Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 America going socialist would be the biggest change the World has seen. We also need to plan if there is a chance of it happening, there will so much business and wealth leaving it up for grabs. The consequences for NATO could be huge as well.
leicsmac Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 2 minutes ago, MattP said: America going socialist would be the biggest change the World has seen. We also need to plan if there is a chance of it happening, there will so much business and wealth leaving it up for grabs. The consequences for NATO could be huge as well. I can't see it happening to be honest - not for a long time, at least outside of certain areas. From my time there the attitudes towards individualism are way too strong in the majority of places.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 46 minutes ago, leicsmac said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/23/make-america-white-again-a-politicians-billboard-ignites-uproar/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9e4872090db4 Well done, this current administration, for enabling and normalising this. The current administration has enabled and normalised a billboard from 2016 when the Democrats were in power and Obama was president? Even for someone who hates Trump this is bit ludicrous Mac.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 2 minutes ago, leicsmac said: I can't see it happening to be honest - not for a long time, at least outside of certain areas. From my time there the attitudes towards individualism are way too strong in the majority of places. It would be mental, the richest country in the World turning it's back on everything that made it that way to turn towards a system that makes them poorer. Not impossible though. Be good for us though as I say, the biggest companies in the World and the brightest minds in the country would be looking to relocate.
leicsmac Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 5 minutes ago, MattP said: The current administration has enabled and normalised a billboard from 2016 when the Democrats were in power and Obama was president? Even for someone who hates Trump this is bit ludicrous Mac. ...the fvck? Shit, I knew I'd seen that before somewhere, didn't check the damn date. That'll teach me to check my sources more carefully. I think my point about this administration enabling and normalising the likes of Spencer et al stands though. 2 minutes ago, MattP said: It would be mental, the richest country in the World turning it's back on everything that made it that way to turn towards a system that makes them poorer. Not impossible though. Be good for us though as I say, the biggest companies in the World and the brightest minds in the country would be looking to relocate. The richest...with also the biggest disparity between that wealth and the poorest. That progress comes at a cost of lives and livelihoods - better that is at least known and acknowledged rather than pretending it doesn't exist. Like I said, honestly can't see it happening though.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 5 minutes ago, MattP said: It would be mental, the richest country in the World turning it's back on everything that made it that way to turn towards a system that makes them poorer. Not impossible though. Be good for us though as I say, the biggest companies in the World and the brightest minds in the country would be looking to relocate. The red flag flying side by side with the stars and stripes would spark a global democratic revolutions for the left. South America would be able to do what its people have always wanted without CIA interference. The EU would quickly fall in line to a new socialist world order and the centralised nature of the bloc would make this a seamless and bloodless transition.
leicsmac Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 Exhibit A for why the US won't do anything of the sort Sharpe: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rules-against-public-unions-collecting-fees-for-nonmembers/2018/06/27/ccdf6bf4-7a0c-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.f3bf55c53539
leicsmac Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 And rather related: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44634176 Looks like women who enjoy the freedom to choose and folks who want to marry someone of the same gender better enjoy what they have right now because I'm not sure how much longer it will last - this was always a deep long-term possible consequence of 2016. I hope very much that I'm wrong, though.
lifted*fox Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 7 hours ago, MattP said: It would be mental, the richest country in the World turning it's back on everything that made it that way to turn towards a system that makes them poorer. Not impossible though. Hmm, sounds just like Brexit!
UPinCarolina Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 The Republicans blocking President Obama from appointing a successor to Justice Anton Scalia was so hugely important. Today is why.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2018 Posted 27 June 2018 4 hours ago, lifted*fox said: Hmm, sounds just like Brexit! Understandable if so. I'm surprised it's took so long for ordinary people to try and cut themselves off from the elite.
Detroit Blues Posted 28 June 2018 Posted 28 June 2018 The Supreme Court is about to swing further in the Republican's favor. This could have huge implications.
SMX11 Posted 28 June 2018 Posted 28 June 2018 16 hours ago, leicsmac said: Exhibit A for why the US won't do anything of the sort Sharpe: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rules-against-public-unions-collecting-fees-for-nonmembers/2018/06/27/ccdf6bf4-7a0c-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.f3bf55c53539 Long overdue.
leicsmac Posted 28 June 2018 Posted 28 June 2018 1 hour ago, SMX11 said: Long overdue. Wait til the SC gets cracking on other stuff than shafting workers...
Izzy Posted 28 June 2018 Posted 28 June 2018 Annapolis shooting: Five killed in attack on US newspaper https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44645986
lifted*fox Posted 28 June 2018 Posted 28 June 2018 more blessings from god and prayers all round then we move on to the next one
lifted*fox Posted 28 June 2018 Posted 28 June 2018 Arnie making Trump look a total bitch without being a ****. Amazing. Let him run the ****ing planet, imo.
leicsmac Posted 29 June 2018 Posted 29 June 2018 As some folks have said when this has happened in the past...if things don't change after scores of kids got shot at Sandy Hook then they're likely never going to.
Voll Blau Posted 29 June 2018 Posted 29 June 2018 12 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Annapolis shooting: Five killed in attack on US newspaper https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44645986
breadandcheese Posted 29 June 2018 Posted 29 June 2018 9 hours ago, lifted*fox said: Arnie making Trump look a total bitch without being a ****. Amazing. Let him run the ****ing planet, imo. Well done Arnie. Good video.
lifted*fox Posted 29 June 2018 Posted 29 June 2018 ****ing love it, great way to protest with some humour. hopefully won't get grounded - can't understand how they'll stop them from getting it up there tbh.
Jon the Hat Posted 29 June 2018 Posted 29 June 2018 2 hours ago, Voll Blau said: I read the shooter had sued the paper and lost the case.
Vacamion Posted 29 June 2018 Author Posted 29 June 2018 37 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: I read the shooter had sued the paper and lost the case. Do you not at least concede that anti press rhetoric could embolden someone who might otherwise have been borderline about seeking personal retribution? Or that depicting the press as "the enemy" is a dangerous road to go down, which has previously led to authoritarian regimes?
Jon the Hat Posted 29 June 2018 Posted 29 June 2018 1 minute ago, Vacamion said: Do you not at least concede that anti press rhetoric could embolden someone who might otherwise have been borderline about seeking personal retribution? Or that depicting the press as "the enemy" is a dangerous road to go down, which has previously led to authoritarian regimes? Trumps portrayal of the press is horrendous and no doubt dangerous, but it doesn’t help the argument if we jump to conclusions in this case imo, it allows more wankers to claim fake news.
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