yorkie1999 Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 3 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: The problem is we still have drink drivers. Yes, but not as many, or do we???..do we have less drink drivers because there are less police arresting them because there are less traffic police on the roads today. Some counties don't even have a doad traffic division anymore because of cuts and centralizing resources.
LiberalFox Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 15 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Bit like speed cameras. Problem is they don't catch drink drivers. There's a thought, why not stick a security camera in every mosque. Nothing to hide and all that! I think our country's handling of drink driving is relatively good. We have a fairly good balance between enforcement, social attitude and liberty. I'd go for something similar regarding terrorism.
Thracian Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 4 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Thrac, you are banging on about keeping them out, but that ship sailed 40 years ago mate, this problem is here in our midst, closing the door after the horse bolted won't help. Corbyn's not going to close the door even or even put some glass in. Given his attitude to various terrorists, he'll probably have an open day!
Thracian Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 25 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: The education happens in places like Syria, Lybia places we are bombing as well as over here so education is not going to stop it, got to wipe out the source now or withdraw from Muslim country's and see if that stops it What do you reckon, we should be gone in the morning? That'll hit the season ticket sales!
LiberalFox Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 13 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: The problem is we still have drink drivers. I don't see how you can solve any problem involving humans liberally without accepting there will always be some risk at least in the short term.
whoareyaaa Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 5 minutes ago, Thracian said: What do you reckon, we should be gone in the morning? That's hit the season ticket sales! bit to late now I think, these are the consequences of the people ruling us.
LiberalFox Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 21 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Moving resources when you have a crisis is perfectly sensible, and I think cancelling leave is something they have always done no? I mostly agree with you, I just don't think anyone in politics is being entirely honest but that's because we have an election coming up. I think the response time was great but we don't know if that was down to good planning or luck.
whoareyaaa Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 SAS soldier reveals everyday weapons and tactics you need to fight back against a terrorist knife attack http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/sas-soldier-reveals-everyday-weapons-and-tactics-you-need-to-fight-back-against-a-terrorist-knife-attack/ar-BBC0waY?li=AA59G2&ocid=spartanntp good read, basically saying if you come across one of these terrorists, go wild!
Great Boos Up Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 Concrete "anti terror" edge blocks installed (plonked down in about 5 minutes) on London bridges. My issue is; I would have assumed this would have been done after the last London terrorist action a few weeks ago. Everybody seems to be all talk and terror will not win and lets hold a charity concert. We can't stop the will of terrorist to commit their actions only film it. But surely we can find out who funded/assisted or knew. All these arrests. What happens to them?
Lionator Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 31 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Fvckin integration! there's no such thing. My girlfriend comes from a Pakistani Muslim family background who are completely integrated into British society.
yorkie1999 Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 6 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: SAS soldier reveals everyday weapons and tactics you need to fight back against a terrorist knife attack http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/sas-soldier-reveals-everyday-weapons-and-tactics-you-need-to-fight-back-against-a-terrorist-knife-attack/ar-BBC0waY?li=AA59G2&ocid=spartanntp good read, basically saying if you come across one of these terrorists, go wild! The pint things a good idea, especially for me as there's always one handy bit I think I'd have to empty the contents first, but the pub umbrella...cmon, for a start there's 40kg of concrete at the bottom and by the time you figure out how to get it down the mad knife man would have either stuck it in you or collapsed pissing himself laughing
yorkie1999 Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 1 minute ago, Lionator said: My girlfriend comes from a Pakistani Muslim family background who are completely integrated into British society. Sorry, just a rash statement
Lionator Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 Just now, yorkie1999 said: Sorry, just a rash statement Tis alright my friend. There's an enormous amount of anomosity towards Muslims on my facebook. I'm slightly worried that we're going to start seeing some unpleasant reactions from some people.
leicsmac Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 8 minutes ago, Lionator said: Tis alright my friend. There's an enormous amount of anomosity towards Muslims on my facebook. I'm slightly worried that we're going to start seeing some unpleasant reactions from some people.I'm slightly worried that we're going to start seeing some unpleasant reactions from some people. 1 That's what I'm afraid of too. The whole thing is a tinderbox and there are people on all sides only too eager to light the flame in the name of proving their own superiority.
yorkie1999 Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 10 minutes ago, leicsmac said: That's what I'm afraid of too. The whole thing is a tinderbox and there are people on all sides only too eager to light the flame in the name of proving their own superiority. Which makes you wonder, is it a good idea or a bad idea to try to integrate different cultures and societies because it's painfully obvious there is always going to be trouble at the end of the day. And I know what you're going to say, this country is made up of hundreds of differing cultures even going back 2000 years, we are a mongrel race and this country has always benifited from integration which made it a strong country etc etc. But what's going off now is different. It's about pure hate for our beliefs and not as in the past, about wealth and prosperity
Lionator Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 Just now, yorkie1999 said: Which makes you wonder, is it a good idea or a bad idea to try to integrate different cultures and societies because it's painfully obvious there is always going to be trouble at the end of the day. The first generations integrated so it is very possible, these are second and mostly third generation Brits. It's more a society problem than an immigration problem.
Buce Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 Imans refuse to say funeral prayers for killers: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/05/imams-refuse-funeral-prayers-to-indefensible-london-bridge-attackers
yorkie1999 Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 4 minutes ago, Lionator said: The first generations integrated so it is very possible, these are second and mostly third generation Brits. It's more a society problem than an immigration problem. See added comment about this country being a mongrel of nations
yorkie1999 Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 3 minutes ago, Buce said: Imans refuse to say funeral prayers for killers: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/05/imams-refuse-funeral-prayers-to-indefensible-london-bridge-attackers Obviously to be applauded, but does that mean they've said prayers for the other attacks. Fvckin distgusting if they have
Great Boos Up Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 1 minute ago, yorkie1999 said: Which makes you wonder, is it a good idea or a bad idea to try to integrate different cultures and societies because is painfully obvious there is always going to be trouble at the end of the day. We live in Leicester, the integration of different cultures is wonderful. We've just re buried a Plantagenet king after a thousand years of religious in fighting and wars with our neighbours to settle as protestant Christians. As always it's the clash of faith that's the problem. My problem is I have no faith, so I can't see a solution of any sort and will never understand it.
yorkie1999 Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 10 minutes ago, Great Boos Up said: We live in Leicester, the integration of different cultures is wonderful. We've just re buried a Plantagenet king after a thousand years of religious in fighting and wars with our neighbours to settle as protestant Christians. As always it's the clash of faith that's the problem. My problem is I have no faith, so I can't see a solution of any sort and will never understand it. I bet you do have a faith, before you jump down my throat let me ask you, we're you brought up in a school and by parents that taught you right from wrong, that it's wrong to nick things and kill people and to treat people as you expect to be treated etc etc. Well that's a belief in a way of life be it Christian or Muslim or whatever, which is your faith. Once someone goes against that way of life, or belief, they are going against their faith which is why these terrorists are no longer part of their faith and won't get to shag 24 virgins like the rest of us will
oohaahmustafa Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 Clearly not all Muslims are bad people. but i really hate it when people say its nothing to do with islam, nothing will get solved by saying that, we need to get all religion in the bin asap. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/stop-saying-violence-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam/
yorkie1999 Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 3 minutes ago, oohaahmustafa said: Clearly not all Muslims are bad people. but i really hate it when people say its nothing to do with islam, nothing will get solved by saying that, we need to get all religion in the bin asap. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/stop-saying-violence-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam/ Or just pretend we've all converted to Islam, that'll twist their melons.
leicsmac Posted 5 June 2017 Posted 5 June 2017 51 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Which makes you wonder, is it a good idea or a bad idea to try to integrate different cultures and societies because it's painfully obvious there is always going to be trouble at the end of the day. And I know what you're going to say, this country is made up of hundreds of differing cultures even going back 2000 years, we are a mongrel race and this country has always benifited from integration which made it a strong country etc etc. But what's going off now is different. It's about pure hate for our beliefs and not as in the past, about wealth and prosperity Well, I think it is possible and more importantly it had better be, because in the future at some point is going to become absolutely necessary.
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