Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Otis]

4 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Think about the people behind Brexit, trump, Putin, reform they're the same organisations and same funding.  Now they're doing this flags thing and dumb asses are falling for it.

Who are these organisations?

[Dr The Singh]

1 minute ago, Otis said:

Who are these organisations?

Aliens

[leicsmac]

Tangentially related to current discussion:

 

This will likely end up being the Chinese century - everyone else will just be living in it. And that will be because they're better at conceiving and applying long term plans than most other places.

[Otis]

13 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Tangentially related to current discussion:

 

This will likely end up being the Chinese century - everyone else will just be living in it. And that will be because they're better at conceiving and applying long term plans than most other places.

Yep. If they could sort their human rights issues out they'd be highly/higher respected country. 

 

Successive UK government's have avoided long-term infrastructure as they won't get the credit once completed, nuclear energy for example. 

Edited 20 August 2025 by Otis

[leicsmac]

Just now, Otis said:

Yep. If they could sort their human rights issues out they'd be highly/higher respected country. 

It's likely not going to matter either way in terms of their success level, but naturally.

[Muzzy_no7]

There should be 10x more St George’s and Union Jack flags around, more the merrier.

 

Need to normalise them again.

[Torquay Gunner]

2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

Why is that?

Because they usually are.

[Torquay Gunner]

2 hours ago, Otis said:

Snobbery 

I would say any snobbery was on their part. 

[Heathrow fox]

I think the English flag is a bit meh.The way it’s predominantly white with a bit of red.Its the sort of colour scheme a consistently crap football club from some middle of nowhere outpost in the midlands would wear.Think Lincoln City.

 

The Union Jack on the other hand is a beast of a flag.Such a clever design.I love red,white and blue together.The French tricolour a belter also

[CrazyKopCorner]

7 hours ago, Otis said:

It's almost like...  they don't know what the fxxx their doing. DJT.

It takes some doing to get stagflation a certain level of ineptitude. 

 

I called it. 

 

The worst chancellor in history - She is completely and utterly clueless &  economically illiterate - Economist at the Bank of England for 10 years my arse - Lying incompetent charlatan 

Edited 21 August 2025 by CrazyKopCorner

[Sly]

7 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

There should be 10x more St George’s and Union Jack flags around, more the merrier.

 

Need to normalise them again.

My unpopular opinion is flags should only be used by pirates 🏴‍☠️ 

 

Otherwise I find them largely pointless. 

 

To also add, they are also very annoying when it’s windy as they make loads of noise. 

Edited 21 August 2025 by Sly

[leicsmac]

7 hours ago, Otis said:

 

Successive UK government's have avoided long-term infrastructure as they won't get the credit once completed, nuclear energy for example. 

Which IMO represents a flaw both on the part of the governments and also on the people electing them. 

 

7 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

There should be 10x more St George’s and Union Jack flags around, more the merrier.

 

Need to normalise them again.

It's unfortunate that they have been attached to some rather...unsavoury activity in the past which has an effect on the association, because it would be nice to see more on particular occasions as is often seen in other places with their flags. 

 

2 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

It takes some doing to get stagflation a certain level of ineptitude. 

 

I called it. 

 

The worst chancellor in history - She is completely and utterly clueless &  economically illiterate - Economist at the Bank of England for 10 years my arse - Lying incompetent charlatan 

I get the feeling this level of animosity is somewhat personal...?

[Trav Le Bleu]

8 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Tangentially related to current discussion:

 

This will likely end up being the Chinese century - everyone else will just be living in it. And that will be because they're better at conceiving and enforcing long term plans than most other places.

Fixed

[Trav Le Bleu]

43 minutes ago, Sly said:

My unpopular opinion is flags should only be used by pirates 🏴‍☠️ 

 

Otherwise I find them largely pointless. 

 

To also add, they are also very annoying when it’s windy as they make loads of noise. 

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[leicsmac]

22 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Fixed

Ha, yes. 

 

Carrying out these long term projects requires at least a plurality of your populace to stay onside. Either you do the through building and establishing systemic trust regardless of who is in charge at any one time (like in the Scandics), or you do it through enforcement (like the Chinese).

 

The UK is doing neither one nor the other. 

[Dr The Singh]

9 hours ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Because they usually are.

They are usually are, Aliens?

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

They are usually are, Aliens?

Zoo Hypothesis taken to its logical conclusion!

[bovril]

It's interesting how flag dynamics have shifted over time. Look at England crowds up to the early 90s and it's mostly Union Jacks. It was that flag I think that was more associated with the far right, unionism and racism, especially anti-Irish racism. Englishness and the St George's cross was a bit more whimsical, nostalgic, vaguely Anglo-Catholic.

 

Now the England flag seems to be used more by the far right and the Union Jack is seen as more inclusive, which I suppose is a reflection of the slow unravelling of the UK post Thatcher and privatization, but also the reinvention of Britishness as inclusive and multi cultural along the lines of the USA.

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 minutes ago, bovril said:

It's interesting how flag dynamics have shifted over time. Look at England crowds up to the early 90s and it's mostly Union Jacks. It was that flag I think that was more associated with the far right, unionism and racism, especially anti-Irish racism. Englishness and the St George's cross was a bit more whimsical, nostalgic, vaguely Anglo-Catholic.

 

Now the England flag seems to be used more by the far right and the Union Jack is seen as more inclusive, which I suppose is a reflection of the slow unravelling of the UK post Thatcher and privatization, but also the reinvention of Britishness as inclusive and multi cultural along the lines of the USA.

The USA is inclusive and multi-cultural?

[bovril]

1 minute ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

The USA is inclusive and multi-cultural?

To be an 'American' is a proposition more than an ethnicity, and I think there has been an attempt to recreate that in Britain in recent decades. 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, bovril said:

To be an 'American' is a proposition more than an ethnicity, and I think there has been an attempt to recreate that in Britain in recent decades. 

So runs the theory, I'm not sure the practice is holding up there right now. 

[bovril]

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

So runs the theory, I'm not sure the practice is holding up there right now. 

Britain will retain the beliefs and practices we've picked up from the states long after the US empire has collapsed. Like the Romans learning from the Greeks and the Greeks continuing as Rome after the metropole was overrun by barbarians. 

[Sly]

This labour government is doing a worse job than the Tories before them. They’ll only do one term.

 

They’ll then be replaced by Reform, who again, will do a worse job than both labour and the Tories did. 
 

Hopefully we aren’t at civil war by this point, so we can add some stability back with a Tory government 

[Raj]

ALOT of the Palestine flags have come down around Evington.

I go running around there Thursdays and there was a road (Evington Valley Rd) near the main mosque which a couple of weeks ago had all Palestine flag bearing house, yesterday was only a couple.

Not sure if they had been told to take them down but good to see.

 

Just waiting for the mini roundabout to be painted red outside the mosque and jobs a good un!!

 

[leicsmac]

On 04/09/2019 at 12:31, leicsmac said:

This has moved from an idea to a firm belief for me in recent times: a supranational organisation with enforcing power beyond that of any nation state (basically the U.N. with actual teeth), focusing on issues that affect the entire world (such as environmental ones) is not only desirable but is actually critical for the long term, as the big nation states have proved and are proving, time and again, that they cannot be trusted to act in the best interest of anyone else short term or even themselves long term.

 

Six years and plenty of events later, is this still unpopular?