsible for securing transfer deals. I'm not interested in anyone saying anything tbh, I just want them to sort it out, or get sacked. Talk is cheap. I don't believe a word they say anyway. Wasn't Neville director of football? What is his title now?
sylofox Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 5 hours ago, lgfualol said: I wont be satisfied until him, Top, Whelan and Vichai are all on the pitch before Liverpool shouting "LETS BE AVIN YOU" Then cooking the perfect omelette?
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Well said mate, the man is a complete terrorist to this club. Unfortunately he's like Putin with his Twitter bots denying all knowledge.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 40 minutes ago, Thracian said: Wouldn't make it any more right though. Or the person concerned any more popular. And if there were any truth in it (and I've really no idea about that), the question might then be asked as to whether our latest signings have found it harder to fit into the group than previous signings over the last three or four years? Oh yes, I agree with 100%. However, if Rudkin is getting away with doing things he is accused of, the buck surely stops somewhere else. He shouldn't be allowed to pull the wool over the eyes of a successful business man. Top I can understand, he's naive and never worked a day in his life. Vichai, however, is a shrewd operator whose done far more in his life than me or Rudkin. He must be doing something right in his eyes to be such a prominent member.
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 24 minutes ago, Farrington fox said: Wasn't Neville director of football? What is his title now? Football secretary or something like that. He's a good bloke.
Fox92 Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Tried to get Nigel Pearson the sack after the James McArthur incident (allegedly) Alienated anyone in the Academy (staff) that tried to be conventional and dynamic, hence the shocking state it is in (allegedly) Makes bids for players and then seldom follows up the interest unsettling players and clubs (allegedly) I was always under the impression Pearson never really liked him. No evidence at all just what I thought.
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