Guest Danny Clender Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 Even if by the most bizarre of circumstances Rudkin were to make a statement it would be a very generic, bland assessment of the situation we currently find ourselves in and that with time he's confident it will turn around. That would incense the fans even more, best he continues silently in my opinion.
benpicko Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 52 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Slightly off topic but why did we end up going for Eduardo Macia as Head of recruitment rather than Paul Mitchell? Mitchell always seem the guy who would continue to unearth gems as we had seen under Walsh and his experience at Spurs and Southampton suggested that also. Macia, though he may be good seemed more suited to scouting the big name players I.e Torres and Mascherano and the guy you would expect to recommend a punt on a Riyad Mahrez. More suited to philosophy we implemented. did he reject us or did we just choose to go elsewhere? As far as I remember we didn't want to wait until January until we could hire him?
The Horse's Mouth Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 the rudkin scapegoat has to be one of my favourites since Wellens left
sylofox Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 This reminds me of the mystery player thread in the transfer forum. Second page but no one really knows what we are talking about. Will it get to 60 odd pages?
lgfualol Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 I wont be satisfied until him, Top, Whelan and Vichai are all on the pitch before Liverpool shouting "LETS BE AVIN YOU"
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 1 hour ago, Kitchandro said: He's a Director of Football, he's responsible for securing transfer deals. We know that but I don't see how the lack of good transfer activity impacts on Mahrez's level of effort or DD's ability to pass a ball 20 yards. It' not like Slimani got through on goal on Sunday and suddenly thought "oh shit JR really is crap as his job, he couldn't even get a decent young CB in over January, I better kick this straight at their goalkeeper".
davieG Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: We know that but I don't see how the lack of good transfer activity impacts on Mahrez's level of effort or DD's ability to pass a ball 20 yards. It' not like Slimani got through on goal on Sunday and suddenly thought "oh shit JR really is crap as his job, he couldn't even get a decent young CB in over January, I better kick this straight at their goalkeeper". No but it does reflect on the overall demise of the football at all levels.
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 45 minutes ago, Babylon said: Appreciate that, but obviously we don't know the full story from back then in terms of investment etc. We were pretty strapped for cash for a long time with the stadium around our neck. We've gone for Cat 1 status and the owners will now expect a better rate of development with that investment, but like I say that can take time. Having an interest albeit slightly detached. The owners i'm sure would expect more for their investment, impression given out is that Claudio see's himself as a first team coach and unlike NP is not as interested as I believe he should be at the development level. If a player excels he won't ignore him but not that active
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 1 hour ago, norwichfox said: Don't forget Rudkin's been involved with the youth team since 2003, it's still his puppy..... It's achieved quite a lot in that time I'll remind you, didn't we win the league in the grand days of King Sheehan Gradel Porter Dodds etc. Ironically we have had a massive overhaul to get top status and since then things have gone down hill Rudkin is more than capable of putting a good youth team together as is SB they are just going through a rough patch talent wise, there is a fair amount of luck in getting in players of that age, hard to judge potential improvement, hence why young players are often let go by clubs and resurface else where. Admittedly if it goes on for a sustained period you need to get rid but as far as I am aware it's a recentish problem. All youth teams go through stages of strength. Also the problem is nowhere near as bad as some are making out, we aren't even bottom, and we are division above several other Prem U23 teams. As for his involvement in our current problem, I don't know what you want from him really you'd like to think no matter what you think of our summer signings Claudio has still be given the tools to do the job and is failing horribly, his last team did consist mostly of Premier League winners.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said: the rudkin scapegoat has to be one of my favourites since Wellens left People hate him for one reason and one reason only, all this DOF should be made accountable look at the terrible youth team etc etc are just several long sticks people like to use to beat him with. The actual reason people hate him is because Ngolo Kante was given a minimum fee release clause and he was responsible for agreeing to it.
los dedos Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 4 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: The actual reason people hate him is because Ngolo Kante was given a minimum fee release clause and he was responsible for agreeing to it. Would kante of signed if he'd played hard ball with the release clause?
yorkie1999 Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 6 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: People hate him for one reason and one reason only, all this DOF should be made accountable look at the terrible youth team etc etc are just several long sticks people like to use to beat him with. The actual reason people hate him is because Ngolo Kante was given a minimum fee release clause and he was responsible for agreeing to it. I think Kante had probably made a deal with chelsea before he even signed for us.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 3 minutes ago, los dedos said: Would kante of signed if he'd played hard ball with the release clause? Who knows. I've no massive problem with Rudkin, personally, he's hardly top of my Christmas card list but very few people at the club are at the moment as what's occuring is difficult to watch. I'm just illustrating the reasons people actually have a problem with him instead of the reasons being given here which is essentially people finding any reason they can to have a go at him because of the above reason.
Webbo Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 1 minute ago, Manwell Pablo said: Who knows. I've no massive problem with Rudkin, personally, I'm just illustrating the reasons people actually have a problem with him instead of the reasons being given here which is essentially people finding any reason they can to have a go at him because of the above reason. He's also been blamed for poor signings, which I thought were all picked by computer analysts here nowadays. He's being blamed for the youth team as if it's his fault we haven't signed better youngsters.
FoxFossil Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 Its a Business, owned by Business, run as a Business.I dont think the owners are 'vanity' owners like some, but as non-football people, its the balance sheet that the owners look at. Which is looking pretty good after winning the Prem, I guess. The financial consequences of relegation will require a sale of players, but if they can get £13m for Schlupp, then the Business isn't actually costing the owners a huge amount, in the big scheme of things, so perhaps thats why they are not in a rush to make changes at DofF or Chief Coach level. What would a sale of Kasper, Mahrez, Slim, and Vardy bring in? £50m? Leaves owners not hugely out of pocket, hence no recruitment. I can think of no other rational explanation. How many times do Business people say, when you ask for extra resources..well just manage with what youve got, thats what we pay you for.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 Just now, Webbo said: He's also been blamed for poor signings, which I thought were all picked by computer analysts here nowadays. He's being blamed for the youth team as if it's his fault we haven't signed better youngsters. That's the point I'm making Webbo He's been blamed for these things as we're desperate to hate him for whatever reason possible. Do you think anyone would care the youth team were in a bit of a (top division) U 23 relegation scrap if we were 9th in the League and Kante hadn't been sold. Better yet do you think the blame would be being laid at Rudkins door even if people were bringing it up.
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 Some of the responses on here are amazing. What's he done wrong? It's not his fault If only you lot knew.
Webbo Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: That's the point I'm making Webbo He's been blamed for these things as we're desperate to hate him for whatever reason possible. Do you think anyone would care the youth team were in a bit of a (top division) U 23 relegation scrap if we were 9th in the League and Kante hadn't been sold. Better yet do you think the blame would be being laid at Rudkins door even if people were bringing it up. I meant to quote your post about letting Kante go.
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 Not all of the lads playing in U23s have come through the ranks, possibly half or so. Others bought in as prospects and on decent money, these are not necessarily the best we have. Seen them many times and it may be a different story if all those under the age of 23 not playing regular first team football and 3 of the over 23s made an appearance every now and again to give them a lift. JR is not everyone's cup of tea and Les Reed seems to have it sussed but I don't think hes the reason 10-11 players have reverted back to their levels pre Leicester.
Babylon Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 21 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: Some of the responses on here are amazing. What's he done wrong? It's not his fault If only you lot knew. Enlighten people then.
Shaggy Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 3 hours ago, norwichfox said: Why?......because no fooker has a clue what he actually does, maybe he's an expert at something? who knows? Double Glazing
Ric Flair Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 39 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: Some of the responses on here are amazing. What's he done wrong? It's not his fault If only you lot knew. Well said mate, the man is a complete terrorist to this club.
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