GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 I've just been told by an ITK that leave release clause has been met and is going for a medical Fcuking Arsenal ! French and German club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 BBC leaving the pile of rubbers just out of shot then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 YouGovs projection from polling today has remain 52-48. Now we wait. Why do Sunderland always race to declare first in any vote? Is life really that pointless up there that they've nothing else to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Decided I'm way more arsed about wanting one of those embarrassing cvnts in Sunderland to stack it while running with a ballot box than I am about the actual result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 YouGovs projection from polling today has remain 52-48. Now we wait. Why do Sunderland always race to declare first in any vote? Is life really that pointless up there that they've nothing else to do? Because the counters are from Durham and hate the stinking shite hole of Sunderland They just want to get home and showered ASAP !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 David is moist WTF It is babestation ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Amazed Cameron has had that letter of support from 87 Eurosceptic MP's including every cabinet member, he's going to somehow get away with this, luckiest man in the World. Maybe we're wrong about the Tory civil war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMX11 Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Amazed Cameron has had that letter of support from 87 Eurosceptic MP's including every cabinet member, he's going to somehow get away with this, luckiest man in the World. Maybe we're wrong about the Tory civil war. The Conservatives always put their party above the country and will no doubt lie down and wither away instead of leaving on principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Presumably a fair chunk of those are going on the basis that he'll be gone before the next election anyway, so they can start rocking the boat once he takes a knee rather than trying to bomb him out now in retaliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Amazed Cameron has had that letter of support from 87 Eurosceptic MP's including every cabinet member, he's going to somehow get away with this, luckiest man in the World. Maybe we're wrong about the Tory civil war. Judas kissed Jesus on the cheek ! The civil war is already underway ! Boris Johnson is only person in his family and circle that backed leave He backed leave because he saw nationalist sentiment rising and the ukip 4m votes impressed him He has backed a looser and now the floppy hair cvnt can Fcuk off back to what ever lady friend he currently has ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Just watched Lord Hesseltine on ITV. Jeez, he looks really old and frail now. I enjoyed his interview but he'll definitely be on my 2017 death list predictions I think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Just watched Lord Hesseltine on ITV. Jeez, he looks really old and frail now. I enjoyed his interview but he'll definitely be on my 2017 death list predictions I think.. He has a nice gaff ! Politics was good to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Democracy is the road to socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 The Conservatives always put their party above the country and will no doubt lie down and wither away instead of leaving on principle. Yep, I can see it as well. The trump card is Corbyn, if he's there and in with a chance in 2020 then no matter how much middle ground voters will hate the Tories over this they'll still vote for them to make sure he's kept out of number 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple987 Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Can the next PM promise another referendum on EU membership? I don't get all this only ever chance business, surely we can hold another referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Germans do have a sense of humour LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple987 Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Yep, I can see it as well. The trump card is Corbyn, if he's there and in with a chance in 2020 then no matter how much middle ground voters will hate the Tories over this they'll still vote for them to make sure he's kept out of number 10. Corbyn prime minister wow that would be horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Democracy is the road to socialism. Prehistoric dinosaur thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 - Business & finance are global, as are trade, security & environment, so part of democracy needs to be more international (yes, EU democracy needs to improve, but isolating ourselves from those decisions isn't the solution) - The EU achieved a lot before the financial crash/Euro crisis (massive trade growth, higher living standards in UK, rapid improvement of former fascist/communist states) - In the EU, we are 1 of the 3 most influential powers in the world's most powerful, most highly developed trading/political bloc, operating as equals with the US, China etc, instead of as an isolated, much weaker power - Whether we leave or stay, we can legislate to counteract low pay encouraged by immigration (labour inspections, prosecutions of illegal pay, job advertising laws, social funds to help public services in high-immigration areas) - After Brexit, we'd have to choose between the single market & control of our borders, BOTH would simply NOT be an option .....If we chose the single market, we'd still be subject to EU regulations & contributions, but would have no say .....If we chose control of our borders, we'd have to renegotiate trade deals with the EU; this would take about 10 years & we'd end up with a worse deal & probably less trade, undermining growth ..... We'd have to renegotiate almost all our non-EU trade deals, which would take years to negotiate and we don't have the resources to negotiate 2 deals simultaneously, never mind 60-70; the idea we just "start trading elsewhere" is rubbish .....We'd need to re-establish border posts with Republic of Ireland, risking a resumption of IRA/Loyalist terrorism .... We'd have to rewrite nearly all UK law within 2-3 years, devolving the power to Govt, as parliament couldn't handle the volume .....Scotland would probably leave the UK - Holding a referendum & voting to stay in the EU will give us a stronger mandate to propose/demand EU reform - We'll be economically better off (Remain exaggerated via "Project Fear", but a downturn affecting incomes, jobs, prices & public services IS almost certain post-Brexit, due to uncertainty, which discourages business/investment) - If we stay, there's less likelihood of the EU collapsing economically or falling prey to dangerous Far Right extremists & we'll avoid the hostility/tension inevitable after Brexit More than enough reasons...though the EU certainly needs reform. I hope you'll take it as a compliment when I say that you're one of very few people who've offered considered opinions which have made me wonder about changing my decision to vote "Leave". My oldest son was one of the others. In the end, I still felt my own reasons for leaving were the stronger but only if changing had the desired effect which remains highly debateable even in the event of a leave vote tonight. In the end I felt that, without change, there was absolutely no chance of ending the damaging dictats, and remorselessly expansionist impact, of EU politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 ing at Robert Peston sat on the ITV panel casualy checking his phone and sending a few texts and tweets while the others debate. Like the slow speaking, deliberate boss that he his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 ing at Robert Peston sat on the ITV panel casualy checking his phone and sending a few texts and tweets while the others debate. Like the slow speaking, deliberate boss that he his Sky's coverage is shit, ITV is shit and now BBC have the nonce finder general on speaking, think I'm going to stick Sopranos on for an episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 And the BBC dropping Andrew Neil tonight is on a par with Hodgson's team selection v Slovakia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 Billions Cracking TV Pre results And the BBC dropping Andrew Neil tonight is on a par with Hodgson's team selection v Slovakia. Well said ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 23 June 2016 Share Posted 23 June 2016 I'd we remain, all this anger of 'dictats' will go into political activism regarding identifying the specific issues, balanced understanding of such and improving the EU through campaigning both in national and European elections. That will happen, right? That'll definitely happen right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.