Rincewind Posted 6 June 2017 Posted 6 June 2017 I have not seen anyone do that. The ones that do the attacks IMO are the quiet ones in the background and would not draw attention to themselves in that manner as a rule.
m4DD0gg Posted 6 June 2017 Posted 6 June 2017 The UK government is completely pathetic and inadequate at dealing with this issue as are lefty idiots who actually make this problem worse.
surrifox Posted 6 June 2017 Posted 6 June 2017 3 hours ago, MattP said: A good thing to come from this is people are now finally talking about the Saudi Arabian influence in spreading a poisonious interpretation of Islam across the planet whenever they get the chance, after years of anyone bringing it up on shows like Question Time or The Big Questions being smeared as racist or Islamophobes it's really great to see it becoming mainstream. I think it's probably too late for Europe to put a stop to it as it's now here but hopefully the rest of the World is taking note. It should have been obvious really that something was going on in the Muslim world and that might be it.- I can't think of a single Muslim country which is a) not f***ed up. B) has a contented and harmonious population and c) is free of oppression of minorities . There may be one or two - I just can't think of any and I resent the poisonous element bringing their shite over to my country.
The Bear Posted 6 June 2017 Posted 6 June 2017 Classic British humour.This man who refused to run from the three attackers, and instead shouted "**** off, i'm Millwall" and went at them, received this gift from his mates in Hospital
Countryfox Posted 6 June 2017 Posted 6 June 2017 1 minute ago, The Bear said: Classic British humour. This man who refused to run from the three attackers, and instead shouted "**** off, i'm Millwall" and went at them, received this gift from his mates in Hospital Top man. Those scumbags will never, ever win.
brucey Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/05/london-terrorist-appeared-channel-4-jihadi-documentary-tried/
Innovindil Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 4 hours ago, brucey said: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/05/london-terrorist-appeared-channel-4-jihadi-documentary-tried/ Going to be entertaining seeing the security services explain this to the victims families. So far all I've heard is "we need more money so we can have people asking for information in the communities". What's the point if they don't use the information they have already.
Merging Cultures Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 Classic British humour.This man who refused to run from the three attackers, and instead shouted "**** off, i'm Millwall" and went at them, received this gift from his mates in Hospital[emoji3]My wife says he should give his mates a gift, an MMA magazine... Learn how to fight.
Parafox Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 20 hours ago, Rincewind said: I was with a Muslim last night who plays in our group. Nice bloke. The subject of the attack came up of the attacks and he agreed with someone else that the radicals came from the Saudia Arabia side of Islam which he is not part of. He was saying more needs to be done to stop the infiltrating of Mosques which again are not the sect he attends. TBH I am not keen on bringing the subject uo with him because of upsetting or offending him. I am pretty sure he does not regard the killers as fellow Muslims and would happily report anyone he thought was radicalised. He won last night and gave the winnings to the charity we play for. I am sure that anyone who met him would find him a likeable decent bloke even the 'Send all Muslims back' brigade Apart from reporting odd behavior what can family and communities do. A lot of Mosques already turn away anyone that have extreme views. They will be the ones on the watch list. But just having views is not a crime in itself. Whether there is a way of getting round this I do not know. It will be like someone saying I understand why they feel that way and before they know it the cops are breaking down their door. Who was it, Cat Stevens?
m4DD0gg Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40183147 How is lizard queen going to explain this one, how any one can still stand behind an open door policy is mentally ill.
Thracian Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 16 hours ago, m4DD0gg said: The UK government is completely pathetic and inadequate at dealing with this issue as are lefty idiots who actually make this problem worse. I've not noticed anyone from any mainstream party having the will to deal with terrorism or the slightest chance of their being elected or backed in doing the job if they were. In the end we will pay dearly and it will be some of all our kids and grandkids who will suffer and wonder why we let it happen - and that includes the families of incomers who've come here for a better future. UKIP briefly held some promise - I know from listening to an entire conference that they were far more moderate than the politicals of the press painted - but they were so pathetic in selecting their representatives and far too many were seemingly into it for their own, rather than the nation's benefit, they were beyond supporting with an conviction. Now I've no faith in anyone. Politically we're a washout right now. May's the only reasonably sensible vote but it's a real Hobson's choice and I might not vote at all because what we've got right now is what I've always believed democracy could be. And exercise in voting for people we don't want. You need someone special running a country. And we're not likely to have that with so many people with their own sometimes blind and unseeing prejudices, making the choice.
Rincewind Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 Ryhad Miraz and Slimani what would happen to them if some people had their way?
yorkie1999 Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 14 minutes ago, Rincewind said: Ryhad Miraz and Slimani what would happen to them if some people had their way? How do you mean?
lgfualol Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 51 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40183147 How is lizard queen going to explain this one, how any one can still stand behind an open door policy is mentally ill. "Scaremongering" "Jeremy Corbyn" "Strong and Stable" There we go.
Itsthejoeker Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 15 minutes ago, Rincewind said: Ryhad Miraz and Slimani what would happen to them if some people had their way?
Carl the Llama Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 32 minutes ago, Itsthejoeker said: Clearly not a stable individual: Clicked the tweet to see if people had responded to let him know what a lowlife he is and got greeted by him retweeting a video of a fat guy sticking his dick in a hoover. People like him shouldn't be allowed to breed.
orangecity23 Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 6 hours ago, Carl the Llama said: Clearly not a stable individual: Clicked the tweet to see if people had responded to let him know what a lowlife he is and got greeted by him retweeting a video of a fat guy sticking his dick in a hoover. People like him shouldn't be allowed to breed. If he sticks his dick in a hoover he's not going to be doing much breeding afterwards.
HankMarvin Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3748758/dramatic-moment-hero-cops-storm-in-and-gun-down-three-knife-wielding-jihadi-maniacs-seconds-after-revellers-are-brutally-stabbed-in-borough-market/
yorkie1999 Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 19 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3748758/dramatic-moment-hero-cops-storm-in-and-gun-down-three-knife-wielding-jihadi-maniacs-seconds-after-revellers-are-brutally-stabbed-in-borough-market/ The comment about cremating them and feeding the ashes to pigs could be a future deterrent.
HankMarvin Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 4 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: The comment about cremating them and feeding the ashes to pigs could be a future deterrent. would deter me eating sausages
Bellend Sebastian Posted 7 June 2017 Posted 7 June 2017 55 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3748758/dramatic-moment-hero-cops-storm-in-and-gun-down-three-knife-wielding-jihadi-maniacs-seconds-after-revellers-are-brutally-stabbed-in-borough-market/ Bloody hell. They don't muck about, those coppers, do they? From seeing stuff in TV dramas you sort of expect them to walk slowly up to the bad guys or shoot them from behind cover. This is more like wading into a fist fight, but instead of with a bottle or cosh in hand, it's a machine gun. They're fantastically well trained aren't they? Given that they almost never fire their weapons in anger, they've sorted those c***s out in the blink of an eye
Jon the Hat Posted 8 June 2017 Posted 8 June 2017 3 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said: Bloody hell. They don't muck about, those coppers, do they? From seeing stuff in TV dramas you sort of expect them to walk slowly up to the bad guys or shoot them from behind cover. This is more like wading into a fist fight, but instead of with a bottle or cosh in hand, it's a machine gun. They're fantastically well trained aren't they? Given that they almost never fire their weapons in anger, they've sorted those c***s out in the blink of an eye To be fair if you hardly ever fire your gun in anger you have plenty of time to train. Yes though, very impressive.
Jon the Hat Posted 8 June 2017 Posted 8 June 2017 4 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: The comment about cremating them and feeding the ashes to pigs could be a future deterrent. I seriously doubt it. Don't confuse these Islamist idiots with rational thinking Muslims.
Guest Kopfkino Posted 8 June 2017 Posted 8 June 2017 This is exactly what needs to happen. I'm not saying listening to this guy is going to deradicalise folk but it's exactly the frank, open and articulate discussion that is needed about Islam from Muslims themselves. Been reading into the guy and what he says since I saw the video and he really is excellent. I think politicians in this country should take note on how to discuss and debate. Edit: Basically the guy on the left is a radical muslim, the guy on the right is a progressive, but still moderate, Kuwaiti called Dr. Nasser Dashti.
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