4everfox Posted 31 July 2017 Posted 31 July 2017 Keep Slimani and sell Ulloa for multiple reasons such as; Slimani cost 30 million and Ulloa cost 8 million so we would therefore make a smaller loss. Slimani is better than Ulloa. Slimani will score more goals than Ulloa. Ulloa wanted to leave in January.
ZeGuy Posted 31 July 2017 Posted 31 July 2017 2 hours ago, foxhateram said: They both have great qualities. I don't think we need to choose between the two. Although they both play a CF role, they are both very different. Ulloa seems to find better scoring positions than Slim, but Slim is better with ball at his feet. Ulloa wins more headers (defensively as well, useful for seeing out a game) but Slimani brings the ball down more effectively. At the end of the day they are both going to be bit part players, as they don't really suit our style of play. A plan B if you like. If it's a more defenseive game, I would prefer Ulloa to be a good outlet and cover at the back from set pieced. If it's an attacking one, then I would prefer Slimani who can get the ball down but also provide the strength to hold up the ball. If they're both happy to be ready to play their roles, then why isn't plausible to have both. They are both in a CF mould but are both V different in style of play. I strongly disagree. Slim is actually very good at finding goal scoring position and absolutely blows Ulloa out the water in this aspect. The problem is the finishing (when not on his head). You don't bring a striker to defend, rating a forward based on his defensive flicks on, is something some of the FT members should really, really smash out of their heads. Ulloa is past his best and won't make it to the bench this season, even more so if we sign that Nacho man. He's not even part of the plan Z. If Slim stays, he has to go.
Foxhateram Posted 31 July 2017 Posted 31 July 2017 1 hour ago, ZeGuy said: I strongly disagree. Slim is actually very good at finding goal scoring position and absolutely blows Ulloa out the water in this aspect. The problem is the finishing (when not on his head). You don't bring a striker to defend, rating a forward based on his defensive flicks on, is something some of the FT members should really, really smash out of their heads. Ulloa is past his best and won't make it to the bench this season, even more so if we sign that Nacho man. He's not even part of the plan Z. If Slim stays, he has to go. Well fella we will have to agree to disagree. I know what I can see.
MC Prussian Posted 31 July 2017 Posted 31 July 2017 Can't we keep both and convert Ulloa into a centre-back instead? He usually spends a lot of time in our box, anyway. Just for the record, I think they both have something to offer, but I don't see them competing against each other, as they're two vastly different kettle of fish on the pitch.
Hanan96 Posted 1 August 2017 Author Posted 1 August 2017 19 hours ago, foxhateram said: They both have great qualities. I don't think we need to choose between the two. Although they both play a CF role, they are both very different. Ulloa seems to find better scoring positions than Slim, but Slim is better with ball at his feet. Ulloa wins more headers (defensively as well, useful for seeing out a game) but Slimani brings the ball down more effectively. At the end of the day they are both going to be bit part players, as they don't really suit our style of play. A plan B if you like. If it's a more defenseive game, I would prefer Ulloa to be a good outlet and cover at the back from set pieced. If it's an attacking one, then I would prefer Slimani who can get the ball down but also provide the strength to hold up the ball. If they're both happy to be ready to play their roles, then why isn't plausible to have both. They are both in a CF mould but are both V different in style of play. would you tell me how will a player who "find better scoring position" to create less chance percentage, create less shoting amount, and less shotting accuracy? Also, player who won more header got less aerial duel won? and this is comparing title winning season of ulloa vs slimani last season. compare ulloa last season and slimani , then it will be much worse
Hanan96 Posted 1 August 2017 Author Posted 1 August 2017 17 hours ago, ZeGuy said: I strongly disagree. Slim is actually very good at finding goal scoring position and absolutely blows Ulloa out the water in this aspect. The problem is the finishing (when not on his head). You don't bring a striker to defend, rating a forward based on his defensive flicks on, is something some of the FT members should really, really smash out of their heads. Ulloa is past his best and won't make it to the bench this season, even more so if we sign that Nacho man. He's not even part of the plan Z. If Slim stays, he has to go. what is nacho man? btw I'm slightly disagree. especially for team like leicester, its okay to rate striker base on their defense as well attack. that's why we love okazaki. 14 hours ago, MC Prussian said: Can't we keep both and convert Ulloa into a centre-back instead? He usually spends a lot of time in our box, anyway. Just for the record, I think they both have something to offer, but I don't see them competing against each other, as they're two vastly different kettle of fish on the pitch. both are target man. we can compare them I'm sure.
filthyfox Posted 5 August 2017 Posted 5 August 2017 On 27/07/2017 at 16:25, GaelicFox said: If we sell silami and Mahrez the Algerians will either declare war or give thanks We will be Fuchsed if they (or any other undeveloped nation) declare war.... We don't even have enough soldiers to call our defence force an army. I'm surprised this doesnt concern the politicians enough to bring back conscription.
filthyfox Posted 5 August 2017 Posted 5 August 2017 So... you don't want to be here any more Leo?.... here, have a nice shiny contract. RUDDERS OUT!
foxinsox Posted 5 August 2017 Posted 5 August 2017 On 31/07/2017 at 20:42, MC Prussian said: Can't we keep both and convert Ulloa into a centre-back instead? He usually spends a lot of time in our box, anyway. Just for the record, I think they both have something to offer, but I don't see them competing against each other, as they're two vastly different kettle of fish on the pitch. While I am sure that you jest, Leo is great at defending set pieces. Useful when defending a lead. Playing him as a CB is not completely ridiculous! Slim is the better player, but seems to have no relationship with any team member other than Mahrez. His interplay is poor, and I cannot see him working in our post Mahrez form.
Monsell1976 Posted 5 August 2017 Posted 5 August 2017 Does it really need explaining why slim stays and leo goes
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 August 2017 Posted 5 August 2017 37 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: Does it really need explaining why slim stays and leo goes I think it's obvious what we should do. Keep Leo and Slim and offload Vards and Kelechi. Give the ball to Big Wes at every opportunity to simply launch the long ball to the 'target man'. Play 4-4-2 and get the ball in to 'the big lad up front' as quick as possible. Imagine the 'goals with the head' we'd score. The crisp passing, tippy tappy Prem wouldn't know what had hit em! Yeah....the old fashioned British Way! (Imagine how funny it would be if we did and actually had some success...the pundits wouldn't know what to say) Get in!
Hanan96 Posted 6 August 2017 Author Posted 6 August 2017 On 8/5/2017 at 15:22, foxinsox said: While I am sure that you jest, Leo is great at defending set pieces. Useful when defending a lead. Playing him as a CB is not completely ridiculous! Slim is the better player, but seems to have no relationship with any team member other than Mahrez. His interplay is poor, and I cannot see him working in our post Mahrez form. well, what about bringing some fact like statistic? last time you were saying something, which doesn't really happen on the pitch. now you were unable to response and just looking for another words without prove. Leicester need a real player with a real quallity, not just an imaginary quality of player. On 8/5/2017 at 17:40, Col city fan said: I think it's obvious what we should do. Keep Leo and Slim and offload Vards and Kelechi. Give the ball to Big Wes at every opportunity to simply launch the long ball to the 'target man'. Play 4-4-2 and get the ball in to 'the big lad up front' as quick as possible. Imagine the 'goals with the head' we'd score. The crisp passing, tippy tappy Prem wouldn't know what had hit em! Yeah....the old fashioned British Way! (Imagine how funny it would be if we did and actually had some success...the pundits wouldn't know what to say) Get in! it seems that leicester were famous with its surprise. who know we might won with such strange way and made the pundits clueless once again
ZeGuy Posted 6 August 2017 Posted 6 August 2017 On 8/5/2017 at 10:22, foxinsox said: While I am sure that you jest, Leo is great at defending set pieces. Useful when defending a lead. Playing him as a CB is not completely ridiculous! Slim is the better player, but seems to have no relationship with any team member other than Mahrez. His interplay is poor, and I cannot see him working in our post Mahrez form. Are you in the know or did you pull that out of your magic hat? You should watch the matches for a change.
WigstonWanderer Posted 6 August 2017 Posted 6 August 2017 On 01/08/2017 at 17:52, Hanan96 said: would you tell me how will a player who "find better scoring position" to create less chance percentage, create less shoting amount, and less shotting accuracy? Also, player who won more header got less aerial duel won? and this is comparing title winning season of ulloa vs slimani last season. compare ulloa last season and slimani , then it will be much worse This is skewed due to use of per game stats. Better to use per 90 mins. Not necessarily sayings it's wrong, just exaggerated.
foxinsox Posted 6 August 2017 Posted 6 August 2017 5 hours ago, ZeGuy said: Are you in the know or did you pull that out of your magic hat? You should watch the matches for a change. I am a season ticket holder and very rarely miss a home match. It is my own opinion based on what I see with my own eyes.
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 6 August 2017 Posted 6 August 2017 slimani because at 30 million he has got a point to prove
brucey Posted 6 August 2017 Posted 6 August 2017 We are so greedy when it comes to stockpiling strikers, it's amazing 6 first team strikers, 3 of which are bloody good top 8 PL quality, 3 others high Championship level at least 6 U23s strikers, I've lost count now, we're just buying up every single promising non league striker
ZeGuy Posted 6 August 2017 Posted 6 August 2017 1 hour ago, foxinsox said: I am a season ticket holder and very rarely miss a home match. It is my own opinion based on what I see with my own eyes. Well most people here, including me, think that his link-up play is actually quite good, as well as his runs. his only real problem is his finish (with the feet). An opinion based on the games I've saw this season, which are all bar one or two. As for him being isolated in the dressing room is classifed under the category "baseless assumption". Unless you were in the dressing room. I read too much contradictory reports on that matter to take it seriously. What I do know though is that some people here really do not like him.
filthyfox Posted 6 August 2017 Posted 6 August 2017 1 hour ago, DatfoxesKid23 said: slimani because at 30 million he has got a point to prove He's already proven a point. ... that 30m won't buy you quality.
Milo Posted 6 August 2017 Posted 6 August 2017 Leo is a bit of a lump and has slowed down a bit (wasn't very quick to begin with). Was good, has had his time and will have to make do with bench warming and cameo's. Slim is a tiny bit more mobile and doesn't seem to need quite so many chances to make something happen. Never a £30m player. but that's not his fault. Neither brilliant, but Slim edges it.
Hanan96 Posted 9 August 2017 Author Posted 9 August 2017 On 8/7/2017 at 01:35, WigstonWanderer said: This is skewed due to use of per game stats. Better to use per 90 mins. Not necessarily sayings it's wrong, just exaggerated. what's the difference between per 90 mins and per match? I'm not that familiar with statistic. please explain to me On 8/7/2017 at 02:56, foxinsox said: I am a season ticket holder and very rarely miss a home match. It is my own opinion based on what I see with my own eyes. how can you made sure, its not biased? On 8/7/2017 at 04:15, ZeGuy said: Well most people here, including me, think that his link-up play is actually quite good, as well as his runs. his only real problem is his finish (with the feet). An opinion based on the games I've saw this season, which are all bar one or two. As for him being isolated in the dressing room is classifed under the category "baseless assumption". Unless you were in the dressing room. I read too much contradictory reports on that matter to take it seriously. What I do know though is that some people here really do not like him. interesting. so aside from economic reason, he got skill as well. how did his link up play and run were better than slim?
Gerard Posted 9 August 2017 Posted 9 August 2017 On 06/08/2017 at 19:35, WigstonWanderer said: This is skewed due to use of per game stats. Better to use per 90 mins. Not necessarily sayings it's wrong, just exaggerated. As soon as I seen Slimani had played 300 more minutes and 6 less games I didn't bother reading the rest when the metric was per game as it was obviously biased in favour of Slimani.
Gerard Posted 9 August 2017 Posted 9 August 2017 On 04/08/2017 at 07:59, Hanan96 said: so, its purely economic reason? Yes. I think most people would agree Slimani>Ulloa but considering neither will make the first XI when everyone is fit you have to consider the financial aspect. If we got a £25m+ offer for Slimani I think the sensible thing to do is sell and keep Ulloa as that big target man when we use that option.
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